CDC is bringing Ebola patient to Emory University in Atlanta

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"The risk is not the doctor working with an Ebola patient, the risk is a doctor working with a regular patient not thinking of Ebola."
~Dr. Pierre Rollin

 

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Convincing patients to get treatment is the biggest task facing medical professionals trying to contain the Ebola outbreak in West Africa, a doctor in Sierra Leone says.

Dr Oliver Johnson also said persuading staff to work with him in the Ebola isolation unit in the capital Freetown was a challenge.

The virus which has claimed over 700 lives in four West African countries since February.

 

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[nobody's_hero]

I will say that I will be avoiding Atlanta for a while.

Oh but imagine the tourism.

"Come see our Ebola containment facility here in Georgia! Oh, you're just trying to get to Florida? Oh. Wait Florida is south of us, silly! Oh you're turning around to go through Alabama? Well. That seems out-of-the-way, but okay. But you're gonna regret you missed out on the monkey stew!"

 

[Suzanimal]

The two patients are Americans from who were in Africa to serve medical needs there. These patients were brought home by their sending agencies after one member of the team died. I do not see this as a government conspiracy, since the sending agencies also evacuated others who were there as part of the medical team.

As I understand it, part of the African problem is the resistance to follow protocol to prevent the spread of the disease. American protocol will be very strict. I'm sure none of those caring for these patients will want to risk contracting the disease.

I'm sure it will be.

 

[Suzanimal]

You and your family will be in my prayers too! .... I am not that close, Woodstock.

Thanks Miss Annie, I don't live in town anymore. I live in Loganville now. Remember this stupid commercial?

 

[DevilsAdvocate]

This is nothing like SARS or H1N1. The Ebola virus is a world-killer. It has as much as a 90% mortality rate, a 3 week incubation period, and vague, indistinguishable early onset symptoms. The virus has also allegedly been observed to be airborne over short distances.

There is no vaccine. There is no hope. The one thing limiting this virus right now is it's transmission rates. Let us all hope that it doesn't mutate into something worse.

 

[euphemia]

Convincing patients to get treatment is the biggest task facing medical professionals trying to contain the Ebola outbreak in West Africa, a doctor in Sierra Leone says.

This ^^^^^ and getting them to follow the protocol and allow health care workers to follow protocol for their own protection. From both a health care and a libertarian standpoint, I think it's time to pack up and leave. Deny visas from foreign nationals who have been to the area, and let them deal with this on their own, since they clearly think they know better.

We have friends who have worked in health care in Africa for many years. We plan to see them soon, and I think this will be one of the things we talk about.

 

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This ^^^^^ and getting them to follow the protocol and allow health care workers to follow protocol for their own protection. From both a health care and a libertarian standpoint, I think it's time to pack up and leave. Deny visas from foreign nationals who have been to the area, and let them deal with this on their own, since they clearly think they know better.

We have friends who have worked in health care in Africa for many years. We plan to see them soon, and I think this will be one of the things we talk about.

We'll from what I'm hearing it sounds like they are starting to do exactly what you suggest. A number of organizations are starting pack up and getting ready to evacuate West Africa since containment of the virus through common medical practices such as isolation for a number of reasons in Africa has failed there is not much else you can do.

I don't want to harp on this point, but this should honestly be a lesson for some on this message board, I understand the need to question the motives of government and be critical at times of health professionals, but under certain conditions you do have to trust that other humans have your best interest and the interests of the public in mind. Many in West Africa are so completely convinced driven from their fear of conspiracies that involve witchcraft, their government, malicious doctors wanting to experiment on them, and a whole host of other evil motives that it has gotten to the point where without putting in strict military martial-law style quarantines in place this is just going to get a lot worse for them. And that is assuming they can even put in place large scale quarantines which from the sound of it, it sounds like they don't even have the capability to do that.

Once the uneducated/uninformed in a hot zone make it so impossible for the medical professionals to do their work they have no other choice but to let the "wild fire burn out on its own" so to speak, because without the trust of the public all the medical concepts such as isolating the sick, so the total number of infected doesn't continue to skyrocket or exponentially grow, goes right out the window. Sometimes the human condition's default position of being driven by fear or mistrust, isn't the best approach to a problem that will feed on that fear only to cause more devastation in it's wake.

 

[pcosmar]

I don't want to harp on this point, but this should honestly be a lesson for some on this message board, I understand the need to question the motives of government and be critical at times of health professionals, but under certain conditions you do have to trust that other humans have your best interest in mind. Many in West Africa are so completely convinced driven from their fear of conspiracies that involve witchcraft, their government, malicious doctors wanting to experiment on them, and a whole host of other evil motives that it has gotten to the point where without putting in strict military martial-law style quarantines in place this is just going to get a lot worse for them.

When has there been any government in that area that was not totally corrupt?

In other words,,, Why would and conscious being in that part of the world have any reason to trust Government?

 

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When has there been any government in that area that was not totally corrupt?

In other words,,, Why would and conscious being in that part of the world have any reason to trust Government?

Right, so I'm assuming if you were from West Africa then and started to show signs of the flu you wouldn't seek medical attention for fear they will infect you with some deadly disease?

 

[Brian4Liberty]

"I can't predict the future". - Head of the CDC on FNS. The first words out of his mouth, and the only useful thing said by him.

That was on scary interview. We are screwed. Science and logic are not concerns to these politicians. This is about vanity, ego and politics. They are willing to import the disease because their isolation techniques are the best (and they are more than willing to test their equipment and procedures right here in the US). Travel bans on effected areas? You can't seal the US, and we have to be compassionate. And travel bans would effect the US economy and jobs. But they will put in sensible screening measures at some point.

That's the kind of stuff that is good to hear from the agency that is supposed to control the spread of disease.

 

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To help him/her?

or to weaponize it?

There is no good reason to transport a person with a contagious disease halfway around the world when there are facilities and treatments there.

it's called being an American. Because you are an American citizen, our government is willing to waste money and risk lives to show you they care.

 

[donnay]

it's called being an American. Because you are an American citizen, our government is willing to waste money and risk lives to show you they care.

I hope you were being extremely sarcastic.

 

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I hope you were being extremely sarcastic.

is it not a fact?

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Ok, now that was a sensible Doctor. Basically contradicted everything the head of the US CDC said this morning on FNS.

One thing she said is that it is hard to stop right now because it has spread to more urban areas. Good thing that doesn't apply to Atlanta.

 

[Ender]

This is nothing like SARS or H1N1. The Ebola virus is a world-killer. It has as much as a 90% mortality rate, a 3 week incubation period, and vague, indistinguishable early onset symptoms. The virus has also allegedly been observed to be airborne over short distances.

There is no vaccine. There is no hope. The one thing limiting this virus right now is it's transmission rates. Let us all hope that it doesn't mutate into something worse.

Bitter Kola kills ebola in humans; bleach also kills it- so everything needs to be kept as clean as possible using bleach.