Carly Fiorina surges to 22% and first-place nationally after debate win

This is the same Gravis poll that had Rand at 0.8% after the first debate, so this is a major improvement. Rand will be excited to learn he's more than doubled his support among the middle school demographic.
 
funny, another repeat of last time where the media is throwing new front runners up.. just happening slower than last time.. but its funny to see people on carly's facebook saying stuff like "You won my vote last night" what a fucking joke... all she did was talk and say a bunch of bs that people want to hear and she gets your vote??? that just proves how screwed we are..

its because americans watch too much television and movies and accept everything and I mean ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING at face value.

if this race was for picking the next person to be the lead role in a acting gig that plays the president, it would make 100% sense what is happening and why people choose the way they do. were so fucked lol
 
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Just now watching this debate.... FFS, is every debate from now on going to be in the "This candidate said something about that candidate, which one do you hate more" format?

It's not surprising Fiorina is in the front - she's the only aspiring politician I've ever heard say anything as strong against abortion. There are millions of people who aren't going to support anyone else from here on out, based on just that one statement of hers.
 
It's not surprising Fiorina is in the front - she's the only aspiring politician I've ever heard say anything as strong against abortion.

Fiorina wasn't as strongly anti-abortion-sounding back in 2010, when running for the U.S. Senate in blue California. She was clearly a 'three-exception' pro-lifer at the time, meaning she was okay with abortion for rape, incest and maternal endangerment.
 
The republican electorate is far more bandwagonish than they used to be it seems to me.
 
This is the same Gravis poll that had Rand at 0.8% after the first debate, so this is a major improvement. Rand will be excited to learn he's more than doubled his support among the middle school demographic.

Yeah, I was just thinking, if Trump attacks Rand's standing again then Rand can say, "I've doubled my support, but it seems that Carly has taken half of yours." :D
 
Fiorina wasn't as strongly anti-abortion-sounding back in 2010, when running for the U.S. Senate in blue California. She was clearly a 'three-exception' pro-lifer at the time, meaning she was okay with abortion for rape, incest and maternal endangerment.

She said she was in favor of an exception for the health of the mother, which is essentially the same as saying that you're pro choice. "The health of the mother" can mean anything. It can mean that a woman can get an abortion because she has a headache, or because she's depressed. It's meaningless for someone to claim that they're pro life if they support an exception for the life of the mother.
 
She said she was in favor of an exception for the health of the mother, which is essentially the same as saying that you're pro choice. "The health of the mother" can mean anything. It can mean that a woman can get an abortion because she has a headache, or because she's depressed. It's meaningless for someone to claim that they're pro life if they support an exception for the life of the mother.

you can't be pro-life if you would let the mother die. if there are twins and both would die, that would be stupid. there are always exceptions. you have a right to kill someone who invades your home. no one will get elected with a no exception policy on abortion.
 
you can't be pro-life if you would let the mother die. if there are twins and both would die, that would be stupid. there are always exceptions. you have a right to kill someone who invades your home. no one will get elected with a no exception policy on abortion.

Did you not read anything that I wrote? I said that Fiorina is on record as supporting an exception for "the health of the mother." That's entirely different from supporting an exception for the life of the mother.
 
From not eligible for the CNN/Reagan Library debate
(Carly was about a 2.5 % composite from polling and was 11th place, Rand was less than a point behind Huck and Rubio at a composite for Rand of 4.7%)
to the new front runner in the GOP horserace . . .
oh yeah, I forgot her Secret Service code name will be Secretariat too.
 
Keep in mind that this is how the press release for this poll and all polls by this outfit begins:

One America News Network, “OAN”, a credible source for 24/7 national and international news, announces its national post-debate poll​

Sure.
 
I've seen this one before - everyone who doesn't have the last name of "Paul" surges, and then the establishment man steps forward to win the nomination.

Sorry to give the ending away.
 
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