California: Judge orders homeschoolers into government education

[Tdcci]

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showpost.php?p=1322145&postcount=176

The word "gas" does not appear anywhere in that post, and I have rejected that bait in a post I am now linking to (for the second time)

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showpost.php?p=1322285&postcount=221

 

[Deborah K]

Originally Posted by angelatc
You didn't see the post about hoping all the Christians would be gassed?

No. Where is it?

Does it matter? Clearly this person feels victimized by Christianity. No reason to get your dander up. There is no logic to be found in victimhood. I say therapy is in order.

 

[Tdcci]

You say you agree with the form of government our founders left us. If you really did, you would understand that the power was to remain in the hands of the people. NOT the government.

The government has limited function, to protect us from pirates and criminals, and bring them to justice. Proposing this be extended to protecting us from religious extremists is not radical.

 

[danberkeley]

lol at all you guys arguing with Tdcci. Tdcci is obviously a joke account. I mean how can you seriously argue with one who rants on about teaching tolerance then turn right around and call Christian parents, unaccountable tyrannies...

I like it. Tdcci, aka the octopus, makes me laugh and feel btter about myself. What wrong with that?

 

[LibertyEagle]

Quote:

Originally Posted by angelatc
Socialist policies sent the gays to the ovens in Germany.

No, they didn't. The Government in Nazi Germany did what the churches are doing now, pitting human beings against one another by dividing them into groups ("gays, "jews", "gypsies"). The government could have only done this with the consent of the people. If children are taught from a young age that this is wrong, it cannot happen.

Quote:

Originally Posted by angelatc
Apparently it's the Christians that will suffer that fate with the New World Order, eh?

One can only dream.

Tdcci, are you saying that your dream is that Christians will suffer the same fate as the Jews in Germany? (i.e. sent to the ovens)

 

[LibertyEagle]

The government has limited function, to protect us from pirates and criminals, and bring them to justice. Proposing this be extended to protecting us from religious extremists is not radical.

Oh yes it is.

 

[danberkeley]

Hospitals can only operate in the U.S. with the government, because they use the land that belongs to the people. As a registered business, they must comply with the laws of the U.S. What you say would only be true if the U.S. were a completely libertarian country, which it is not.

This is why i called you a Marxist.

 

[Tdcci]

Tdcci, are you saying that your dream is that Christians will be gassed?

No. See: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showpost.php?p=1322216&postcount=198

 

[Tdcci]

This is why i called you a Marxist.

That's not my personal philosophy, it's how businesses in the United States operate, they must comply with business laws. This was in response to a post stating businesses should not accept gay marriage recognized by the state because they are private institutions.

 

[angelatc]

The word "gas" does not appear anywhere in that post, and I have rejected that bait in a post I am now linking to (for the second time)

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showpost.php?p=1322285&postcount=221

So you can hope that the New World Order will cremate all the Christians, just not kill them first? That's pretty sadistic, baking people alive and all....

You're pretty funny. The Christians would send you to mental rehab to "cure" homosexuality, while you'd send the Christians to mental rehab to "cure" faith.

The Christians allegedly want to teach their children to hate you, while you want to teach their own children to hate them. Good luck with that.

 

[jmdrake]

You have frickin' got to be kidding me? Why in hell are you for Ron Paul? Or are you? This is the most totalitarian bunch of horseshit that I think I have ever read on this board. Who in hell do you think you are to dictate to others their faith? From what you have written, you surely do not believe in our Founding Fathers and the Republic that they left us. Freedom of religion was a very important aspect of the founding of our country.

You are sounding very much like a Marxist. Are you?

She's the same one that started a thread claiming that freedom to practice religion as you see fit should be stripped from the constitution.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=124637

Threads like that is what I was referring to in a certain subforum when I asked why should SOME potentially offensive material be regulated to the RPF "free speech zone" while other more offensive and more anti Paul positions get free reign. Oh I know the owners and the moderators have the "private property rights" to do what they want, but that doesn't mean it makes sense.

Regards,

John M. Drake

 

[jmdrake]

State Atheism is just a nicer way of implementing seperation of church and state. From the link, "State atheism is the official rejection of religion in all forms by a government in favor of atheism." The state is atheist, which is a good thing, otherwise you get disasters like Iran or Saudi Arabia.

Or you get wonderful free countries like the United States of America. (Unless you secretly wish the U.S.A. was more like the U.S.S.R. in this regards.)

Regards,

John M. Drake

 

[Tdcci]

So iyou can hope that the New World Order will cremate all the Christians, just not kill them first? That's pretty sadistic, baking people alive and all....

Stop it with the strawmen.

You're pretty funny. The Christians would send you to mental rehab to "cure" homosexuality, while you'd send the Christians to mental rehab to "cyre" faith.

Yeah just how some people use guns to "kill" people of one ethnicity and others use guns to "maintain" the peace in an unstable country. They're just tools that can be used for good and evil.

The Christians allegedly want to teach their children to hate you, while you want to teach their own children to hate them. Good luck with that.

Ideally, they would try to convert their parents.

 

[Tdcci]

Or you get wonderful free countries like the United States of America.

If there wasn't an explicit provision in the Constitution preventing the U.S.A adopting an official religion there is no doubt in my mind that an official religion would be established. This country is not free because of religion.

 

[jmdrake]

The word "gas" does not appear anywhere in that post, and I have rejected that bait in a post I am now linking to (for the second time)

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showpost.php?p=1322285&postcount=221

But the word "oven" does appear.

Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
Socialist policies sent the gays to the ovens in Germany.

No, they didn't. The Government in Nazi Germany did what the churches are doing now, pitting human beings against one another by dividing them into groups ("gays, "jews", "gypsies"). The government could have only done this with the consent of the people. If children are taught from a young age that this is wrong, it cannot happen.

Quote:
Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
Apparently it's the Christians that will suffer that fate with the New World Order, eh?

One can only dream.

Recap: Angelatc talks about gays being sent to the "ovens". (They were sent to the ovens after being gassed.) He said Christians will suffer that fate. You said "one can only dream".

Now feel free to continue with your mindless dribble.

Regards,

John M. Drake

 

[danberkeley]

It's more effective when people are grouped together. The london train bombings happened at a place of public transport, not on a road because it's more effective. Does that mean public transport is a bad thing? No!

When was the last time you saw a bombing at a local sporting event? Let say an
NFL footbal game or a MLB game, or NHL, or soccer. What about the mostly
publicly run and sponsored olympic games? Oh yeah, the Olympic game in 1996
were bombed. JFK was murdered on a public road although he had local, state,
and federal police protecting him. Oh yeah, and the guy who shot JFK was in a
PUBLIC schoolbook depository.

 

[jmdrake]

If there wasn't an explicit provision in the Constitution preventing the U.S.A adopting an official religion there is no doubt in my mind that an official religion would be established. This country is not free because of religion.

The country is free because it establishes both the freedom of religion (saves us from atheist dictatorship) and because of the non establishment of religion (saves from theocracy.) Both freedoms are explicitly needed if Christians and gays are to be saved from the "ovens".

Regards,

John M. Drake

 

[Tdcci]

Recap: Angelatc talks about gays being sent to the "ovens". (They were sent to the ovens after being gassed.) He said Christians will suffer that fate. You said "one can only dream".

Because the wording there was very ambiguous on both sides, I made another post, which I keep pointing to where I clarified my position. When I said, "one can only dream" I meant (as you can see in my explanation) that only the religious could speak so lightly of violence and death (also a reference to Angelatc saying before that words cannot hurt, "merely offend") and I would not wish that upon anyone, that I wanted the Christians to be treated for their illness.

 

[angelatc]

It's more effective when people are grouped together.

Hey! So are Nazi showers and public schools!

 

[Tdcci]

freedom of religion (saves us from atheist dictatorship)

Atheist just means no belief in god, any dictator that does not believe in god runs an "atheist dictatorship"-- would you turn that around and say a dictator with belief would turn his country into a "theocraic dictatorship"? No, because it's ludicrous. There is no governing belief system for atheists, it is not a religion.