CA - White woman calls cops on black family BBQing in a "prohibited area"

[Anti Federalist]

So how do you suggest she be "untrained?" Serious question.

Maybe when she gets swatted?

Honest question...FFS, I try, but, outside of our tiny little band of merry refuseniks, nobody gives a shit.

 

[specsaregood]

So how do you suggest she be "untrained?" Serious question.

Dunno if she can be, she probably agrees with the law. It would be a fundamental difference of opinion.

But, if I'm breaking the law. I'm not gonna be surprised if somebody calls em on me, in fact I fully expect it. I've broken many laws, many times and everytime I have weighed the pros/cons if it is worth the risk/hassle.

 

[TheTexan]

I've broken many laws, many times

Like what? Be specific.

 

[dannno]

She could have called the non-emergency line or the code enforcer whatever department. But maybe time was of the essence?

I'd bet $100 she didn't call 911. They always say in the article "they called the police" or "they called 911" or something and it always becomes an issue that they called an emergency line, then it always turns out they called the non-emergency police line.

 

[dannno]

In before the Stormfront troops claim this was all justified as a way to crackdown on skittles.

The point is that once again, this story has NOTHING to do with "white people" calling the police on "black people" and everything to do with somebody calling the cops on someone else for breaking the rules or the law. We can talk about the second half of that sentence, but you want to keep roping the first half in.

This lady would have called the cops on a white family bbqing there too because it was against the law, but it wouldn't have made national headlines.. Just because a white person calls the cops on a black person for breaking the law doesn't make them racist.

 

[jmdrake]

The point is that once again, this story has NOTHING to do with "white people" calling the police on "black people" and everything to do with somebody calling the cops on someone else for breaking the rules or the law. We can talk about the second half of that sentence, but you want to keep roping the first half in.

This lady would have called the cops on a white family bbqing there too because it was against the law, but it wouldn't have made national headlines.. Just because a white person calls the cops on a black person for breaking the law doesn't make them racist.

Even when the person the police have been called on haven't broken any rules or laws, as in the case of the Yale student who was taking a nap in the common area of the dorm she lived at, some folks here feel the need to defend calling the cops. Why is that?

 

[dean.engelhardt]

I watch most of the 20 minute video and have to commend the family on their patience. Her calling the police and telling the family about the parks rules seem OK to me, but she should have left them alone after that. Threats of trespass and jail were way out of line. Most folks acting like that get their ass kicked.

Side note: Had to chuckle at the Mayor candidate says people should not call the police because of all the bad things that could happen.

 

[dannno]

Even when the person the police have been called on haven't broken any rules or laws, as in the case of the Yale student who was taking a nap in the common area of the dorm she lived at, some folks here feel the need to defend calling the cops. Why is that?

Actually I posted the rules of the dorm, did you fail to read that post? Common areas are for (SPECIFIC PURPOSES LISTED) - sleeping is not on the list. Specifically, guests who stay at the dorm cannot sleep in the common area. They may leave some room for people studying who fall asleep while studying accidentally, but sleeping is not listed as an activity that takes place in the common areas and they said that common areas can only be used for specific purposes. The girl claims she was writing a paper. Great, then she should have woken up and went back to her room. Students are always writing papers. You can't just sleep in the common areas all the time. That is definitely against the rules.

So you are wrong about that, sleeping in the common area is not necessarily allowed. But hey, let's drag some more debates that you were wrong about into this thread. For example, if a white person THINKS something is against the rules, and they try to enforce those rules against a black person, it couldn't be because they didn't know the rules well or they thought those were the rules, it must be because they are racist according to you.. A white person being wrong about the rules = racism. How the fuck does your brain come up with that bullshit? The point is, that chick would have called the cops if a shady white lady was sleeping in the common area too. What does this have to do with race??

 

[enhanced_deficit]

Lately every few days there is a news headline in google news about "White person calling cops on a black person for XYZ reason".

This can happen naturally but the sustained frequency of such news is bit puzzling.

Are these staged/fakenews?

Or are these real news due to changed racially charged atmosphere in America/media following Trump's coming to White House?


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[juleswin]

Just going to add that just because its a govt regulation doesn't mean that there isn't a valid reason behind it. In my private apt building, it is against the rules to BBQ on the balcony because it is made of wood. Very valid and reasonable rule implemented to prevent apt fires.

 

[jmdrake]

Actually I posted the rules of the dorm, did you fail to read that post?

I read it. But unlike you I understood the rules especially as applied. The person the police were called on was not a guest. She was a student.

Common areas are for (SPECIFIC PURPOSES LISTED) - sleeping is not on the list. Specifically, guests who stay at the dorm cannot sleep in the common area.

She wasn't a guest. She was a student. And specifically it was her dorm.

They may leave some room for people studying who fall asleep while studying accidentally, but sleeping is not listed as an activity that takes place in the common areas and they said that common areas can only be used for specific purposes. The girl claims she was writing a paper. Great, then she should have woken up and went back to her room. Students are always writing papers. You can't just sleep in the common areas all the time. That is definitely against the rules.

Nope. Not all against the rules. It was her dorm's common area. She wasn't a guest. She knew that. The police knew that. Yale university knew that. Only you and the stupid lady that called the cops didn't know that.

 

[jmdrake]

[MENTION=10908]dannno[/MENTION] Here is the story from Fox News, just in case you think CNN is making the facts up.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/05/09/police-called-on-black-student-sleeping-in-her-yale-dorm.html
Lynn Cooley, the dean of Yale's graduate school of arts and sciences, sent an email to graduate students Tuesday telling them that Siyonbola had every right to be in the building and inviting them to share their concerns about the incident.

So...why do you keep arguing a "fact" that is in fact not true?

 

[dannno]

I read it. But unlike you I understood the rules especially as applied. The person the police were called on was not a guest. She was a student.



She wasn't a guest. She was a student. And specifically it was her dorm.



Nope. Not all against the rules. It was her dorm's common area. She wasn't a guest. She knew that. The police knew that. Yale university knew that. Only you and the stupid lady that called the cops didn't know that.

What the fuck is wrong with your reading comprehension? Why do you make me repeat shit like 50 times?

I know she wasn't a guest, but the rules say common areas are for (specific purposes listed) - Sleeping is not a specific purpose that was listed.

If a student started sleeping in the common area on a regular basis, they would be breaking the rules and the dorms would ask them to stop, because it is against the rules.. If they fell asleep accidentally studying once in a while it likely wouldn't be a problem.

If you look up other colleges and Universities, it is very common for them to say that sleeping is not allowed in common areas - which gets back to my next point - if a white person gets the rules wrong, it doesn't make them racist. You are making a non-argument. Even if sleeping was allowed in that common area, if the girl thought it was against the rules and she calls the cops that doesn't make her racist. She would have called the cops if there was a shady white person sleeping in the common area too.

The point is this is all being made about race, but NONE of the people calling the cops are racist. They are just calling the cops because rules are being broken and they fear for their safety of enforcing them themselves.

 

[dannno]

@dannno Here is the story from Fox News, just in case you think CNN is making the facts up.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/05/09/police-called-on-black-student-sleeping-in-her-yale-dorm.html
Lynn Cooley, the dean of Yale's graduate school of arts and sciences, sent an email to graduate students Tuesday telling them that Siyonbola had every right to be in the building and inviting them to share their concerns about the incident.

So...why do you keep arguing a "fact" that is in fact not true?

Again.. reading COMPREHENSION is very important..

She had a right to be in the building, but she was technically breaking the rules by sleeping in the common area - and now Lynn Cooley is trying to stop the low IQ bullshit progressive hammer from coming down on her and the University by saying a bunch of appeasing bullshit like Starbucks did.

 

[jmdrake]

What the $#@! is wrong with your reading comprehension? Why do you make me repeat $#@! like 50 times?

I know she wasn't a guest, but the rules say common areas are for (specific purposes listed) - Sleeping is not a specific purpose that was listed.

If a student started sleeping in the common area on a regular basis, they would be breaking the rules and the dorms would ask them to stop, because it is against the rules.. If they fell asleep accidentally studying once in a while it likely wouldn't be a problem.

If you look up other colleges and Universities, it is very common for them to say that sleeping is not allowed in common areas - which gets back to my next point - if a white person gets the rules wrong, it doesn't make them racist. You are making a non-argument. Even if sleeping was allowed in that common area, if the girl thought it was against the rules and she calls the cops that doesn't make her racist. She would have called the cops if there was a shady white person sleeping in the common area too.

The point is this is all being made about race, but NONE of the people calling the cops are racist. They are just calling the cops because rules are being broken and they fear for their safety of enforcing them themselves.

Dannno you are on drugs.

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The guidelines do not say that sleeping in common areas is allowed and the rules specify what IS allowed - and guests are specifically not allowed to sleep in common areas:

https://housing.yale.edu/sites/default/files/files/ResidentialHandbook17-18.pdf

The thing is, if you had guests the student could sleep in the common area and the guest could sleep in their bed, but to me that is just as burdensome on the common area and I believe the rules would be enforced in that case.

Many other schools do specify that sleeping is not allowed in the common area in dorms.

But that is all irrelevant to my argument. What is relevant is the fact that she would have done the same thing if some shady white lady was sleeping in there. [/FONT]

So in the other thread you claimed that the issue was that a guest cannot sleep in the common area and now you claim that it doesn't matter whether or not she was a guest.

From the rulebook link you posted:

Guests in Dormitories
You may have a guest stay with you for a 3-day, 2-night period occasionally.
All guests are to sleep in student rooms, not in common rooms or any other
space outside of the student’s room. Keys are not issued to guests.
You must register your guest with the Housing Office. Please email
[email protected] including your name, your room number and building,
as well as the name of your guest and the dates of their stay. Failure to
register your guests or complaints against a guest can result in loss of guest
privileges. Guests should conduct themselves in a manner that is respectful
to the other residents. It is your responsibility to let your guest know about
the campus regulations and housing expectations. Guests should not be left
in student rooms and buildings when their hosts are not with them.

So only guests are barred, by the rulebook, from sleeping in the common area.

 

[jmdrake]

Again.. reading COMPREHENSION is very important..

Except you lack the ability to read your own posts.

 

[dannno]

Dannno you are on drugs.



So in the other thread you claimed that the issue was that a guest cannot sleep in the common area and now you claim that it doesn't matter whether or not she was a guest.

From the rulebook link you posted:

Guests in Dormitories
You may have a guest stay with you for a 3-day, 2-night period occasionally.
All guests are to sleep in student rooms, not in common rooms or any other
space outside of the student’s room. Keys are not issued to guests.
You must register your guest with the Housing Office. Please email
[email protected] including your name, your room number and building,
as well as the name of your guest and the dates of their stay. Failure to
register your guests or complaints against a guest can result in loss of guest
privileges. Guests should conduct themselves in a manner that is respectful
to the other residents. It is your responsibility to let your guest know about
the campus regulations and housing expectations. Guests should not be left
in student rooms and buildings when their hosts are not with them.

So only guests are barred, by the rulebook, from sleeping in the common area.

You are purposely obfuscating my posts again, I'm terminating discourse this is just going to turn into another 80 page pile of shit where you don't address anything I say.

The part of the text you made large for some reason was me explaining why they have rules against non-guests sleeping in the common area as well, although less specific, because they could have guests sleep in their bed and then go take the common area..

But the point is, the rules state that only specific activities may take place in the common area, and sleeping is not on that list, therefore it is against the rules.

 

[dannno]

Except you lack the ability to read your own posts.

Go to Yale, get a dorm room and instead of sleeping in your room, try sleeping in the common area every night and report back, let me know how that goes. Better yet, have one of your white friends try that and see how it goes. I guarantee it will end with the same outcome, they will tell you both to stop.

You are literally so full of shit it seems to me like you are just here trolling.

 

[jmdrake]

You are purposely obfuscating my posts again, I'm terminating discourse this is just going to turn into another 80 page pile of $#@! where you don't address anything I say.

The part of the text you made large for some reason was me explaining why they have rules against non-guests sleeping in the common area as well, although less specific, because they could have guests sleep in their bed and then go take the common area..

But the point is, the rules state that only specific activities may take place in the common area, and sleeping is not on that list, therefore it is against the rules.

No. You are straight up lying. I wish I could say I was surprised.

 

[jmdrake]

Go to Yale, get a dorm room and instead of sleeping in your room, try sleeping in the common area every night and report back, let me know how that goes. Better yet, have one of your white friends try that and see how it goes. I guarantee it will end with the same outcome, they will tell you both to stop.

In that case they would be in danger of a lawsuit especially considering the fact that the dean of Yale's graduate school has stated that the black student who was sleeping in the common area was in the right.

You are literally so full of $#@! it seems to me like you are just here trolling.

You just got busted with lying (again) and you want to claim I am full of it? Seriously?