BREAKING: Ron Paul OFFICIAL STATEMENT on DELEGATE STRATEGY

[Carlybee]

If we were to somehow change their party platform, what does that change? Nothing! They ignore their own rules, they ignore the constitution, etc. Some new words on paper doesn't change a thing.

When we look back 4 more years from now, we will OWN the GOP. Our job has not changed, keep getting involved, keep promoting liberty candidates, keep focused on the Constitution and keep out numbering the old guard statists in the Republican party itself. This can't be a R3VOLUTION of one man. When neocons spout off about wanting Paulbots to go away finally, they will find that we will never stop. In the phrase ala Terminator that often goes through my head...

Listen, and understand. Those Paulbots are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They doesn't feel pity... or remorse... or fear... and they absolutely will not stop, EVER, until they are dead.

It cant be a revolution when you have to play by the rules of people who only apply the rules to themselves and who get away with cheating, lying, and marginalizing. Assuming one could change the party one runs the risk of becoming what they stood against in the first place. When i see Rand Paul kowtowing to theocrats it doesnt inspire anything resembling change to me but maybe thats just my own distaste at having to register as a Republican when I despise most things about them. Ron Paul will always be a hero to me and I do pray he has had some impact.

 

[BenMuldowney]

And I wouldn't argue with you if that's what you want to do. But I'm not a republican. I only registered as such because Ron Paul was running for president again. The grassroots kept telling me we were winning, but getting delegate slots bound to other candidates is not winning. If you guys feel like you will make a meaningful impact on the republican party, go for it. But I will be spending my energy in what I feel are more useful ways.

we need a Patriot Party.

 

[bcreps85]

Nothing has changed. We are no more or less likely to win than we were yesterday. The campaign is dedicating funds to focus on gaining delegates, which we need to have any chance at winning or shaping the platform. Benton specifically states that Romney is only 200 delegates from having it "wrapped up", which we know is not entirely true in the first place. Secondly, Benn Swan has brought up some interesting points...are bound delegates really bound? Who knows. We'll find out if we have the numbers to.

The campaign is doing what they can to maximize delegates. It's up to those delegates to do whatever they can at the convention though.

 

[jene277]

I have to admit that this is the first time I have felt let down by the campaign, I usually try to see the glass half full. With that said, I'm a little surprised to see the grassroots rolling over and giving up. We have fought too hard to give up, and I still believe we can amass enough delegates to overturn the nomination in Tampa, with or without the campaign's consent. I find it hard to believe that Romney TRULY has as many delegates as being let on.

Maybe I'm just being naive and idealistic.

 

[BenMuldowney]

Nothing has changed. We are no more or less likely to win than we were yesterday. The campaign is dedicating funds to focus on gaining delegates, which we need to have any chance at winning or shaping the platform. Benton specifically states that Romney is only 200 delegates from having it "wrapped up", which we know is not entirely true in the first place. Secondly, Benn Swan has brought up some interesting points...are bound delegates really bound? Who knows. We'll find out if we have the numbers to.

The campaign is doing what they can to maximize delegates. It's up to those delegates to do whatever they can at the convention though.

so benton telling us we can't win the nomination hasn't hurt us? and fyi: delegates in "bound states" are bound by state law. rogue votes will be overturned.

 

[Liberty74]

I'm sorry but I don't call this winning.

When was the last time the platform made a hell of beans about anything. It might matter emotionally to some but the politicians completely ignore it. Platforms are a front IMO just like the two party system is for the elites.

Again, when was the platform seriously followed?

This just verifies to me that the Indy route was the best option for the movement and the country as a whole.

 

[pawlpawl]

Fellow patriots! I qill be starting PizzaPAC, a new superPAC devoted to feeding hungry patriots at a convention near you!

All jokes aside...

The email was deffinately a morale killer, BUT the message remains the same. We as voters choose the ending to this story. It is very possible this email was meant to keep us from getting our hopes up if we eventually lose this election.

We need to keep doing our thing, fight our fight. Read up on the rules of order for state conventions, work together and communicate with people who have been through the convention process and get educated.

We need to fight our fight, we can worry about 2016 when it gets here. Most of us have given up time, money, sweat, and tears for this campaign. Do not let this email shake you...

Now this message is for Dr.Paul

Get your suit ready, hit a few bike rides while you can, cause come August you are going to be a very busy man.


Ron Paul or Bust

 

[Darguth]

Hrm, I'm disheartened to hear the campaign claiming they cannot still win the nomination. While obviously a long shot already this seems to indicate they will not be fighting with tooth and claw to have our earned delegates unbind or abstain. Such maneuvers were the only real chance left :/

I don't need the nomination to have an outcome I consider to be a win, but still...

 

[walt]

Jesse - You're fired! (Donald Trump voice)

We don't have a future without major budget changes in this country in 2013. I'm not interested in creating lifetime employment fro Jesse Benton. I'm interested in living in a prosperous, debt free country.

 

[Liberty74]

so benton telling us we can't win the nomination hasn't hurt us? and fyi: delegates in "bound states" are bound by state law. rogue votes will be overturned.

Unfortunately many on RPF rather believe Swann's gossip than reality. Bound delegates are legally obligated to vote for a particular candidate by states' laws people. The campaign admitted this today because it is the truth.

The sad part is many will continue to believe bound delegates can vote for whoever they want.

 

[BestVirginia]

I'm sorry but I don't call this winning.

When was the last time the platform made a hell of beans about anything. It might matter emotionally to some but the politicians completely ignore it. Platforms are a front IMO just like the two party system is for the elites.

Again, when was the platform seriously followed?

This just verifies to me that the Indy route was the best option for the movement and the country as a whole.

I doubt most people even know they have a platform, whatever that is anyway. When this criminal, cowardly party can't be bothered to follow the Constitution, who in their right mind would expect them to follow their own rules??

 

[newbitech]

I have to admit that this is the first time I have felt let down by the campaign, I usually try to see the glass half full. With that said, I'm a little surprised to see the grassroots rolling over and giving up. We have fought too hard to give up, and I still believe we can amass enough delegates to overturn the nomination in Tampa, with or without the campaign's consent. I find it hard to believe that Romney TRULY has as many delegates as being let on.

Maybe I'm just being naive and idealistic.

Romney is more popular among republican voters than Paul. That is why Romney will be the nominee. The grassroots is not giving up, rather growing up. These are the growing pains.

 

[BenMuldowney]

Romney is more popular among republican voters than Paul. That is why Romney will be the nominee. The grassroots is not giving up, rather growing up. These are the growing pains.

bull shit.. romney won because he is infested with goldman sachs. they own him and they own the minds of our neighbors that claim to be conservatives.

 

[bcreps85]

so benton telling us we can't win the nomination hasn't hurt us? and fyi: delegates in "bound states" are bound by state law. rogue votes will be overturned.

Yet Ben has pointed out the RNC stating the exact opposite and pointed out the fact that in this last election a "bound delegate" was allowed to vote for someone other than who he was bound to vote for with the full blessing of the GOP and a statement saying that no one can truly be bound to one candidate and they were free to vote their conscience.

Romney is nowhere near the required amount of delegates last I checked.

 

[jhk07]

Benton just told our delegates to stay home. Save your hard earned money. This, just days after they figure out bound is not really BOUND. Ron will be lucky to even be nominated now. I think they pussed out and did not want to stir up the pot. I'm pissed.

 

[tbone717]

Hrm, I'm disheartened to hear the campaign claiming they cannot still win the nomination. While obviously a long shot already this seems to indicate they will not be fighting with tooth and claw to have our earned delegates unbind or abstain. Such maneuvers were the only real chance left

Unbinding would have to be done at the RNC, not a the state level. IIRC it would require a 2/3 vote from the floor. That is 1509 votes. Benton said that Paul will have several hundred of his own and several hundred bound to others - so 500-600 people - that isn't enough to unbind all and they realize that.

Same thing with the abstaining. While in 1976 abstaining was a consideration, many state rules are different than they were 36 years ago, so abstaining might not be an option depending on the wording of the state rules. Nonetheless, even if there was the ability to abstain, they just don't have the numbers to have a effect.

But on the bright side, we have grown in numbers over 2008, and if we continue to stay committed to the long term plan, we will grow more.

 

[Emerick]

Jesse Benton, the most stupid man on Earth!

 

[mport1]

I'm sorry but I don't call this winning.

When was the last time the platform made a hell of beans about anything. It might matter emotionally to some but the politicians completely ignore it. Platforms are a front IMO just like the two party system is for the elites.

Again, when was the platform seriously followed?

This just verifies to me that the Indy route was the best option for the movement and the country as a whole.

I agree with everything except the last part. Ron Paul would have gotten even less coverage running as a Libertarian or Independent.

I just wish they would stop with this "changing the platform b.s." The GOP platform is meaningless! Putting restrictions on the growth of government down on paper does nothing to stop the growing tyranny, just like the Constitution has does nothing to prevent where we are at today.

 

[tbone717]

Yet Ben has pointed out the RNC stating the exact opposite and pointed out the fact that in this last election a "bound delegate" was allowed to vote for someone other than who he was bound to vote for with the full blessing of the GOP and a statement saying that no one can truly be bound to one candidate and they were free to vote their conscience.

Romney is nowhere near the required amount of delegates last I checked.

The 2008 Utah delegate in question was bound to Romney, but due to the fact that Romney withdrew was unbound. Nonetheless, the delegate could still vote for Romney if he chose to. The same situation faces delegates in GA this year for example. Even though they are bound to Newt, they will be unbound (in all likelihood) and can either vote for Newt or another candidate of their choosing.

 

[seraphson]

Yes Paul can't win the nomination outright but what about when we get a second go around of voting and many bound delegates become unbound?