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[Expatriate]

I wasn't dishonest. Not in the least. You jumped the shark.

Pcosmar is never going to be as good of a poster again as he once was?

 

[thoughtomator]

When exactly did WW2 start, and according to who's version of history?
Has WW3 already started?
Anyone know where to find the Hope For America?

How many sides did World War 2 really have and did it ever actually end?

 

[FrankRep]

I do agree with you, however, that our own country was infiltrated long ago. A variety of people testified to that fact many years ago. Government, media, schools, churches...

link?

These three books will lay the groundwork for understanding the big picture.




None Dare Call It Conspiracy
- Gary Allen, 1971




The Shadows of Power: The Council on Foreign Relations and the American Decline
- James Perloff, 1976

Does America have a hidden oligarchy? Is U.S. foreign policy run by a closed shop? What is the CFR (Council on Foreign Relations)? It began in 1921 as a front organization for J.P. Morgan and Company. By World War II it had acquired unrivaled influence on American foreign policy. Hundreds of U.S. government administrators and diplomats have been drawn from its ranks - regardless of which party has occupied the White House. But what does the Council on Foreign Relations stand for? Why do the major media avoid discussing it? What has been its impact on America's past - and what is it planning for the future? (2011ed, 273pp, pb)​

The Naked Capitalist
- Cleon Skousen, 1972

A Review and Commentary on Dr. Carroll Quigley's book: Tragedy and Hope - A History of the World in Our Time.​

 

[pcosmar]

And no, I don't agree with you that the Russian government is all peachy-keen. ..

I at no time ever said nor inferred that the Russian Government was "peachy-keen". or good,,or cool or even OK.

I never said that.

You disappoint me. and that pisses me off. I am the Ex Con. I was a thief hell,I was a lot of things.
I ain't that blatantly dishonest.

 

[TheTexan]

I wasn't dishonest. Not in the least.

You did kind of strawman his argument.

 

[LibertyEagle]

I at no time ever said nor inferred that the Russian Government was "peachy-keen". or good,,or cool or even OK.

I never said that.

I never said you said it. It was my interpretation of what you were saying. I wasn't the only one who thought you were painting a pleasing face on the Cold War or even the Soviet government.

People probably think you said "all peachy keen" because you said Soviet Union was never communist, either implying it's not that bad, or that it would be nice if they were communist.

You disappoint me. and that pisses me off. I am the Ex Con. I was a thief hell,I was a lot of things.
I ain't that blatantly dishonest.

You are overreacting. Seriously.

 

[Indy Vidual]

How many sides did World War 2 really have and did it ever actually end?

How many sides did World War 1 really have and did it ever actually end? :o

 

[Feeding the Abscess]

These three books will lay the groundwork for understanding the big picture.




None Dare Call It Conspiracy
- Gary Allen, 1971




The Shadows of Power: The Council on Foreign Relations and the American Decline
- James Perloff, 1976

Does America have a hidden oligarchy? Is U.S. foreign policy run by a closed shop? What is the CFR (Council on Foreign Relations)? It began in 1921 as a front organization for J.P. Morgan and Company. By World War II it had acquired unrivaled influence on American foreign policy. Hundreds of U.S. government administrators and diplomats have been drawn from its ranks - regardless of which party has occupied the White House. But what does the Council on Foreign Relations stand for? Why do the major media avoid discussing it? What has been its impact on America's past - and what is it planning for the future? (2011ed, 273pp, pb)​

The Naked Capitalist
- Cleon Skousen, 1972

A Review and Commentary on Dr. Carroll Quigley's book: Tragedy and Hope - A History of the World in Our Time.​

Meh, our country was founded by statist freaks, some of whom advocated for a king of our own. Russian infiltration was merely the latest in a long line of the accumulation of power in the name of the state, taken from the individual.

 

[Lishy]

Yay, it's back..?

Meh, I still don't like RT.

 

[FrankRep]

Meh, our country was founded by statist freaks, some of whom advocated for a king of our own. Russian infiltration was merely the latest in a long line of the accumulation of power in the name of the state, taken from the individual.

Ron Paul supports those "statist freaks" and he supports the Constitution. Do you mind laying off the attacks?

 

[Feeding the Abscess]

Ron Paul supports those "statist freaks" and he supports the Constitution. Do you mind laying off the attacks?

He certainly does not support Hamilton and the Federalists, and said himself that he'd be an Anti-Federalist during that time.

 

[pcosmar]

I never said you said it. It was my interpretation of what you were saying. I wasn't the only one who thought you were painting a pleasing face on the Cold War or even the Soviet government.

You are overreacting. Seriously.

Oh,, from the OTHER RT thread? Here is my exact quote.

I suppose that depends on what you define as "our government".

And as to the "Commie" scare,
Despite descriptors used, the Soviet Union was NEVER communist. It was a socialist dictatorship.
The US is a Socialist Democracy, (not much better) with the false choice between Marxist(D) or Trotsky(R) leadership.

This country has not been a free republic in my lifetime. (I would like to see that change)

I never said Russia was cool there either. I only stated the fact that they were not communist.
There has never been (and never will be) a communist country. Communism is so contrary to human nature that it will never exist outside of philosophical fantasy and writing. The closest there is, is socialism.

and socialism was taking over this country in the late 1800s. It came to power in the Wilson administration.

 

[FrankRep]

He certainly does not support Hamilton and the Federalists, and said himself that he'd be an Anti-Federalist during that time.

No one supports Hamilton. I'm talking about George Washington, John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, Ben Franklin, etc...

Those "Statist Freaks" as you call them.

 

[FrankRep]

I never said Russia was cool there either. I only stated the fact that they were not communist.

I just said Russia Today is Government-run and you flipped out, but it's no secret that Vladimir Putin is a former KGB agent.

 

[Feeding the Abscess]

No one supports Hamilton. I'm talking about George Washington, John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, Ben Franklin, etc...

Those "Statist Freaks" as you call them.

Because who knows, I might have been an anti-Federalist at the time the Constitution was being written

From the horse's mouth.

I just said Russia Today is Government-run and you flipped out, but it's no secret that Vladimir Putin is a former KGB agent.

Our government here requires licensing to broadcast material, which clearly shows that the government (illegitimately) controls the airwaves. How is that so different from what Russia does?

Don't want to speak for pcosmar, but that's what I got from his postings - he was opposing oppressive government, regardless of its origin.

 

[pcosmar]

I never said you said it.

And no, I don't agree with you that the Russian government is all peachy-keen. ..

sure looks like you said I said it.
but I didn't. At no time ever.

And despite and regardless of any Russian governmental reasons for it, RT has covered some stories and events that our Controlled Media won't.
And I appreciate that.
that does not mean I love Putin or the Russian Govt.
Any more than I trust Faux Snooze just because they had the Judge on for a while.

They are propaganda outlets. Not Free press.

 

[Lishy]

What about Al Jazeera?

 

[pcosmar]

I just said Russia Today is Government-run and you flipped out, but it's no secret that Vladimir Putin is a former KGB agent.

My first post was #12,and was not in response to you, nor was it "flipping out.
After several of you posts of the same irrelevant crap, I did respond. post #39

Yes, I say again, Russia Today is the propaganda media arm of the Russian Government.

And yet again,
SO FUCKING WHAT?


The Cold War is over. (it was a sham anyway)

The communists (socialists really) own the US.
That boogieman doesn't even scare anybody anymore.

btw..SO FUCKING WHAT?, is not flipping out.

 

[BlackTerrel]

No,, not all. But a lot.

And you asked why I would vote for Ron Paul if war is inevitable..

That is simple,,
Because Ron Paul would keep the US OUT OF IT.
He would recall our troops and get out of the area, and let them have their war without us.

WW3 without the US?

 

[LibertyEagle]

sure looks like you said I said it.
but I didn't. At no time ever.

Oh, come on. Like I told you already, that was my interpretation of what you had said. In other words, that is the way I took what you said. If that is not what you meant, all you had to do was to say so and clarify. Because clearly, more than just me misunderstood your comments. I'm not playing a game with you, Pete. You know me better than that.

And despite and regardless of any Russian governmental reasons for it, RT has covered some stories and events that our Controlled Media won't.
And I appreciate that.

Yes, they do. I don't trust them though. Because I think there is another agenda going.

that does not mean I love Putin or the Russian Govt.
Any more than I trust Faux Snooze just because they had the Judge on for a while.

They are propaganda outlets. Not Free press.

All of them are. But, I will admit that it somewhat disturbs me to see people (not talking about you) fawning over RT and I think it is important to remind them that they are owned by the Russian government, so that they will keep their eyes open.