BREAKING - El Paso TX - Mass Shooting at Wal Mart

[spudea]

I'm with the revered mayor of London and believe this is just "part and parcel of living in a big city”

 

[Badger Paul]

So in a concealed-carry state where was the hero who is supposed to take down scum like this shooter Hmm? A lot of people would have appreciated it.

 

[Zippyjuan]

From a certain president: https://www.buzzfeednews.com/articl...-supporters-say-trump-has-turned-into-the-gun

As the meeting went on Trump again seemed to suggest the government could ignore due process rights when confiscating weapons. When Vice President MIke Pence referenced a California law that mandates people named in restraining orders turn in their firearms, Trump interjected.

"Take the guns first, go through due process second," he said. "A lot of times by the time you go to court, it takes so long to go to court, to get the due process procedures. I like taking the guns away early."

It was a remarkable shift for the president, who has frequently touted his endorsement from the NRA, and cast himself as a supporter of gun rights and gun owners. During the presidential campaign, Trump repeatedly revved up his base with warnings that Hillary Clinton wanted to abolish the Second Amendment.

 

[Zippyjuan]

https://www.texasmonthly.com/news/what-we-know-mass-shooting-cielo-vista-mall-walmart-el-paso/

The suspect is 21-year-old Patrick Crusius of Plano.

Early reports—including from El Paso mayor Dee Margo—suggested that there may have been more than one shooter. El Paso police have since said that they believe the shooter acted alone. He has been apprehended and is currently in custody.

In the immediate aftermath of the shooting, multiple people were taken into custody. Since then, police have identified the suspect as 21-year-old Patrick Crusius, who appears to have graduated from Plano High School in 2017, and who turned 21 last week. Because this is still early, it’s very likely that we’ll get more information about the shooter soon. We won’t link to it here, but by late afternoon on Saturday, a racist “manifesto” indicating a desire to kill immigrants and reportedly penned by the shooter began circulating on social media.

Link has a tweet including the manifesto.

https://newsone.com/3883517/el-paso-shooter-patrick-crusius/

A manifesto purportedly written by Crusius, perhaps even in the hours before the shooting attack that according to one report left at least 18 people dead, was left behind. Pages of the manifesto included anti-immigrant rhetoric with the author going into depth on why he is “against race mixing,” supports the idea to “send them back” and offering a prediction of “genocide.”

No verification but the "18 dead" seems to be an exaggeration. There was once reported 18 "casualties" but "casualties" can include not just killed but wounded people. Local TV said 22 were being treated at hospitals- 9 in "critical condition" and one dead. Two hospitals both reported receiving eleven patients each.

 

[Swordsmyth]

So in a concealed-carry state where was the hero who is supposed to take down scum like this shooter Hmm? A lot of people would have appreciated it.

I guess we need to make it easier and cheaper to carry.

 

[Dr.3D]

From a certain president: https://www.buzzfeednews.com/articl...-supporters-say-trump-has-turned-into-the-gun

Since when do they obey the constitution?

They already take away liberty while they try to determine if a crime was commited.
They already take away property in the form of fines, before there is even a trial.

Obviously we live with a guilty till proven innocent government already.

 

[Swordsmyth]

https://www.texasmonthly.com/news/what-we-know-mass-shooting-cielo-vista-mall-walmart-el-paso/

So it's another false flag?

 

[Influenza]

Something something "gun free zone." Oh wait it's an open carry state. Almost as if the idiotic world view of this forum is not based in reality.

 

[Danke]

Something something "gun free zone." Oh wait it's an open carry state. Almost as if the idiotic world view of this forum is not based in reality.

All the shoppers there couldn't carry legally.

 

[Dr.3D]

Something something "gun free zone." Oh wait it's an open carry state. Almost as if the idiotic world view of this forum is not based in reality.

How many in the store do you suppose were carrying?

 

[Zippyjuan]

Something something "gun free zone." Oh wait it's an open carry state. Almost as if the idiotic world view of this forum is not based in reality.

Don't forget "false flag" and "SSRIs".

 

[Swordsmyth]

Something something "gun free zone." Oh wait it's an open carry state. Almost as if the idiotic world view of this forum is not based in reality.

What's idiotic is thinking that gun control would help, what is needed is more guns.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Don't forget "false flag" and "SSRIs".

Both of which are probable.

 

[Dr.3D]

I suppose we will never know the political leaning of the shooter either.

What better way to push for gun control than to pull a stunt like that?

 

[Pauls' Revere]

Is the border still open there?

From Drudge:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ice-say-theres-active-shooter-local-mall.html


Evidently, there's something about a manifesto about a "Hispanic Invasion".


I was thinking, of all the Walmarts in the world why El Paso? Evidently, shooter (Patrick Crusius) is from Dallas.

 

[Zippyjuan]

How many in the store do you suppose were carrying?

https://kfoxtv.com/news/local/open-...aso-but-license-applications-continue-to-grow

Open carry not a prominent trend in El Paso but license applications continue to grow


Open carry has been in effect in Texas for a year. A license-to-carry instructor says the trend hasn’t really quite caught on in El Paso.

Alexandria Wilson said it’s mainly because of unwanted attention.

"We are seeing a lot of people taking the license-to-carry classes. Most of the students that I teach don't have much interest in carrying openly,” Wilson said. “They're more preferred to carry concealed. Although I do see it around town a little bit but, I don't see too much open carry in El Paso."

While the trend may not have caught on, more licenses are being issued.

More than 4,000 El Pasoans applied for a license to carry during the Department of Public Safety's 2016 fiscal year. That's 850 more applications compared with 2015.

Wilson told me people are hesitant to carry their weapons in public. She said they're worried other people might get intimidated by seeing a gun -- or even call police.

She says it could also put an unwanted target on those who do carry a gun openly.

"Other people view it as that it makes them more of a threat if a criminal sees them carrying that they might target that carrier first,” Wilson said.

El Paso population is about 700,000.

 

[Zippyjuan]

From Drudge:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ice-say-theres-active-shooter-local-mall.html


Evidently, there's something about a manifesto about a "Hispanic Invasion".


I was thinking, of all the Walmarts in the world why El Paso? Evidently, shooter (Patrick Crusius) is from Dallas.

Plano- about 20 miles from Dallas. I guess he wanted to go to the border to catch some immigrants (see post #24- includes a link to a tweet with the manifesto). Maybe he thought they would be shopping at WalMart?

 

[Influenza]

The same people who believe that the tax cuts would lead to deficit reduction are the ones who think more guns will lead to less gun violence. Universal background checks is the minimum regulation that should be imposed, so that mentally ill individuals like swordsmyth can be prevented from acquiring weapons

 

[Zippyjuan]

I suppose we will never know the political leaning of the shooter either.

What better way to push for gun control than to pull a stunt like that?

Based on his alleged manifesto, he is a big Trump supporter. "Send them back!"

 

[Danke]

I heard the shots but I thought they were hits, like roof construction,' said Adriana Quezada, 39, who was in Walmart with in the women’s clothing section with her two children.

She said she saw four men, dressed in black, wearing shirts, moved together firing guns indiscriminately.
'I saw four men, shooting everywhere,' Quezada said.

'I told my son, those are gunshots.'