Swordsmyth
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Same here.At this point I'm almost embarrassed to be an Eagle Scout
Same here.At this point I'm almost embarrassed to be an Eagle Scout
At the top it is very political.Who is making all these organizations and companies bandwagon with this crap?
It's not just boy scouts and girl scouts - or even just youth organizations. It's "civic service organizations" (for want of a better term) in general. Lions Club, Elks, Moose Lodge, Masons, Kiwanis, VFW, American Legion - they're all in membership decline. My own gut feel is that people are now getting their "sense of connectedness" from internet social media rather than from these civic organizations.
I think both of these points hit the nail on the head and explained way better than I could!It's not just boy scouts and girl scouts - or even just youth organizations. It's "civic service organizations" (for want of a better term) in general. Lions Club, Elks, Moose Lodge, Masons, Kiwanis, VFW, American Legion - they're all in membership decline. My own gut feel is that people are now getting their "sense of connectedness" from internet social media rather than from these civic organizations.
Edited to add:
With respect to youth organizations, in particular, I think that one of the things that's going on is that there's a dearth of adults willing to take on adult supervision roles. And I think a lot of that has to do with not wanting to put oneself in a position where you can be falsely accused of inappropriate behavior with minors.
As an Eagle Scout and Vigil Member of the OA, the current trajectory the national BSA has been on since the mid 00's has been vile and disgusting. I have several friends who are fellow Eagle Scouts my age, that will not put their sons in the program. And I know others who have actively removed their sons following this nonsense from the top down.Oh yes, no doubt.
But I think the "kiddie-diddler" scandal combined with "going woke" is what is killing BSA now, and will probably finish them off.
As an Eagle Scout and Vigil Member of the OA, the current trajectory the national BSA has been on since the mid 00's has been vile and disgusting. I have several friends who are fellow Eagle Scouts my age, that will not put their sons in the program. And I know others who have actively removed their sons following this nonsense from the top down.
But this is by design, and the way the left wants it. I do my best not to participate in the culture war, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. And what has happened to the BSA in the last 20 years or so is evidence.
That's awesome, congrats!My son achieved his Eagle Scout rank the year before they started admitting girls.
It's not just boy scouts and girl scouts - or even just youth organizations. It's "civic service organizations" (for want of a better term) in general. Lions Club, Elks, Moose Lodge, Masons, Kiwanis, VFW, American Legion - they're all in membership decline. My own gut feel is that people are now getting their "sense of connectedness" from internet social media rather than from these civic organizations.
Edited to add:
With respect to youth organizations, in particular, I think that one of the things that's going on is that there's a dearth of adults willing to take on adult supervision roles. And I think a lot of that has to do with not wanting to put oneself in a position where you can be falsely accused of inappropriate behavior with minors.
Oh yes, no doubt.
But I think the "kiddie-diddler" scandal combined with "going woke" is what is killing BSA now, and will probably finish them off.
^^^BOTH OF THESE^^^
And I will add, that people are turning over the raising of our youth to "Big Government", after school programs etc... also, I will add that people in general get/feel their connectedness through social media and big government than through their local charity or church group. I mean, why should I bother helping the bum on the street corner when I know (and have been told by numerous politicians) that government programs will fix everything. Combine this with kiddie-diddling and charity scams and folks shrug and say $#@! it, let government handle it.
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