Boy Scouts vote to allow gay members

[Anti Federalist]

Boy Scouts vote to allow gay members

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/05/23/boy-scouts-gay-vote/2352077/

Elizabeth Weise, USA TODAY6:20 p.m. EDT May 23, 2013

The Boy Scouts of America voted Thursday to allow gay youth to participate in scouting. The historic vote, with 60% in favor, signals another shift in American public opinion about homosexuality but still leaves the organization with many future hurdles.

 

[Anti Federalist]

AmeriKa:

Free to smoke dick.

Privacy to have an abortion.

Not so much for anything else.

 

[TaftFan]

Dumbass stupidity bowing to public pressure.

 

[sailingaway]

Meh. The biggest troop in Los Angeles has annually sent a memo to national reiterating that they are staying in scouts to get change from within, strictly follow youth protection procedures including never letting a child sleep in a tent with an adult other than parent, and that they absolutely refuse to ban gay scouts or leaders as a class. Note that the problems BSA ever had were with people called straight, in any event.

If it is voluntary change, I am all for it. I do think private organizations have the right to make their own rules.

 

[QueenB4Liberty]

Who cares? There's no reason gays shouldn't be allowed in the boy scouts, if they are indeed boys.

 

[Anti Federalist]

If it is voluntary change, I am all for it.

Well, I'm not so sure a generation of badgering, heckling, lawsuits and threats of legal action are what I would call "voluntary".

Not the biggest issue for me, Scouting comes out of the "progressive" era, and is much too focused on loyalty to the state.

Scouting will probably go the way of most "mainstream" religions in another 20 years.

 

[sailingaway]

scouting teaches self reliance and skills. If it becomes mainstream it will teach fear and avoidance, not gun safety and survival.

 

[V3n]

It looks like it is still under debate whether they are a public organization or a private one. They like to say they're private, but they accept tax perks and other fiduciary perks from State and Federal government - accepting one red cent from the Feds means they are not private in my book.

If they were private - I agree they should have the right to accept or deny whomever they want on any basis they want.
If they are public - I think they should have to accept gays.

I think they are public, and I view this as a victory. IMO

 

[donnay]

This is not the country I was born in--seriously!

They are really jamming this life-style down our throats to try and divide this country further. It is neither government nor the people's business what people do behind closed doors.

They are seriously exploiting homosexuals anymore. If I were a homosexual I would take offense at their exploitation.

The only way, IMHO to stop this is to not give-in to it. This is nothing more than a hijacked version of the Boy Scouts that I remembered growing up around. Boys went into boy scouts to learn skills and survival. Of course TPTB don't want boys learning that!!!

 

[donnay]

scouting teaches self reliance and skills. If it becomes mainstream it will teach fear and avoidance, not gun safety and survival.

On the contrary they are teaching boys that guns need to be controlled.

This is what they are training boys to be...

The Explorers program, a coeducational affiliate of the Boy Scouts of America that began 60 years ago, is training thousands of young people in skills used to confront terrorism, illegal immigration and escalating border violence — an intense ratcheting up of one of the group’s longtime missions to prepare youths for more traditional jobs as police officers and firefighters.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/14/us/14explorers.html?_r=2&

 

[VoluntaryAmerican]

I don't think this is that big of a deal, either way. But I think the Boy Scouts made the right decision.

 

[RonPaulFanInGA]

Death of a once-proud organization. All they did was piss off the side that liked them, the other side will still hate them no matter how much they pander to them.

 

[PaulConventionWV]

Seems kind of an usual topic for AF, but I am not necessarily disapprove.

 

[PaulConventionWV]

It looks like it is still under debate whether they are a public organization or a private one. They like to say they're private, but they accept tax perks and other fiduciary perks from State and Federal government - accepting one red cent from the Feds means they are not private in my book.

If they were private - I agree they should have the right to accept or deny whomever they want on any basis they want.
If they are public - I think they should have to accept gays.

I think they are public, and I view this as a victory. IMO

If I get financial aid to go to school, am I public property?

 

[Anti Federalist]

Seems kind of an usual topic for AF, but I am not necessarily disapprove.

You do mean, UNusual, am I right?

Because I normally steer clear of such topics...

 

[V3n]

If I get financial aid to go to school, am I public property?

You're not an organization.

 

[Keith and stuff]

Wow at some of the comments in this thread. If I was a moderator, I'd put it in Hot Topic just to hide it.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

This is not the country I was born in--seriously!

They are really jamming this life-style down our throats to try and divide this country further. It is neither government nor the people's business what people due behind closed doors.

They are seriously exploiting homosexuals anymore. If I were a homosexual I would take offense at their exploitation.

The only way, IMHO to stop this is to not give-in to it. This is nothing more than a hijacked version of the Boy Scouts that I remembered growing up around. Boys went into boy scouts to learn skills and survival. Of course TPTB don't want boys learning that!!!

I still have my scouts handbook (I was only in it for a year or so, and only got one badge). If you get a handbook off ebay or something, you can teach your sons all that stuff without sending them off with a pervy scout leader.

 

[jonhowe]

As a former scout, good on them.


Again, this is not about "allowing gays". It's about allowing kids who are gay to not have to hide it. Several of my former scouting friends are now openly gay, post scouts. If you aren't comfortable with gays (well, thats your problem), at least now you know who they are.


Edit: My first introduction to guns was in scouts. Moved me from being terrified of them to being a great shot, and a safe shooter.

 

[RonPaulFanInGA]

As a former scout, good on them.


Again, this is not about "allowing gays". It's about allowing kids who are gay to not have to hide it. Several of my former scouting friends are now openly gay, post scouts. If you aren't comfortable with gays (well, thats your problem), at least now you know who they are.

I wasn't aware there was a large crowd of 8-year-old homosexuals in the Boy Scouts clamoring for a chance to come out.