Boy Scouts vote to allow gay members

[phill4paul]

DId you catch this part of post 333?


Boy Scouts begin their decay
http://www.beaufortobserver.net/Art...7038.112112-Boy-Scouts-begin-their-decay.html

If you check the BSA Website in “How Scouting is Funded” http://www.scouting.org/About/FactSheets/Funding.aspx

You see Contributions from the United Way listed there but not direct funding from the Federal Government. So the Pressure was not from funding. However there were threats to bar them from using Federal lands if they did not allow Gays to join. We assume it will be alright for Gays to use these lands to promote their agenda but not the Boy Scouts.

There have been concessions in the past for the Scouts to receive some Government Surplus for camping ETC. There was a threat to take this concession away

How about this part?

Senator Introduces Bill to Revoke Boy Scout’s Tax-Exempt Status
http://politicker.com/2013/05/senator-introduces-bill-to-revoke-boy-scouts-tax-exempt-status/
(It's not what you think. They want to FORCE BSA to accept openly gay adult leaders)


-t

Lie with dogs awake with fleas.......

http://www.thehumanist.org/humanist/articles/bsa.html

If you want a private organization than be one.

 

[Don Lapre]

My brother was in scouts. I went to his awards ceremonies and the pinewood derby -- the vast majority of the boys there were under 13. Of course there were a few high school guys that stuck with it, everyone was there to have a good time doing scouts stuff with their guy friends. Sexuality wasn't a subject of concern. With that, I don't see why the anti-gay people are making a big deal out of allowing gay scouts nor can I see why the gay community should make a big deal out of making BSA allow openly gay scouts.

Even when I did baton twirling in middle and high school, no one talked about their relationships or sexual orientation. You went to practices and performances with focus on twirling. If someone said they were gay no one would be kicked out, no one would have suffered damage to their moral or religious values, and quite frankly, no one would have cared.

Openly gay, not only gay, straight, asexual, etc. it shouldn't be a topic discussed or of concern in kid's activities.

Absolutely right.

 

[Carlybee]

Baptists plan exodus from Boy Scouts

http://www.click2houston.com/lifest...uts/-/1735440/20378380/-/w0kgjmz/-/index.html

 

[Noob]

Baptists plan exodus from Boy Scouts

http://www.click2houston.com/lifest...uts/-/1735440/20378380/-/w0kgjmz/-/index.html

Southeast Christian Church is doing the same.

http://politicaloutcast.com/2013/05/boy-scout-exodus-has-begun/#.UaZ10zwrRwU.twitter

 

[phill4paul]

"Boy" Scouts to allow transgenders.....

Boy Scouts to allow transgender children who identify as boys to enroll

The Boy Scouts of America announced Monday that it will allow transgender children who identify as boys to enroll in its boys-only programs.

The organization announced it had made the decision to begin basing enrollment in its boys-only programs on the gender a child or parent lists on the application to become a scout. The organization had previously held a policy that relied on the gender listed on a child's birth certificate for those programs.

Rebecca Rausch, a spokeswoman for the organization, said in a statement that the organization's leadership had considered a recent case in Secaucus, N.J., where an 8-year-old child had been asked to leave his Cub Scout troop after parents and leaders found out he is transgender, but the change was made because of the larger conversation about gender identity going on around the country.

"For more than 100 years, the Boy Scouts of America, along with schools, youth sports and other youth organizations, have ultimately deferred to the information on an individual's birth certificate to determine eligibility for our single-gender programs," the statement said. "However, that approach is no longer sufficient as communities and state laws are interpreting gender identity differently, and these laws vary widely from state to state."

Rausch said the enrollment decision goes into effect immediately.

"Our organization's local councils will help find units that can provide for the best interest of the child," the statement said.

Boy Scouts of America leaders lifted a blanket ban on gay troop leaders and employees in July 2015.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-boy-scouts-transgender-20170130-story.html

 

[presence]

***** troop leaders and trangendered "boy" scouts

yeah I'll opt my son out of that SJW drama

 

[specsaregood]

***** troop leaders and trangendered "boy" scouts

yeah I'll opt my son out of that SJW drama

at this point, you'd think they could just rename it "scouts" and not base it on gender at all and allow anybody interested in the program to take part. I mean why keep pretending? just make it inclusive of everyone if you are going to do that anyway, no need to confuse the kids.

 

[presence]

scouts need a schism

 

[phill4paul]

at this point, you'd think they could just rename it "scouts" and not base it on gender at all and allow anybody interested in the program to take part. I mean why keep pretending? just make it inclusive of everyone if you are going to do that anyway, no need to confuse the kids.

The "Girl" Scouts allowed transgender back in 2015 I think. Might as well just roll it all under the same banner.

 

[CaptUSA]

at this point, you'd think they could just rename it "scouts" and not base it on gender at all and allow anybody interested in the program to take part. I mean why keep pretending? just make it inclusive of everyone if you are going to do that anyway, no need to confuse the kids.

Yeah, I think that's where this is heading. Inclusivity above all. Freedom of association is going the way of the dodo.

Of course, this is an inevitable outcome of entangling public and private associations. The problem being, of course, is that it is increasingly difficult to escape the snares of those entanglements when the government is involved in nearly every aspect of society.

 

[SovereignMN]

My wife and daughter left the girl scouts a few years ago and started a local troop for American Heritage Girls. It's an openly Christian organization that puts a lot of emphasis on purity.

I'd like to see: https://www.traillifeusa.com/ catch on.

 

[ghengis86]

My wife and daughter left the girl scouts a few years ago and started a local troop for American Heritage Girls. It's an openly Christian organization that puts a lot of emphasis on purity.

I'd like to see: https://www.traillifeusa.com/ catch on.

CRC has GEMS and Cadets. Both Christian, very similar to the traditional Boy Scouts (badges, skills, derby cars, etc.).

 

[Superfluous Man]

I'm pretty sure the Boy Scouts have already allowed girls for a long time.

 

[pcosmar]

at this point, you'd think they could just rename it "scouts" and not base it on gender at all and allow anybody interested in the program to take part. I mean why keep pretending? just make it inclusive of everyone if you are going to do that anyway, no need to confuse the kids.

That would make the Jamboree more interesting.

 

[juleswin]

Yeah, I think that's where this is heading. Inclusivity above all. Freedom of association is going the way of the dodo.

You do know The Boy's scout is a private organization and you are not obligated to join them? this is not freedom of association going the way of the dodos, if anything, this is the opposite of it.

Of course, this is an inevitable outcome of entangling public and private associations. The problem being, of course, is that it is increasingly difficult to escape the snares of those entanglements when the government is involved in nearly every aspect of society.

This is not the inevitable outcome of entangling public and private organizations, this is happening because times are changing. The truth is that more and more people are getting more comfortable with the idea of transgender people and they changed their policy most likely because of bad PR.

 

[presence]

You do know The Boy's scout is a private organization and you are not obligated to join them? this is not freedom of association going the way of the dodos, if anything, this is the opposite of it.

[h=3]Government Funding of Boys Scouts' Discriminatory Policies ...[/h]https://www.secular.org/.../government-funding-boys-scouts-discriminatory-policies-u...


Jul 19, 2012 - "If the Boy Scouts is determined to continue discriminating, it should be stripped of all public funding and support from public agencies."

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[Chomp]

I would say, welcome to modern Sodom and Gomorrah !

 

[donnay]

Just another way to sully and disparage an organization who turns out good young men into the world.

Disgusting.

 

[asurfaholic]

What is gender anyways? I thought you were either one sex or the other, except in very rare circumstances?

Does anyone have any statistics that point out how rare this medical condition actually occurs vs how many people just simply opt to change their "gender?"

 

[juleswin]

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I looked at the link and I am not very impressed with the so called govt funding of the Boy's scout

The US Code authorizes the Secretary of Defense to lend supplies and equipment and transportation for Boy Scout events.
All branches of the military issue a promotion (to E2 or E3) for Eagle Scouts, the highest Boy Scout rank. This constitutes discrimination in hiring by the military as well as government approval of the Boy Scouts' discriminatory policies.
Equal Opportunity regulations in the military explicitly prohibit support of organizations that discriminate. Yet there is a close collaboration between the military and the Scouts. Department of Defense Instruction 1015.9 directs the Secretary of the Army to the Executive Agent for all components of the DoD to promote scouting among military families as directed by the President.
The U.S. President traditionally serves as the honorary President of the Boy Scouts of America, a tradition which President Obama has continued.
In early 2005, Congress passed a resolution expressing a sense of the Congress that the Department of Defense should support BSA activities through the use of military personnel, federal land use, and other assistance for their massive Jamborees. The 2005 Jamboree cost taxpayers approximately $8 million.
In 2008, Congress voted to pass the "Boy Scouts of America Centennial Commemorative Coin Act" (H.R. 5872). The bill mandated that the U.S. Mint create and sell as many as 350,000 one dollar coins commemorating the Scouts' centennial in the year 2010. A ten dollar surcharge on each coin goes directly to the Boy Scouts of America, who will net as much as $3.5 million in the deal.

Its no different from the relationship the govt have with say the NFL or NCAA, where they provide some fund to help with advertisement to the people most likely to be good army men.