Bob Barr

[Manji2012]

Who is Bob Barr? I just heard of this guy today and apparently he is a libertarian running for president that is for some of the same things Ron Paul is for like limited government. I assume a non-intervention foreign policy he is for also.

Uhh, is his name going to be on the nomination ballot at the nation convention or is Ron Paul or, who can we vote for?

Would you vote for Bob Barr or are you gonna stick your guns with Ron Paul?

Please share your thoughts, thank you.
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[Alex Libman]

Bob Barr is the nominee of the Libertarian Party (LP), and so far the most libertarian candidate you can vote for on November 4th. He is also the most likely candidate to get into televised debates with McCain and Obama / Clinton, and could do as well as Ross Perot or better.

Ron Paul has declined to leave the Republican Party, which means he will not be on the ballot in November. You can still write him in as a protest vote, but some states don't even bother counting write-in votes, so it's MUCH better to vote for someone who's actually running.

There's also Chuck Baldwin of the Constitution Party, but he is less libertarian than Barr and will probably get some small fraction of 1% of the vote.

Other "more libertarian than the LP" candidates, like Mary Ruwart, could still jump in the race, but getting them on the ballot in at least a few states will be a challenge.

 

[Kludge]

Barr's VP pick may very well actually be able to beat out Stockdale in a debate too, not that any third party/Ind. will be at a debate with GOP/Dem P/VP

 

[crazyfingers]

Bob Barr is the Libertarian nominee. His libertarian credentials are hotly disputed. He'll likely be on the ballot in most states. Do a search and you'll find a lot of recent threads regarding this.

 

[Alex Libman]

His libertarian credentials are very strong actually, what most people are upset with is that he comes from the pragmatic wing of the Libertarian Party that focuses on realistic results rather than Utopianism.

 

[Kevlar]

I was planning on writing-in Ron Paul, but I'm really impressed by Barr. He might just get my vote.

 

[crazyfingers]

His libertarian credentials are very strong actually, what most people are upset with is that he comes from the pragmatic wing of the Libertarian Party that focuses on realistic results rather than Utopianism.

I disagree. On a number of important issues (including interventionism) Bob Barr holds some decidedly non-libertarian positions. I support an incremental approach to policy reform, but it doesn't do any good if you're not moving in the correct direction.

Much of Barr's congressional record is hostile towards libertarianism. While he has renounced some of it, it is still questionable how much his positions have really changed.

 

[OptionsTrader]

Vote barr if you want a leader with a record of:
--Authoring a bill legalizing state sponsored assassinations.
--Voting for the Iraq war and foreign interventionism
--Voting for the Patriot Act, twice
--Voting for the Department of Homeland security
--Actively supporting the unconstitutltional war on drugs

 

[allyinoh]

Who is Bob Barr? I just heard of this guy today and apparently he is a libertarian running for president that is for some of the same things Ron Paul is for like limited government. I assume a non-intervention foreign policy he is for also.

Uhh, is his name going to be on the nomination ballot at the nation convention or is Ron Paul or, who can we vote for?

Would you vote for Bob Barr or are you gonna stick your guns with Ron Paul?

Please share your thoughts, thank you.
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Bob Barr voted for the Patriot Act and for creating the Department of Homeland Security he also was for the War on Drugs.

He states now that he regrets those votes (flip-flopper).

You can find out more about him just do a google search. Oh and he never joined the revolution or endorsed Ron Paul.

 

[yongrel]

My stance is this:

Regardless of our differences, Barr's success is my success.

 

[Kludge]

Vote barr if you want a leader with a record of:
--Authoring a bill legalizing state sponsored assassinations.
--Voting for the Iraq war and foreign interventionism
--Voting for the Patriot Act, twice
--Voting for the Department of Homeland security
--Actively supporting the unconstitutltional war on drugs

-Ron Paul also endorsed government assassination of terrorist leaders as opposed to war.

-Barr has renounced his support for the Iraq war, foreign intervention and the PATRIOT Act (which he made sure was amended to protect many civil liberties)

-Barr believes many issues are those of the state as opposed to the job of the federal government and believes the federal war on drugs to be a failure.

 

[ARealConservative]

I disagree. On a number of important issues (including interventionism) Bob Barr holds some decidedly non-libertarian positions. I support an incremental approach to policy reform, but it doesn't do any good if you're not moving in the correct direction.

Much of Barr's congressional record is hostile towards libertarianism. While he has renounced some of it, it is still questionable how much his positions have really changed.

If we were to remove the 16th amendment, our ability to play global police would be gone with it.....a huge move in the right direction.

If we were to reverse the scope of the commerce clause and allow medical MJ in the states that wish to, that would signal a positive direction.

Check out his issues page.......

 

[Alex Libman]

Bob Barr used his vote to help influence limitations of the "Patriot Act" - which is a good thing, even though it might not look good on paper to the uninitiated. He was a "Reagan Republican", but he changed, and he left the Republican Party - something that Ron Paul won't do.

 

[AutoDas]

Bob Barr voted for the Patriot Act and for creating the Department of Homeland Security he also was for the War on Drugs.

He states now that he regrets those votes (flip-flopper).

You can find out more about him just do a google search. Oh and he never joined the revolution or endorsed Ron Paul.

Stop throwing around epithets just for attention. A flip-flopper is someone he changes his position more than once. It may surprise you that people do change. Bob Barr has helped try and reverse those policies.

 

[OptionsTrader]

Stop throwing around epithets just for attention. A flip-flopper is someone he changes his position more than once. It may surprise you that people do change. Bob Barr has helped try and reverse those policies.

Ask Barr to reverse the miillion+ dead people in Iraq. He is an accessory to mass murder plain and simple. And he has a record of anti-libertarian voting and pro-neocon agenda pushing. His recent rhetoric is not something I choose to trust on faith.

 

[Unspun]

Ask Barr to reverse the miillion+ dead people in Iraq. He is an accessory to mass murder plain and simple. And he has a record of anti-libertarian voting and pro-neocon agenda pushing. His recent rhetoric is not something I choose to trust on faith.

Guess you could say the same thing about Ron Paul since he authorized the war in Afghanistan....

 

[allyinoh]

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[Unspun]

Bob Barr voted for the Patriot Act and for creating the Department of Homeland Security he also was for the War on Drugs.

He states now that he regrets those votes (flip-flopper).

You can find out more about him just do a google search. Oh and he never joined the revolution or endorsed Ron Paul.

I guess coming to your senses and changing your mind is out of the question? With that mentality this movement will surely die quickly.

-Ron Paul also endorsed government assassination of terrorist leaders as opposed to war.

-Barr has renounced his support for the Iraq war, foreign intervention and the PATRIOT Act (which he made sure was amended to protect many civil liberties)

-Barr believes many issues are those of the state as opposed to the job of the federal government and believes the federal war on drugs to be a failure.

He didn't just endorse government assassination, he endorsed private entities doing the assassinations.

 

[MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2]

His libertarian credentials are very strong actually, what most people are upset with is that he comes from the pragmatic wing of the Libertarian Party that focuses on realistic results rather than Utopianism.

Like the drug war?

 

[Unspun]

Like the drug war?

Like the fact that he has been working to repeal the very things he enacted since he left Congress?