Bob Barr

Guess you could say the same thing about Ron Paul since he authorized the war in Afghanistan....

You could, but that would simply emphasize the need to get past the "Ron Paul can do no wrong" mentality.

Think for yourself. Don't lean on the authority of anyone else's opinion, even if it's Dr Paul's.
 
Like the fact that he has been working to repeal the very things he enacted since he left Congress?

Yet at the same time calling for increased intervention in South America in order to fight "narco-terrorists."

Face it, he talks out of both sides of his mouth.
 
Has he changed his views on freedom to practice one's religion of choice (or lack thereof) without demonizing them because he does not understand/cannot relate to them?



Representative Bob Barr's Statements:
U.S. Representative Bob Barr (GA-7) has been a United States Attorney, and currently serves on the House Judiciary, Government Reform and Banking committees. 2

On 1999-MAY-13, he issued a press release titled:

"BARR: CAUSES OF YOUTH VIOLENCE FOUND IN ADULT CULTURE." 3

He lists as one of the causes of youth violence the practice by the U.S. military to permit Wiccan personnel to observe their religious faith. Wicca is a benign, earth-centered religion, which is somewhat similar to Native American Spirituality. A second source of youth violence that he cites is the increasing acceptance by university students of humanism, a secular, non-theistic philosophy with a strong ethical component.

On 1999-MAY-18, he issued a second press release. Copies were delivered to military and congressional leaders. Recipients included Army Secretary Louis Caldera and Lt. Gen. Leon S. LaPorte, commander of Fort Hood, TX. It is titled:

"BARR DEMANDS END TO TAXPAYER-FUNDED WITCHCRAFT ON AMERICAN MILITARY BASES." 4

He is reported as having viewed a report on The O'Reilly Factor, a program on Fox News. It featured vernal equinox ceremonies by soldiers at Fort Hood, TX. He had heard that military chaplains at Fort Hood, and other bases "are sanctioning, if not supporting the practice of witchcraft as a 'religion' by soldiers on military bases."

It is unclear exactly how the toleration of Wicca (a.k.a. Witchcraft) and other minority religions are taxpayer-funded. Large armed forces bases frequently have one or more Protestant ministers, Roman Catholic priests, and a Jewish rabbis on staff. The Christian and Jewish soldiers' religious needs are met at some taxpayer expense. The military pays clergy salaries, provides chaplains with offices and support staff, etc. In a hypothetical case of an army base with 5,000 soldiers, and 3 chaplains at $75,000 per year each, the government allocates $45 per year for the spiritual support of each Christian or Jewish soldier. But there are, to our knowledge, no Wiccan Priests, Priestesses, or chaplain office at any base in America. Wiccans are expected to fend for themselves, and provide their own priests and priestesses from within their own membership. The cost per Wiccan for spiritual support is essentially nothing. Some news sources stated that the Army had increased security at Fort Hood "in order to deter members of Christian groups from intimidating the witches, who meet in campgrounds..." 7 The army would certainly incur costs due to the need for this increased security. However, that is not the fault of the Wiccans. It is caused by perceived threats from some Christian sources.

Barr stated that allowing Wiccans to follow their religion on base: "...sets a dangerous precedent that could easily result in the practice of all sorts of bizarre practices being supported by the military under the rubric of 'religion.' "

He rejects Wicca (a.k.a. Witchcraft) as a legitimate religion, even though:

It meets the criteria for a religious belief specified in the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
It has been recognized as a valid religion by at least two U.S. district courts.
It has hundreds of thousands of followers in the U.S.

Rep Barr continues: "What's next? Will armored divisions be forced to travel with sacrificial animals for Satanic rituals? Will Rastafarians demand the inclusion of ritualistic marijuana cigarettes in their rations?..."
 
Barr is too vague on immigration. The is the libertarian party's stance:

LP Platform said:
Political freedom and escape from tyranny demand that individuals not be unreasonably constrained by government in the crossing of political boundaries. Economic freedom demands the unrestricted movement of human as well as financial capital across national borders.

Yeah, lets have the unrestricted movement of the third world into the country!

On immigration the libertarian party is betraying the policies that built this nation. Barr will not be getting my vote nor will any libertarian who doesn't deviate from the LP platform on this issue.
 
Last edited:
Guess you could say the same thing about Ron Paul since he authorized the war in Afghanistan....
No, you can't, because the war in Afghanistan was justified. We were attacked and went after those who attacked us.

There was no substantiated rationale for going into Iraq. It was a preemptive, unilateral war based on lies. Big difference.
 
No, you can't, because the war in Afghanistan was justified.

Regardless, civilians and people uninvolved with 9/11 were killed. It doesn't matter, any innocent dead is murder under the assumption you all are going by. And I don't remember the Afghani government attacking us, I believe it was Al-Quieda...
 
Last edited:
It would have been easier if he just didn't enact it.

Most certainly. I don't think he should run entirely on his congressional record, and he doesn't seem to be. It's others who, rightfully, bring it up. But since then things have changed. Even I have changed.
 
Most certainly. I don't think he should run entirely on his congressional record, and he doesn't seem to be. It's others who, rightfully, bring it up. But since then things have changed. Even I have changed.

True, but then again, Ron Paul WAS there saying "Don't do it, don't go to war with Iraq." He could have listened but he chose not to, he chose to go along with the GOP.

Ron Paul didn't care, he voted against those things and still holds the same views today. Barr could have not cared either and went with his heart but he went with the party.

That's what gets me.
 
barr has a great shot at legitimizing the libertarian party. The message is more important than the man, and it is a generally libertarian message. Im voting barr/root.
 
People are going to hear Barr spreading a message and see him as the leader of the Libertarian Party. Then they are going to look into Barr and think that the LP is basically some version of the Republican Party.
 
The Barr/Root ticket appeals to fiscal conservatives, Objectivists, pro-business pragmatists, etc. There are far more of them than there are idealist anarcho-capitalists (most of whom don't vote anyway) - a study found that 18-24 million voters score "libertarian" on the Nolan Chart. If the purists don't like the LP becoming more pragmatic, they're welcome to start their own "no surrender, no retreat, no compromises" protest party, because the LP is no longer a protest party. It has a chance to make a serious difference, one step at a time.
 
I guess coming to your senses and changing your mind is out of the question? With that mentality this movement will surely die quickly.



He didn't just endorse government assassination, he endorsed private entities doing the assassinations.

And the downside of killing Osama Bin Laden (if he's really still alive) would be......?

Letters of Marquee and Reprisal are constitutional and has been used before. And it beats the crap out of punishing an entire country for the sins of a few rogue terrorists.

Regards,

John M. Drake
 
Barr is a fraud, and there's no way he's getting my vote. I'm either writing in Ron Paul, for voting for Chuck Baldwin.
 
Doesn't anyone consider the fact that Paul would very likely be part of a Barr Administration? I admit, I don't like Barr much either, but wouldnt supporting the libertarian party be the next best bet getting Ron Paul in the white house?
 
I don't have much to say about Barr, but Wayne Allen Root is well-suited to the libertarian party, gotta give the guy that!

51NZSBFP3XL._AA240_.jpg
 
I am warming up to lukewarm with Barr. But W.A.R.??? How did this guy get into the LP? His foriegn policy is the anti to the LP.
 
Ask Barr to reverse the miillion+ dead people in Iraq. He is an accessory to mass murder plain and simple. And he has a record of anti-libertarian voting and pro-neocon agenda pushing. His recent rhetoric is not something I choose to trust on faith.

Covering Up Murder
Posted by Lew Rockwell at 07:13 AM
Soldiers back from Iraq discuss the planting of weapons on the bodies of dead Iraqi and Afghani civilians, so that they can be called guerillas.

This is an ancient government tradition, of course. It's also another reminder, as if we needed one, that anyone who has supported this immoral war is an accessory to mass murder
 
Back
Top