Bin Laden Killed? Who's buying it?

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Of course. But that doesn't prove anything. Sure it seems strange and gives me doubts, but unlike most people here, i'm resisting the urge to just declare that this is a 100% fake event with nothing to go on but my own feelings/opinion on the matter.

Wrong. Actually, destroying evidence proves (once again) that the government has something to hide especially when the same modus operandi occurs time and time and time again.... Oh, no, we have to put this horrible tragedy behind us so let's build a park and bury the evidence. Oh, no, we have to put this horrible tragedy behind us so let's ship the evidence (steel) to far away China and bury it. Oh, now, our mission wasn't to capture the evidence (Osama), just to kill him and consequently destroy any tangible evidence. Hearsay and testimony is good enough .... BS
 
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Whether he's dead now or dead years ago is irrelevant to me. The bottom line is that there's little disagreement that he's dead. One way or another, that means that the spectre of Osama as America's face of the enemy is a thing of the past. Will that mean the end of America's adventures in the Middle East? Will that mean they will work to build up a new boogieman? Will America continue its war against a tactic without the use of an identifiable face?

I completely agree that this "at sea burial" stuff sounds fishy at best. But all that I mentioned above seems more important than when and how Bin Laden died.
 
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Having several family members in the medical field requires me to take this news with a grain of salt. The doctors in my family refer to dialysis as a "five-year death sentence." Put on top of that that bin Laden was in poor health in 2001 and that he was a diabetic with lung problems (two more strikes against his longevity), and the chances of a man with so much going against him medically living almost ten years are astronomical, even leaving aside the fact that he was being hunted in the mountains all this time.

EDIT: Additionally, the fact that the picture has been exposed as a Photoshop of an old picture of bin Laden and that the body was quickly disposed of in the ocean adds reason to be suspicious of the official story.

My mother lived on dialysis, the same kind Osama was on, for 13 years (intermittently, one 6.5 year stint followed by another 6 years after her kidney transplant failed). Peritoneal dialysis (the kind Osama and my mother were on) is different than hemodialysis. Hemodiaysis is a death sentence in 5 years, peritoneal can last decades if it is done right.
 
Now, the government is planning on releasing a video.... nice of them eh? ;)


WHERE'S THE FLIPPING BODY? eh? Oh, you cut Osama into pieces and stuffed him into bottles as a message for another time and shore? WHERE'S THE FLIPPING BODY?
 
Now, the government is planning on releasing a video.... nice of them eh? ;)


WHERE'S THE FLIPPING BODY? eh? Oh, you cut Osama into pieces and stuffed him into bottles as a message for another time and shore? WHERE'S THE FLIPPING BODY?

Link?
 
Wrong. Actually, destroying evidence proves (once again) that the government has something to hide especially when the same modus operandi occurs time and time and time again.... Oh, no, we have to put this horrible tragedy behind us so let's build a park and bury the evidence. Oh, no, we have to put this horrible tragedy behind us so let's ship the evidence (steel) to far away China and bury it. Oh, now, our mission wasn't to capture the evidence (Osama), just to kill him and consequently destroy any tangible evidence. Hearsay and testimony is good enough .... BS
Once again, i will form my opinion based on facts. I realize i will never get the facts and it is very possible that one of the thousands of theories out there is correct. You are more than welcome to assume what you want, but don't tell me i am wrong try to pass your opinion as fact or backed by facts, because it is not. Sorry that is so hard to understand.
 
Once again, i will form my opinion based on facts. I realize i will never get the facts and it is very possible that one of the thousands of theories out there is correct. You are more than welcome to assume what you want, but don't tell me i am wrong try to pass your opinion as fact or backed by facts, because it is not. Sorry that is so hard to understand.

You don't have ANY facts, because the only real FACT is the currently missing BODY and the fact that in the last 2 major disasters in the US, the government quickly destroyed pertinent physical evidence... a FACT. Get it? WHERE'S THE FLIPPING BODY?
 
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You don't have ANY facts, because the only real FACT is the currently missing BODY and the fact that in the last 2 major disasters in the US, the government quickly destroyed pertinent physical evidence... a FACT. Get it? WHERE'S THE FLIPPING BODY?

From what we've been told, I would gather it is supposed to be on the bottom of the Arabian sea.
 
I don't care really. Because it won't prove to be that big of a game changing event, and I can't know whether or not the story is true or not. You can't use logic to come to conclusion on the matter, and just deduce what it going on.. You kinda need facts, which we won't get enough of to know the truth.

So I don't share the same Scooby-Doo like interest that so many people here seem to have:

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The most we can do is speculate on how this will change American voter's attitudes on the continuation of the various wars.
 
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I couldn't wait to see all the new conspiracy theories about this. Luckily I have not been disappointed with all the great stuff by AJ and the rest. He is always good for a laugh.
 
You don't have ANY facts, because the only real FACT is the currently missing BODY and the fact that in the last 2 major disasters in the US, the government quickly destroyed pertinent physical evidence... a FACT. Get it? WHERE'S THE FLIPPING BODY?

i ask the same questions as you bro. we are all here for the same reasons so chill out. im just not going on the conspiracy bandwagon within 24 hours of an event with very conflicting info coming from all directions. Id like to learn more as does everyone else. NO NEED TO BE HOSTILE
 
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it doesn't matter weather he is dead or alive, if it happened or not. What matters is that this "event" is being used to rein in the minds of the populace to more easily conform to the will of others. . . that is what the concern should be, IMHO. I mean just look how many people are talking about it, everywhere!
now they can be fed . . . guided. Most of the people talking all over the globe simply parrot back what they heard (were told) like non thinking robots spreading a virus, blind leading blind. A small percent actually knows facts behind the characters and events transpiring . . . but they can be fed special food . . . a smaller percent digs deeper and actually forms their own unique opinions outside of the machine.. .
the first types are the clone soldiers of the emperor, unable to be moved into free self generated thought by any fact, formula, or argument.

. . . however, the last type is the hope of the future . . .

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I couldn't wait to see all the new conspiracy theories about this. Luckily I have not been disappointed with all the great stuff by AJ and the rest. He is always good for a laugh.

Alex Jones is on the case of the mysterious and alleged death of Osama bin Laden, along with his crew Scooby Doo and a host of internet experts who can logically deduce why the US government conjured up this story now, what they have to gain, and what they are distracting us from.

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Alex Jones is on the case of the mysterious and alleged death of Osama bin Laden, along with his crew Scooby Doo and a host of internet experts who can logically deduce why the US government conjured up this story now, what they have to gain, and what they are distracting us from.

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i literally lol'd. great post.
 
Just checking the collective IQ of the forum.

OK, this thread is humming along at a fast clip, so in case this has been raised by another already, pardon my slow reading habit.

There are three possibilities that stand out with regard to the question at hand: either he has recently died, he died prior, or he isn't dead at all.

If we assume Obama... erm, I mean, OSAMA, is in fact no longer among we the living, and if in fact he died a while back, the central question that arises would not be why his death was concealed (answer to that is elementary), but why is he being announced as having been recently killed? What purpose may this serve and who might stand to benefit from it?

It could be a "reelect me 'cuz I be bad" ploy by Osama... erm, I mean OBAMA, but the timing seems far less than optimal for that, so I'd scratch it for now. What does that leave? Chasing Osama has been one of the cornerstone justifications for spending a billion dollars a day in Eye-Rack and Afghan. Killing him off in this manner would seem a bit of killing the goose that lays the golden eggs, would it not? If so, then why would so valuable an asset in the war for public mind-share be retired? There would have to be a very significant reason - but what?

One particularly paranoid notion that crosses my mind is that of the possible utility of martyrdom for those holding the reins of the US military. If we announce to the world that we succeeded in knocking off the sacred Osama, no doubt certain elements of the Muslim world are going to go wholesale native. If I were in charge of all of this mess and if in fact the protection of the people and interests of the United States were my foremost goal, after killing Bin Laden I would swear everyone to eternal secrecy precisely to deny the fanatics their martyr. If, however, my goal is something other than the interests and safety of the American people, making this announcement would be handing them their martyr on a silver platter. This move seems ever so transparently in contravention to anything sensible that I cannot help but question the motives of those making it.

The next question, of course, is "why?" The obvious and perhaps even the correct answer is "power". By martyring OBL, we provide our enemies with an icon that serves to raise and maintain the drive to make war against the infidel. This, of course, guarantees standing, low-intensity warfare punctuated with occasional burst activity for many decades to come. The threat brings the wagons at home into a circle and makes the crushing of any dissenting voice far less onerous in the mind of Johnny Q. Such oppression would, in fact, most likely be welcomed by many because of the false sense of security and order it provides the intellectually bereft nervous nellie.

Of course, it is entirely possible that he really did die just the other day. Any takers?
 
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Alex Jones is on the case of the mysterious and alleged death of Osama bin Laden, along with his crew Scooby Doo and a host of internet experts who can logically deduce why the US government conjured up this story now, what they have to gain, and what they are distracting us from.

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Haha, great post. Has there been any major news story that has happened over the past decade that AJ hasn't created some crazy conspiracy for? He sure does like to create mysteries for himself to solve. Maybe he should become a science fiction author instead.
 
Haha, great post. Has there been any major news story that has happened over the past decade that AJ hasn't created some crazy conspiracy for? He sure does like to create mysteries for himself to solve. Maybe he should become a science fiction author instead.

I like his political views, but I wish he just didn't think everything was a conspiracy when his evidence is generally very weak, relying on circumstantial evidence and non-credible sources that sometimes believe the world is run by evil reptilians.
 
OK, this thread is humming along at a fast clip, so in case this has been raised by another already, pardon my slow reading habit.

There are three possibilities that stand out with regard to the question at hand: either he has recently died, he died prior, or he isn't dead at all.

If we assume Obama... erm, I mean, OSAMA, is in fact no longer among we the living, and if in fact he died a while back, the central question that arises would not be why his death was concealed (answer to that is elementary), but why is he being announced as having been recently killed? What purpose may this serve and who might stand to benefit from it?

It could be a "reelect me 'cuz I be bad" ploy by Osama... erm, I mean OBAMA, but the timing seems far less than optimal for that, so I'd scratch it for now. What does that leave? Chasing Osama has been one of the cornerstone justifications for spending a billion dollars a day in Eye-Rack and Afghan. Killing him off in this manner would seem a bit of killing the goose that lays the golden eggs, would it not? If so, then why would so valuable an asset in the war for public mind-share be retired? There would have to be a very significant reason - but what?

One particularly paranoid notion that crosses my mind is that of the possible utility of martyrdom for those holding the reins of the US military. If we announce to the world that we succeeded in knocking off the sacred Osama, no doubt certain elements of the Muslim world are going to go wholesale native. If I were in charge of all of this mess and if in fact the protection of the people and interests of the United States were my foremost goal, after killing Bin Laden I would swear everyone to eternal secrecy precisely to deny the fanatics their martyr. If, however, my goal is something other than the interests and safety of the American people, making this announcement would be handing them their martyr on a silver platter. This move seems ever so transparently in contravention to anything sensible that I cannot help but question the motives of those making it.

The next question, of course, is "why?" The obvious and perhaps even the correct answer is "power". By martyring OBL, we provide our enemies with an icon that serves to raise and maintain the drive to make war against the infidel. This, of course, guarantees standing, low-intensity warfare punctuated with occasional burst activity for many decades to come. The threat brings the wagons at home into a circle and makes the crushing of any dissenting voice far less onerous in the mind of Johnny Q. Such oppression would, in fact, most likely be welcomed by many because of the false sense of security and order it provides the intellectually bereft nervous nellie.

Of course, it is entirely possible that he really did die just the other day. Any takers?

Interesting, I hadn't considered it that way; that they would intentionally cause blowback so as to justify their agenda, rather than creating the problem to be solved.
 
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