I did not vote in the poll.
Who could vote unless they knew the truth? I sure do not.
After reading the posts concerning Bin Laden over the last 24 hours, I am going to make a prediction.
Bin Laden conspiracy theorists are going to cost Ron Paul the presidency. That is my prediction.
Truth often carries high prices.
I don't know or care if he is dead now or died in 2001 or died in 2003 or died in 2007. It really makes no difference to the issue of needing to end these horrendous wars.
In an sense I agree, but overall this position is short-sighted. When he died and the exact nature of his position in this scheme of war and politics are issues that should be central to at least parts of our opinions on how the political world stage is being played. I will grant that even if everything "they" have claimed were true, the justifications for going to war are thin to none at best. But that is not enough, or ought not be. If "we" are those whom "they" serve, and this is still ostensibly the case, then "we" should be intensely interested in the truth of all these political events if for no other reason than "they" are engaging in mass murder and economic, as well as political pillage on an unprecedented scale. "They" are doing it in
your name. This at least partly the reason that people have flown planes into our office buildings and we now have TSA sticking their thingies up our backsides at the airport.
Do not for a moment believe that we are just the innocent victims of the evil ones. We are that only in part. That we are victims at all is partly due to our lazy and blind acceptance of "their" actions, carried out officially in "our" names. We all need to think about that. We have the blood of millions upon our hands because we pretty well know that what "they" are doing is fucked, yet we have taken no decisive action to stop them. They represent us and we accept it if through no other mechanism than willful default. That places at least some onus upon our shoulders. But what is far and away more practically significant it that the onus rests entirely with us in the minds of a determined enemy. So forget the moral/philosophical argument if you must and focus on the practical side. Your thoughts form your reality. If one believes Americans are the devil's minions, then that is what they are and one will act accordingly and we will have to defend ourselves against them.
This is not to say the blame is 100% ours. It certainly is not, but we do hold a stiff proportion of it.
Our focus should be on bring the troops home from all these needless wars, not bickering over non-issues.
Devil is in the details. So long as the people sufficiently buy the terrorist fairy tale, there will be sufficient power to keep the troops where they are, all else equal. Proving that Bin Laden had been dead for years prior would open a great can of worms with which "they" would have to then deal, so do not be so rash in dismissing the significance of this little turn of history. Granted, it is not terribly likely that the truth will ever be made clear. It may well be that they just got lucky and offed the bastard. It may not. We do not know what to believe because "they" have been caught in lie after lie, and as the old saying goes, "fool me once, shame on you..." and so on. Not just that, but "they" have done an incalculably poor PR job, if we are to grant they are telling the truth in general. It is difficult to believe that so many people - persons basically running the world as the official story goes - are so fathomlessly inept and stupid as to have proceeded as they have over the past several decades with respect to countless bungled political dealings. Recall Gulf War version 1.0? What would possess anyone to stop short of locating Hussein and permanently removing him as a threat, assuming he indeed was that?
Either these people are dumber than donuts or they are up to something that is not being published.
Trying to spread this idea that the official story is not true is not a smart idea.
From a standpoint of pure pragmatism, you may be right. But if we become pure pragmatists, then we are no different than the progressive/liberal vermin who'd sell their own sisters into prostitution and screw their own daddies if it got them what they wanted. I'd rather lose than stoop to that level of existence.
Even if they lied through their teeth, it really does not matter at this point.
Once again, this is painfully misguided thinking. It matters for any of a number of reasons, not the least of which being the inuring of the public to the lies told them. This is perhaps the most dangerous aspect of it. As the callouses build, the lies become less onerous and more acceptable until one day they become accepted truth and people stop caring enough to want to discern truth from lie. If the significance of this escapes you, then I would submit they have already succeeded wildly in your case. The question of veracity is one of the most important and we should be on "them" like stink on rice, and when the great lies are uncovered, those having told them and those having charged them will telling the lies should be locked into small boxes for the rest of their lives. The damage this does to every one of us - to YOU - so very directly, cannot be overstated. Killing you outright would be a lesser crime.
We can sort through the rest of the lies and political garbage that our government tries to give us later after Ron Paul is elected.
And if he is not elected, then what? I pray he makes it, but let us face it that as things stand this very hour, he is not a likely victor. Let us all hope that changes by election day.
Trying to spread that stuff now or during the campaign will only hurt our cause.
If done in the wrong way, you may be right, but also bear in mind that the enemies of liberty know this as well. They will doubtlessly have their provocateurs on task to broadcast and propagate the conspiracy-loon image no matter what the rest of us do. No doubt the media will, if so bid by their masters, take up the cause of assassination to eliminate the Ron Paul hazard.
Your position in this is similar to bailing a rowboat with a thimble in the midst of a hurricane. The deck is very much stacked against us as it is. Broaching the subject in a rational manner is not likely to change the game either way - though a breakthrough in the truth, in fact, might alter the game completely, so I say keep at it.
