Bible mentions NWO why do christains no accept our ideas ?

Because Christianity, unfortunately, my friend, is collectively as corrupt as the government. The message of the bible is pure, but the people who hide behind it are pushing war with the Muslims more than any other societal group.

You need to ask the question of how did Christianity become so corrupt all of a sudden that it self distructed (look at Europe) in a matter of decades.

You have to ask yourself a question if the people that are pushing for war with Muslims are Christians, or are they professing a different faith.

Who has the vested interested in weakining the Christianity and the way of life that was stable for 2000 years up until the last 100 years.

I think you all know who we are talking about.

Look at who runs the Fed, the World Bank, the International Monetary Fund, the International Bank of Settlements - all private banks disguised as Government institutions.

Did you watch the movie The Money Masters?

Do you know that every phone call in USA is being tracked by one international company, and so are the calls in 25 other countries? Read about it here.

Learn the facts and spread the knowledge. This is the real gist of the Ron Paul REVOLUTION.

He may not win the election, but the TRUTH has to get out to as many people as possible.
 
You need to ask the question of how did Christianity become so corrupt all of a sudden that it self distructed (look at Europe) in a matter of decades.

You have to ask yourself a question if the people that are pushing for war with Muslims are Christians, or are they professing a different faith.

Who has the vested interested in weakining the Christianity and the way of life that was stable for 2000 years up until the last 100 years.

I think you all know who we are talking about.

Look at who runs the Fed, the World Bank, the International Monetary Fund, the International Bank of Settlements - all private banks disguised as Government institutions.

Did you watch the movie The Money Masters?

Do you know that every phone call in USA is being tracked by one international company, and so are the calls in 25 other countries? Read about it here.

Learn the facts and spread the knowledge. This is the real gist of the Ron Paul REVOLUTION.

He may not win the election, but the TRUTH has to get out to as many people as possible.


Good post. I fairly young.. 19 and I want to be on Dr. Pauls level of what he knows. ( I doubt I will, but I want to be able to convince people to support him)! Politics have really interested me lately. Whats good literature to read?
 
Hey,
Long time lurker here...obviously this is my first post. I am a born-again Bible believing Christian and an ardent Paulite! You are absolutely right. The entire book of Revelation is dedicated to the End Times. I personally believe that the "Tribulation" is right around the corner and that the Anti-christ will soon come to power, most likely in Europe. Call me a conspiracy theorist, but I also believe that politics and media in America, Europe, and elsewhere are controlled by a ruling elite class. I believe that their ultimate goal is one world government and a false sense of "peace" brought about by force. The Anti-christ comes into play as the leader, the uniter if you will, that will rally an entire world full of "sheep" to the one world government cause, and than will essentially set himself up as dictator. He will also claim to be divine and will mock Christ in many aspects.

As an RP supporter, my hope is that God will spare America from the madness that will engulf the rest of the world, at least for a short time. I believe the destruction of every nation on earth will eventually come about before Christ establishes his 1000 year reign, but the Bible, oddly enough, doesn't mention anything about America when referring to the End Times.

I would not be able to live with myself if I, as a Christian anticipating Christ's return, voted for anyone but Dr. Paul. In doing so, I would be participating in the eventual establishment of the Anti-christ's kingdom. I think Dr. Paul represents America's last gasp at keeping God's blessing that has been bestowed upon her for 200+ years.

It is very frustrating to be a Christian Ron Paul supporter. So many of my fellow believers are sheep. It's like they have blinders over their eyes. They dismiss RP as crazy. I try to point out to them that their beloved Huckabee is a CFR member and just another pawn in this one world government game, but they don't buy it. I have friends that just eat up the fact that Huckabee wears religion on his sleeve and uses the Bible to sell himself to voters. Quite frankly, it makes me want to vomit. I don't believe the man is truly born again. I just can't see how he could be, and still be willing to be used by internationalists.

I'm praying, and I'm praying hard, that we can truly bring about change in this nation that is headed for destruction. There is still "Hope for America" and his name is Ron Paul!!!
 
I know of alot of Christians who also believe in the NWO, but they are preterist Christians, so they don't believe that NWO is the same as antichrist.

Plus, even if the mainstream christians did see the correlation between the NWO and the events in Revelation, they would probably think that there is nothing they can do about it since it is "part of God's Plan" and you can't really stop God from doing what is supposed to happen. Most Christians would feel hopeless and just wait for the Rapture or the second coming of Christ instead of getting out and voting for Ron Paul
 
Hey,
Long time lurker here...obviously this is my first post. I am a born-again Bible believing Christian and an ardent Paulite! You are absolutely right. The entire book of Revelation is dedicated to the End Times. I personally believe that the "Tribulation" is right around the corner and that the Anti-christ will soon come to power, most likely in Europe. Call me a conspiracy theorist, but I also believe that politics and media in America, Europe, and elsewhere are controlled by a ruling elite class. I believe that their ultimate goal is one world government and a false sense of "peace" brought about by force. The Anti-christ comes into play as the leader, the uniter if you will, that will rally an entire world full of "sheep" to the one world government cause, and than will essentially set himself up as dictator. He will also claim to be divine and will mock Christ in many aspects.

As an RP supporter, my hope is that God will spare America from the madness that will engulf the rest of the world, at least for a short time. I believe the destruction of every nation on earth will eventually come about before Christ establishes his 1000 year reign, but the Bible, oddly enough, doesn't mention anything about America when referring to the End Times.

I would not be able to live with myself if I, as a Christian anticipating Christ's return, voted for anyone but Dr. Paul. In doing so, I would be participating in the eventual establishment of the Anti-christ's kingdom. I think Dr. Paul represents America's last gasp at keeping God's blessing that has been bestowed upon her for 200+ years.

It is very frustrating to be a Christian Ron Paul supporter. So many of my fellow believers are sheep. It's like they have blinders over their eyes. They dismiss RP as crazy. I try to point out to them that their beloved Huckabee is a CFR member and just another pawn in this one world government game, but they don't buy it. I have friends that just eat up the fact that Huckabee wears religion on his sleeve and uses the Bible to sell himself to voters. Quite frankly, it makes me want to vomit. I don't believe the man is truly born again. I just can't see how he could be, and still be willing to be used by internationalists.

I'm praying, and I'm praying hard, that we can truly bring about change in this nation that is headed for destruction. There is still "Hope for America" and his name is Ron Paul!!!

Wow what you said is exactley what I've been feeling. The dictator is suppose to rise out Europe.. and our money will be worthless, thus flooding the streets. ( Euro rising.. dollar declining) We need to figure out how we can reach out to the christians and point this out! This has been bothering me for awhile now.
 
Because they are NEO-"[c]hristians" and NOT Christian. Those HUGE bible belt MEGA churches that support people like Huckabee is NOT CHRISTIANITY!!!!!

If you wanna hear a REAL Christians point of view and what is happening to the "church" and it's followers, read THIS article by pastor Chuck Baldwin, fellow Ron Paul supporter, about the so called church and how it compares to the beginning of the Third Reich in Germany as hitler came to power. It is EXACTLY WHAT IS HAPPENING TODAY!!!!!!!
We Desperately Need The "Confessing Church"
by Chuck Baldwin
January 4, 2008



If the reader has not already done so, I again urge you to read the book, Hitler's Cross, which was written by Erwin Lutzer and published by Moody Press. This book should be "required reading" for every pastor and Christian layman in America. In his book, Lutzer focuses on the attitudes and actions of Germany's pastors and churches during the rise and reign of the Third Reich. It is a masterpiece.

For those of us living in a country and time far removed from Hitler's Germany, it is hard to comprehend how that nation's Christians--and especially its ministers--could have been so thoroughly taken in by old Adolf. We assume such an event could never happen again--especially to us. However, to any honest observer of history, the conditions of the Church in America today are eerily similar to those of the Church in Nazi Germany.

For one thing, as did the Church in Nazi Germany, the Church in America has become infatuated with Big Government. Historically, patriotism in the United States meant love for God, love for family, and love for freedom and independence. Today, however, Christians of all persuasions have come to accept and even embrace the Nanny State, complete with its intrinsic obsession with an omnipotent federal bureaucracy that exercises perpetual surveillance and absolute control over every area of our lives.

For example, according to today's Republican Presidential candidates (with the exception of Ron Paul), patriotism demands that we click our heels to the Department of Homeland Security and that we enthusiastically support aggressive, preemptive war. This is exactly the kind of redefinition of patriotism used so brilliantly by Hitler and his fellow propagandists. Yes, Martha, it appears that history really does repeat itself.

When Ron Paul was asked about Mike Huckabee's overt usage of a cross for a campaign advertisement, he quoted Sinclair Lewis as saying, "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross." Many Christians railed against Dr. Paul for making this comment. However, the truth is, Ron Paul (himself a committed Christian) is one hundred percent right! (To see how Hitler used this same tactic, I invite readers to note the photograph of the German Fuhrer in Lutzer's book, on page 75, which shows Hitler coming out of church with a large emblem of the Cross directly over his head. This photo was used extensively by Hitler during his political campaigns.)

More than any other Republican Presidential candidate, Mike Huckabee carries his Big Government machinations on a cross. I strongly recommend that readers take a look at Selwyn Duke's excellent exposé on Mike Huckabee at http://www.newswithviews.com/Duke/selwyn79.htm

In his book, Lutzer notes that the tool Adolf Hitler used to ascend to power in Germany was his ability to wrap the Nazi flag around the Cross of Christ. In fact, Hitler often required that the Cross be emblazoned directly in the middle of the Nazi flag. These flags were not only prominently displayed in parades, but also in church auditoriums.

As a result of Hitler's brilliant deception, Christians throughout Germany were convinced that he was "God's man." They saw him as more than a political leader: he was a spiritual leader as well. They saw him as their country's President and as their Christian brother. If Hitler said the German people needed to surrender their firearms, they saw it as their Christian duty to comply; if Hitler said they needed to enact a total surveillance society, they freely gave up their privacy; if Hitler said Germany needed to invade other nations for its security, Christians were among the first to volunteer; and if Hitler said they could only be good Christians if they supported the Nazi Party, they enthusiastically supported the Nazi Party.

In short, Germany's Christians and pastors surrendered their hearts and minds to Adolf Hitler, because they believed him to be one of them. What they never would have surrendered to a professing agnostic, they gladly surrendered to a professing Christian. Truly, fascism came to Germany "wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross."

Of course, there were a few in Germany who saw through Hitler's deception. Dietrich Bonhoeffer was a Christian minister who actively opposed Hitler by organizing what he called the "Confessing Church." These were believers who would not surrender Christ's sphere of authority to Hitler. They saw through "Hitler's Cross." Unfortunately, of the more than 14,000 pastors in Germany, only 800 joined with Bonhoeffer.

To the vast majority of Germany's pastors, Bonhoeffer was an "extremist," or a "kook," or a "nut." They relegated Bonhoeffer to the fringe of Christendom. They believed Hitler and repudiated Bonhoeffer; they chose Hitler's "German Church" over the Confessing Church. In retrospect, however, who would they follow today, if they had the chance?

Likewise, many Christians and ministers today have succumbed to the purveyors of internationalism. Issues such as trade, climate control, health and education--and even war--are the tools globalists use to contruct their One World Order.

For example, Mike Huckabee's success in Iowa is largely due to the pastors and Christians of that State buying into his "Christian" campaign. In a manner very similar to the 2000 campaign of George W. Bush, Huckabee has carried his political campaign on the Cross. At the same time, however, Mike Huckabee (as does George W. Bush) embraces and promotes globalism. And, unfortunately, many Christians and pastors do not seem to notice or care.

In a previous column (See it here: http://www.chuckbaldwinlive.com/c2007/cbarchive_20071207.html ), I wrote this:

"Have you wondered why Mike Huckabee is suddenly getting so much favorable attention from the mainstream media (who themselves are controlled by this gaggle of global elite)? To find the answer as to why a professing pro-life, conservative Christian would suddenly become the darling of the media, look no further than the fact that just a couple of months ago, Mr. Huckabee appeared before the globalist-minded Council on Foreign Relations. (Read his speech here: http://www.cfr.org/publication/14335/ ) And when he did, it became abundantly clear that Huckabee was a man globalists could trust.

"By the way, as you read Huckabee's speech, you will find that he is George W. Bush on steroids! This is a man who intends to meddle in the affairs of nations around the world like you can't believe. Talk about entangling alliances: Huckabee intends for our State, Energy, Housing, Education, Justice, Treasury, and Transportation departments to spend untold billions of tax dollars on just about anything and everything, including schools, medical facilities, roads, sewage treatment, water filtration, electricity, and legal and banking systems in countries all over the globe. And that is exactly the kind of man the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) wants in Washington."

After reporting the connection between Mike Huckabee and the CFR, numerous Christians quickly consigned my soul to the regions of the damned and accused me of being a "nut." Some emphatically declared that I had no right to criticize "a Christian brother." Now, who does that sound like?

More importantly, however, is the question, Were my remarks accurate? And the answer is, Yes, they were.

We now learn that Mike Huckabee has named Richard Haass as his advisor on foreign policy. And just who is Richard Haass? He is the President of the CFR. And what does Haass believe? He believes that the United States (and every other country) must surrender its sovereignty to international or global entities. On February 21, 2006, Haass wrote a column for the Taipei Times entitled, "State Sovereignty Must be Altered in Globalized Era." This treatise is nothing more than an explicit solicitation for global government. (Read it here: http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/editorials/archives/2006/02/21/2003294021 )

In his treatise, Haass writes, "For 350 years, sovereignty--the notion that states are the central actors on the world stage and that governments are essentially free to do what they want within their own territory but not within the territory of other states--has provided the organizing principle of international relations. The time has come to rethink this notion."

He also wrote, "Moreover, states must be prepared to cede some sovereignty to world bodies if the international system is to function."

He went on to say, "overeignty must be redefined if states are to cope with globalization."

He further said, "Globalization thus implies that sovereignty is not only becoming weaker in reality, but that it needs to become weaker. States would be wise to weaken sovereignty in order to protect themselves . . . Sovereignty is no longer a sanctuary."

Haass also wrote, "Our notion of sovereignty must therefore be conditional, even contractual, rather than absolute."

Haass then summarized his desire for global government by saying, "The goal should be to redefine sovereignty for the era of globalization, to find a balance between a world of fully sovereign states and an international system of either world government or anarchy."

These are the sentiments of the man that the "Christian conservative" Mike Huckabee has chosen to be his foreign policy advisor. Can you not see how, once again, a global government elitist wraps his Big Government ambitions around the Cross of Jesus Christ?

We desperately need Bonhoeffer's "Confessing Church" in America. If pastors do not quickly wake up to the way most of our politicians--even those who profess to be Christians--are selling out America's sovereignty and independence, our wonderful country will not long survive.

I have attempted to resurrect the "Confessing Church" in the form of a 21st Century "Black Regiment." Students of U.S. history recognize the "Black Regiment" as those Colonial Patriot-Pastors who led their churches to assist the efforts of America's fight for independence. Currently, we have over 100 pastors, evangelists, and missionaries listed on our Black Regiment directory.

See the Black Regiment directory here: http://www.chuckbaldwinlive.com/blackregiment.php

I, once again, encourage readers to buy Lutzer's book, Hitler's Cross. I'm praying that this time there will arise an army of Dietrich Bonhoeffers to lead a modern-day revival of true patriotism: love for God, love for family, and a strong love and commitment to freedom and independence. Call it the "Confessing Church," or the "Black Regiment." Call it what you will: we need it desperately, and we need it now.

*If you enjoyed this column and want to help me distribute these editorial opinions to an ever-growing audience, please send your check or Money Order to:

Chuck Baldwin Live
P.O. Box 37070
Pensacola, Florida 32526
 
Good post. I fairly young.. 19 and I want to be on Dr. Pauls level of what he knows. ( I doubt I will, but I want to be able to convince people to support him)! Politics have really interested me lately. Whats good literature to read?


Watch The Money Masters on Google.

Go to major Banks websites and see who is at the helm, find a trend.

That is a start.
 
I realize one thing. Just because something is going to happen no matter what you do, it doesn't mean you shouldn't fight it. If an antichrist will come into power, would you really be willing to say you were on the sidelines? Of course not, which is why I don't understand some christians. As for christians being sheep, I think it's probably equally true outside of the christian circle as well.

Matthew 11:16-19"How can I account for this generation? The people have been like spoiled children whining to their parents, 'We wanted to skip rope, and you were always too tired; we wanted to talk, but you were always too busy.' John came fasting and they called him crazy. I came feasting and they called me a lush, a friend of the riffraff. Opinion polls don't count for much, do they? The proof of the pudding is in the eating."
 
Watch The Money Masters on Google.

Go to major Banks websites and see who is at the helm, find a trend.

That is a start.

watching that right now. Thanks guys for the support. We all dont need to forget we are here for one reason. It's nice to have something like this. Feels like family. :)
 
Hey,
Long time lurker here...obviously this is my first post. I am a born-again Bible believing Christian and an ardent Paulite! You are absolutely right. The entire book of Revelation is dedicated to the End Times. I personally believe that the "Tribulation" is right around the corner and that the Anti-christ will soon come to power, most likely in Europe. Call me a conspiracy theorist, but I also believe that politics and media in America, Europe, and elsewhere are controlled by a ruling elite class. I believe that their ultimate goal is one world government and a false sense of "peace" brought about by force. The Anti-christ comes into play as the leader, the uniter if you will, that will rally an entire world full of "sheep" to the one world government cause, and than will essentially set himself up as dictator. He will also claim to be divine and will mock Christ in many aspects.

As an RP supporter, my hope is that God will spare America from the madness that will engulf the rest of the world, at least for a short time. I believe the destruction of every nation on earth will eventually come about before Christ establishes his 1000 year reign, but the Bible, oddly enough, doesn't mention anything about America when referring to the End Times.

I would not be able to live with myself if I, as a Christian anticipating Christ's return, voted for anyone but Dr. Paul. In doing so, I would be participating in the eventual establishment of the Anti-christ's kingdom. I think Dr. Paul represents America's last gasp at keeping God's blessing that has been bestowed upon her for 200+ years.

It is very frustrating to be a Christian Ron Paul supporter. So many of my fellow believers are sheep. It's like they have blinders over their eyes. They dismiss RP as crazy. I try to point out to them that their beloved Huckabee is a CFR member and just another pawn in this one world government game, but they don't buy it. I have friends that just eat up the fact that Huckabee wears religion on his sleeve and uses the Bible to sell himself to voters. Quite frankly, it makes me want to vomit. I don't believe the man is truly born again. I just can't see how he could be, and still be willing to be used by internationalists.

I'm praying, and I'm praying hard, that we can truly bring about change in this nation that is headed for destruction. There is still "Hope for America" and his name is Ron Paul!!!

Wow stallion.
You are definitely not a Troll.
Welcome aboard!!
 
Watch The Money Masters on Google.

Go to major Banks websites and see who is at the helm, find a trend.

That is a start.

I agree with you there. Can't say it out loud lest you be stoned, but if you follow the money and do the research you will see who is going to place the beast in the temple and commit the abomination of desolation.
Not at all who people generally would think is it?
 
I agree with you there. Can't say it out loud lest you be stoned, but if you follow the money and do the research you will see who is going to place the beast in the temple and commit the abomination of desolation.
Not at all who people generally would think is it?

This whole election is a sham, a show for those who don't yet know the truth. The reality is the Democracy was abolished a while ago. There is not a single government in the West that is not controlled.

There will be no peaceful resolution of this. It is either slavery or armed revolt.
 
Speaking as a conservative, evangelical Christian, I can tell you that the majority of evangelical Christians default to the belief that going to war and blindly following this President are part and parcel to being a Christian.

But as a matter of fact, any Bible-believing Christian, who believes the message of Romans 13, should know that the God-ordained and established law of this land is the Constitution, which establishes the lawful boundaries of federal civil government. And any leader or representative who acts contrary to the Constitution rejects the authority of God and condemns himself. America has become a lawless nation and by their refusal to hold their leaders to account, Americans invite God's judgment. Christians must cry out for leaders who will uphold the Constitution for it is the God-ordained and established law of the land to which our leaders and representatives must submit.

Congressman Paul is the only candidate in this race who Bible-believing Christians can vote for.
 
Speaking as a conservative, evangelical Christian, I can tell you that the majority of evangelical Christians default to the belief that going to war and blindly following this President are part and parcel to being a Christian.

But as a matter of fact, any Bible-believing Christian, who believes the message of Romans 13, should know that the God-ordained and established law of this land is the Constitution, which establishes the lawful boundaries of federal civil government. And any leader or representative who acts contrary to the Constitution rejects the authority of God and condemns himself. America has become a lawless nation and by their refusal to hold their leaders to account, Americans invite God's judgment. Christians must cry out for leaders who will uphold the Constitution for it is the God-ordained and established law of the land to which our leaders and representatives must submit.

Congressman Paul is the only candidate in this race who Bible-believing Christians can vote for.

Amen.. I pledge to uphold the constitution. Who's with me?
 
The Bible also says children who misbehave should be stoned to death in the public square, and that trimming your beard is a sin.

I like the Bible, but I take what I read in there with a grain of salt.

The Levitical laws you cite were peculiar to God's covenant with the Israelites through Moses at Sinai.

Whereas we live under God's new covenant established through Christ and are not bound by the terms of the covenant at Sinai.
 
Speaking as a conservative, evangelical Christian, I can tell you that the majority of evangelical Christians default to the belief that going to war and blindly following this President are part and parcel to being a Christian.

But as a matter of fact, any Bible-believing Christian, who believes the message of Romans 13, should know that the God-ordained and established law of this land is the Constitution, which establishes the lawful boundaries of federal civil government. And any leader or representative who acts contrary to the Constitution rejects the authority of God and condemns himself. America has become a lawless nation and by their refusal to hold their leaders to account, Americans invite God's judgment. Christians must cry out for leaders who will uphold the Constitution for it is the God-ordained and established law of the land to which our leaders and representatives must submit.

Congressman Paul is the only candidate in this race who Bible-believing Christians can vote for.

I agree. I'm in a church of around a 1000. i'm debating speaking in front of them, and leaving them with one question: should we be following the president or the constitution?
 
I wonder if people voting for Obama realize that we'll probably end up with Hillary as a VP?
 
I agree. I'm in a church of around a 1000. i'm debating speaking in front of them, and leaving them with one question: should we be following the president or the constitution?

That would be amazing. If you do, and it goes well, you should consider making a recording available somewhere. A faithful understanding of the role of Constitutional government in this nation in the context of Romans 13 is deeply empowering.

In a time when Christians are increasingly throwing their support behind liberal social movements in an effort to regain relevance, only to find themselves increasingly divided and marginalized, the Biblical message of return to God-ordained and established Constitutional civil government, is a message Christians can and must unite behind.
 
I'm working on somethings to say. When I'm done I will definitely post on here for help and correction.

definitely using this:

Matthew 7:15-20
"Be wary of false preachers who smile a lot, dripping with practiced sincerity. Chances are they are out to rip you off some way or other. Don't be impressed with charisma; look for character. Who preachers are is the main thing, not what they say. A genuine leader will never exploit your emotions or your pocketbook. These diseased trees with their bad apples are going to be chopped down and burned."
and just a few verses later:28-29
"When Jesus concluded his address, the crowd burst into applause. They had never heard teaching like this. It was apparent that he was living everything he was saying—quite a contrast to their religion teachers! This was the best teaching they had ever heard."
 
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