Benton suggests Romney Campaign involved with Caucus Cancellation

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/romney-end-losing-streak-maine-15561379

Maine's caucuses began Feb. 4 and continued throughout the week. Several communities elected to hold their caucuses at a later date.
Caucuses in Washington County that had been scheduled for Saturday were postponed until Feb. 18 because of a major snowstorm that blanketed the region. Earlier, party Executive Director Michael Quatrano said county officials had been told the results of that caucus would not count toward the total.
But Washington County GOP Chairman Chris Gardner objected, saying he had known his county's tally wouldn't be included in Saturday's announcement but didn't realize it wouldn't be counted at all. He said he had called state party leaders and "expressed my complete and utter dismay."
Gardner, a Romney supporter, said the snowstorm had left him no choice but to postpone the caucuses.
"Refusal to reconsider under those circumstances would be extremely disheartening," he told The Associated Press. "I trust that the party will make the right decision here."
He added, "We will proceed next Saturday. We'll have our vote and we are going to submit it to the state party for them to reconsider."
Many Paul supporters were angry.
"There's a very good chance that you'll find that Washington County goes for Ron Paul," said Mark Willis, a county coordinator for the Paul campaign.

His wife, Violet, added, "We don't want to be disenfranchised."
Webster told reporters there were less than 200 votes in Washington County and he doubted that including them would have changed the outcome.
Speaking to supporters in Portland, Paul expressed disappointment that only a portion of the state's caucuses had counted toward the total.
"I wish all the caucuses had met today," Paul said, adding, "It's almost like we could call it a tie."
Romney was attending a fundraiser in California late Saturday, after visiting caucus sites in Maine earlier in the day, where he pressed voters for their backing.
"I thank the voters of Maine for their support," Romney said in a statement late Saturday. "I'm committed to turning around America. And I'm heartened to have the support of so many good people in this great state."
Romney visited two caucus sites Saturday after abandoning plans to take the day off. The change made clear that his campaign could ill-afford another loss.
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FILE - In this Jan. 23, 2012 file photo, Republican presidential candidates, Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, right, and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney share a laugh during a break in a Republican presidential debate at the University of South Florida in Tampa, Fla. Romney and Paul rarely acknowledge each other in the Republican presidential race, focusing their attention and attacks on rivals Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum instead. That curious detente will be tested in Maine's caucuses Saturday, where Romney's reputation as a political shape shifter is set to go head-to-head with Paul's quirky but consistent set of libertarian beliefs.

Romney also held a town hall-style meeting in Maine on Friday night. It was the first time he'd taken voter questions since campaigning in South Carolina last month.
Maine's nonbinding presidential straw poll had drawn virtually none of the hype surrounding recent contests in Florida and Nevada, where candidates poured millions of dollars into television and radio advertising.
Romney's campaign had placed only a small cable television ad buy airing Friday and Saturday, at a cost of several thousand dollars. But he sent surrogates to the state in recent days and hosted a telephone town hall in addition to Friday's campaign stop.
Romney consistently declined to criticize Paul, however.
Instead, he lobbed indirect criticism at Santorum, a former Pennsylvania senator, and Gingrich, a former House speaker, by repeating intensifying rhetoric of recent days that paints them as tainted Washington insiders.
"I have never spent a day in Washington working," Romney said. "I expect to go there, get it fixed and then go home."
He added, "In my home with my mom and dad I learned conservative values. In my faith I learned conservative values. And in my business."

Romney won 11 delegates in Maine and Texas Rep. Ron Paul won 10, according to an analysis by The Associated Press. Former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich were shut out.
 
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We probably will have fewer votes next week than if Washington was today, but our margin will probably be greater, exceeding 194 votes. After all, why would Romney supporters show up next week when they think he already won?
 
OK here are the facts: Iowan and Nevada had votes held at the last minute. Deals were cut to allow anyone but Paul to win. The media said as much over and over: "Ron Paul will not be allowed to win anything". I'm sure you've heard them say that in the press many times.

Even tho a caucus is non binding you saw how important it was for Romney to win a state in his own backyard especially since he lost three times to Santorum. So they stole the vote for Romney cuz he "needed" it. The fact that Mitt Romney would allow MaineGOP to fudge the totals at the last last minute shows TOTAL lack of integrity by BOTH & why he won't EVER be POTUS and why we are leaving the GOP in droves.

My theory after copying the charts yesterday and today that do not add up? Romney was reported to have met with GOP leaders last night when the vote totals were sitting at 42% for Paul and 33% for him and he was about to face an abysmal loss by 9%....and they agreed to fudge. Now I am told this is TRUE... Romney people cut a DEAL with the Maine GOP who controls the process.

If they don't want you to be a delegate they can stop you too, because some of you have already experienced that. So in states that don't have a one person = one vote primary, the potential for this fraud is great. 3% is a respectable lead so they agreed to let Paul have 36% and Romney 39% EVEN THOUGH THE VOTE TOTALS DID NOT CHANGE FROM THE DAY BEFORE ENOUGH TO GIVE ROMNEY 400 MORE VOTES THAT HE NEEDED TO GET AHEAD OF PAUL. I have before and after pics of the charts.

It's fixed and even when Paul IS winning, that perception must not be allowed so the 'he can't win' meme will be reinforced.


Lemme see if I can't figure out how to post them here.. Look at both... tell me, what changed between yesterday and today to give Mitt the 184 he needed to surpass Ron, and then 194 beyond that???? It is impossible... and the same areas that did not vote, are not going to be counted either because Wa Cty likely as an outlier would go to Ron. Mitt only won TWO and not by enough to matter!

Last night ...
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Today after 6 PM:
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The 16 county totals are exactly the same in the 2 spreadsheets: Paul = 798, Romney=614.

The State totals at the top have gone up from (Paul, Romney) = (798,614) to (Romney, Paul) = (2190,1996), the latter being the totals reported by the GOP. And the vote lead at the bottom went up to reflect the new State totals.

So the 16 county totals in the spreadsheet were not updated after "last night", but the state totals were: Romney got + 1,576 votes, and Paul got + 1,198 votes.

So as has been discussed, there was some monkey business going on, but without more info, I don't see what these 2 spreadsheets prove. Maybe more Paul-leaning precincts were sampled in "last nights" 16 county spreadsheet results.
 
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Does that mean he has to give up his Senate bid if he becomes the nominee? Which might prevent him from running?
Technically, no. both kerry and edwards were re-elected as senators when they ran together in 2004. However, rand's path to reelectionmight not be as easy as theirs.
 
Before people get the tar and feathers ready for Gardner, it's worth remembering that Wayne Terhune (who led the rump convention and delegation in Nevada in 2008) was not a Ron Paul supporter. Just a local GOP participant that was disgusted by what he'd witnessed.

Maybe Gardner and Webster are washing each other's hands. Or maybe Gardner feels caught in the vice right now.

County chairs are unpaid positions that involve significant personal time. Maybe Webster is willing to gamble with his politicial future by "delivering this" for Romney, but if Gardner is like most county chairs, he's got his sights on winning a local office someday. (County commission, statehouse or something.) He's going to be more nervous about appearing to suppress the vote.

Will be interesting to hear what the locals have to report back over the next few days, and they sound him out in private.
 
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Gardner

Remember Gardner was the one saying that they did not realize the votes wouldn't count. He doesn't seem like an accomplice in this.
 
Remember Gardner was the one saying that they did not realize the votes wouldn't count. He doesn't seem like an accomplice in this.

No. He is accomplice. He was part of it. Only question is is he that stupid not to know what is happening or he knew what is happening and agreed with it.
 
Hopefully enough people remember this next Saturday and vote for Paul. The campaign should runs ads even if just for Washington County which would cost about $3 per :30 ad. (seriously)

If it's that cheap why leave it to the campaign? Let's run the damned ads.
 
If it's that cheap why leave it to the campaign? Let's run the damned ads.

The campaign has said that commercials are something that the grassroots are welcome to do on their own, they just discouraged direct mail and other tactics.
LETS DO THIS.

edit: heck I'll chip in $30 and cover ten ads myself by the end of the day if we can get this organized.
We also need to get some ads running on google and facebook as well as grassroots organization on the ground, etc.
 
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I pledge $100 for any Ron Paul supporter in Washington county that needs help to ensure that the citizens of that county get to vote and their votes are counted.
PM me your plan and I'll help with what I can. I live in California, but I assure you, right now I want to drive all the way to Maine!
 
Remember Gardner was the one saying that they did not realize the votes wouldn't count. He doesn't seem like an accomplice in this.

Any person complicit in cancelling a caucus the night before the tallies will be reported by national media is absolutely complicit in the shenanigans.
 
So... Washington county had no problem for the Girl Scouts holding their meeting in this so-called "major snowstorm"... but this shows you the fraud of the state(.gov).

Electioneering, creating new caucuses for the purpose to steal delegates and stack the deck of votes of one candidate. Cancelling Caucuses under bullshit excuses like 3 inches of snow in the state of Maine during the winter. WTF, I mean, when was it that a political party can now deny voters, cities, counties and other politicking across the state? Then the MaineGOP, ruling: not to count anymore caucuses/votes conducted across the state this next week, nor any makeups for missed votes.

This is downright fraudulent, ruling a winner with 84% of the vote? Stalin was sooooooo correct!

Here's 2008 GOP totals for Washington county, MAINE Only 113 people voted in the entire county.

BUT! There's 33,000 people in Washington county, ME. I' sure there are 200 Ron Paul supporters minimum.

DEMO: http://www.city-data.com/county/Washington_County-ME.html

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Linda Bean, heiress to LL Bean Inc. and the number one supporter of Ron Paul needs to make a strong statement on the Maine caucus .

Contact her office in Maine. She needs to step up and then the media will take notice.
 
Linda Bean, heiress to LL Bean Inc. and the number one supporter of Ron Paul needs to make a strong statement on the Maine caucus .

Contact her office in Maine. She needs to step up and then the media will take notice.
yes, forgot all about BEAN. We could buy their BEAN clothing to reciprocate.
 
yes, forgot all about BEAN. We could buy their BEAN clothing to reciprocate.


It would be unwise to MAKE THAT OFFER to her, however.

What is the connection between L.L. Bean and Voter Fraud, or is she "only" Deep Pockets? If so, you can probably only hit her up ONCE beyond what SHE elected to give without alienating her. Unless she is a Rabid Fan.

Put Ron Paul on a back emotional burner for a sec. AMERICA must address voter fraud. Speaking of things we can't afford, we cannot afford for our elections to become LAUGHINGSTOCKS. Academics (however much you hate them) and ACLU (however much you hate them) and the people of Maine (& Iowa &&&) whose votes didn't get counted should, and I believe COULD, be herded into some Moral Outrage.

If the issue is legitimate, if there IS Voter Fraud, and if it IS at Ron Paul's expense, it will be as APPARENT, like Racism is made apparent by prison statistics.

Electoral integrity, accurate counting, these are bigger than Ron Paul. If they are not framed as being ABOUT Ron Paul, more people WILL be interested because more people than Ron Paul Supporters ARE impacted.

Separate little spin-off ground game.

Ron Paul HAD his chance to lower the boom, in his Maine speech. He ALLUDED to it, without GOING FOR IT.

This path of action can be handled by Ron Paul Grassroots WITHOUT broadcasting Ron Paul. It should not be done by The Campaign AT ALL, unless Ron Paul registers (stern, not sing-song-y) objection AT THE TIME.

Yes, I KNOW about the bias and the blacking out and the "technical difficulties" and the dead voters and and and. Doesn't matter. For Ron Paul or the Campaign or his Supporters to object so steadily invites the SOUR GRAPES and WHINER cards.

Look no further than the Mideast to know that TPTB not only get others to do their fighting for them, they get 'em to ENLIST.
 
The only leverage RP has over Romney is the threat to bolt the GOP. By not using this leverage in regards to the caucus vote, then essentially he's giving up winning the straw vote in hope he'll get his delegates through to the national convention. We'll see if that happens. Four years ago the Maine GOP shut us out completely.
 
Linda Bean, heiress to LL Bean Inc. and the number one supporter of Ron Paul needs to make a strong statement on the Maine caucus .

Contact her office in Maine. She needs to step up and then the media will take notice.

this makes good sense
 
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