Benton suggests Romney Campaign involved with Caucus Cancellation

[unknown]

OK here are the facts: Iowan and Nevada had votes held at the last minute. Deals were cut to allow anyone but Paul to win. The media said as much over and over: "Ron Paul will not be allowed to win anything". I'm sure you've heard them say that in the press many times.

Even tho a caucus is non binding you saw how important it was for Romney to win a state in his own backyard especially since he lost three times to Santorum. So they stole the vote for Romney cuz he "needed" it. The fact that Mitt Romney would allow MaineGOP to fudge the totals at the last last minute shows TOTAL lack of integrity by BOTH & why he won't EVER be POTUS and why we are leaving the GOP in droves.

My theory after copying the charts yesterday and today that do not add up? Romney was reported to have met with GOP leaders last night when the vote totals were sitting at 42% for Paul and 33% for him and he was about to face an abysmal loss by 9%....and they agreed to fudge. Now I am told this is TRUE... Romney people cut a DEAL with the Maine GOP who controls the process.

If they don't want you to be a delegate they can stop you too, because some of you have already experienced that. So in states that don't have a one person = one vote primary, the potential for this fraud is great. 3% is a respectable lead so they agreed to let Paul have 36% and Romney 39% EVEN THOUGH THE VOTE TOTALS DID NOT CHANGE FROM THE DAY BEFORE ENOUGH TO GIVE ROMNEY 400 MORE VOTES THAT HE NEEDED TO GET AHEAD OF PAUL. I have before and after pics of the charts.

It's fixed and even when Paul IS winning, that perception must not be allowed so the 'he can't win' meme will be reinforced.


Lemme see if I can't figure out how to post them here.. Look at both... tell me, what changed between yesterday and today to give Mitt the 184 he needed to surpass Ron, and then 194 beyond that???? It is impossible... and the same areas that did not vote, are not going to be counted either because Wa Cty likely as an outlier would go to Ron. Mitt only won TWO and not by enough to matter!

Last night ...

Today after 6 PM:

F*ckin a.

 

[wgadget]

It all seems to be very arbitrary. And bizarre.

 

[Vanilluxe]

OK here are the facts: Iowan and Nevada had votes held at the last minute. Deals were cut to allow anyone but Paul to win. The media said as much over and over: "Ron Paul will not be allowed to win anything". I'm sure you've heard them say that in the press many times.

Even tho a caucus is non binding you saw how important it was for Romney to win a state in his own backyard especially since he lost three times to Santorum. So they stole the vote for Romney cuz he "needed" it. The fact that Mitt Romney would allow MaineGOP to fudge the totals at the last last minute shows TOTAL lack of integrity by BOTH & why he won't EVER be POTUS and why we are leaving the GOP in droves.

My theory after copying the charts yesterday and today that do not add up? Romney was reported to have met with GOP leaders last night when the vote totals were sitting at 42% for Paul and 33% for him and he was about to face an abysmal loss by 9%....and they agreed to fudge. Now I am told this is TRUE... Romney people cut a DEAL with the Maine GOP who controls the process.

If they don't want you to be a delegate they can stop you too, because some of you have already experienced that. So in states that don't have a one person = one vote primary, the potential for this fraud is great. 3% is a respectable lead so they agreed to let Paul have 36% and Romney 39% EVEN THOUGH THE VOTE TOTALS DID NOT CHANGE FROM THE DAY BEFORE ENOUGH TO GIVE ROMNEY 400 MORE VOTES THAT HE NEEDED TO GET AHEAD OF PAUL. I have before and after pics of the charts.

It's fixed and even when Paul IS winning, that perception must not be allowed so the 'he can't win' meme will be reinforced.


Lemme see if I can't figure out how to post them here.. Look at both... tell me, what changed between yesterday and today to give Mitt the 184 he needed to surpass Ron, and then 194 beyond that???? It is impossible... and the same areas that did not vote, are not going to be counted either because Wa Cty likely as an outlier would go to Ron. Mitt only won TWO and not by enough to matter!

Last night ...

Today after 6 PM:

We should have a separate thread on this, it could be viable and crucial evidence which the campaign can use.

 

[Karsten]

Wow! This is the worst case of vote fraud I've ever seen... and we've seen a lot in the past few years.

 

[Karsten]

Holy shit they just switched Ron Paul's and Romney's numbers!

 

[alucard13mmfmj]

Imma write in Ron Paul.. I suggest everyone do the same to show them how many republican votes they couldve gotten if Ron wouldve been the nominee. What are they gonna do? Blame us? lolololz. Show them how many votes that they missed out on in the general election =P

 

[jolynna]

I'm with this camp too! I say IF Ron Paul isn't the one that's going to be repealing OBAMA CARE, then the GOP shouldn't be ALLOWED out of this pickle and let them suffer for the folly of the charade they are pulling. I like the NOBP concept, but maybe NOBP or CHOKE ON OBAMA CARE will be understood much better by the establishment electorate! I say the looming threat of Obama Care is a golden opportunity to hold them hostage and feet to the fire, but I guess this is too negative to actually consider while the establishment black balls the entire process

I seriously don't think that ANY of the GOP candidates other than Ron Paul would be an improvement over Obama.

They might even be worse.

They are certainly more hawkish on war. Every ONE of them.

Romney has a special place in my heart because he smiles when he betrays and back stabs. He can turn his "I promise not to" convictions 180 degrees in the blink of an eye. I'll never forget the video where he sincerely promised the pro-choice ladies he meant what he said only to renege as soon as he decided to run for GOP president. Right after that, there he was, on ANOTHER video, JUST as sincerely espousing his changed stance. Exchanging Obama with Romney is exchanging one hypocrite liar for another.

Neither man has any moral core

Ending up with Obama, when they are EXACTLY LIKE OBAMA on every single issue...war, expanding military spending, NO suggestion for reducing deposit or clue about how to balance budget, supporting Obama on his assault of civil liberties and human rights...loses some of its threat value.

It is like saying "Don't vote for Ron Paul because the Iranians who do not have an army, navy or air force are preparing for all out war and Ron Paul being commander-in-chief would be dangerous because of the Iranians"

Pffffftttt... iRidiculous fear-mongering, propaganda that isn't even rational. There are people with CIA and military experience in high places that say Ron Paul is absolutely right. But only a FEW reasonable and rational people like Neil Cavuto, John Stossel or the Judge (who we lost probably due to his honest and correct assessments) interview people who AGREE with Ron Paul about foreign policy. You've got to dig on you.tube to know THOSE opinions exist.

NO GOP candidate, other than Ron Paul, offers ANYTHING positive other than NOT being Obama. I am fed up with Obama. I, for sure, won't validate what he offers by choosing someone else who promises MORE of the same except being a GOP. What a farce!

I'd rather cut off my hand than support ANY of them (including Obama) with my vote.

 

[carterm]

i'm a little confused by this spreadsheet comparison. someone want to help me out?

 

[Vanilluxe]

i'm a little confused by this spreadsheet comparison. someone want to help me out?

They switched the winning Ron Paul votes with the Romney votes for most of the counties to give him a victory

 

[wgadget]

They switched the labels on Columns B and C, from Ron Paul to Romney. Numbers stayed the same. Fishy.

Actually it looks like they completely left off the labels on the second chart, but they're calling Romney the winner.

 

[Karsten]

They switched the winning Ron Paul votes with the Romney votes for most of the counties to give him a victory

Possible, but how did they come up with the higher overall vote totals?

 

[alucard13mmfmj]

So the campaign is aware of this? When are they going to blare the horns and raise hell? Excuse my language but FCUK the Romney and Ron Paul truce. Ron Paul should not continue with this truce... not after he got screwed in Maine. I think Ron should attack the front runner, even if its romney, to prevent them from gaining too much momentum. I think most of us is sick of the truce.

 

[parocks]

unless we were going to win this single caucus by over 190 votes, IT MATTERS NOT.

If we wanted to win that by 190 votes, that should be easy enough to do. We'd need Ron Paul to be there.

Ron Paul was at the New Gloucester caucus Saturday. Town of around 5,000. In 2008, Ron Paul got 1 vote in New Gloucester. In 2012, Ron Paul got 49 votes in New Gloucester. Because he was there.

Washington county really isn't much more populated than New Gloucester. 30K. And it's a lot bigger physically.
But 190 votes. We should be able to accomplish that. Add the Hancock caucus to that. And Castine on March 3.

 

[parocks]

So the campaign is aware of this? When are they going to blare the horns and raise hell? Excuse my language but FCUK the Romney and Ron Paul truce. Ron Paul should not continue with this truce... not after he got screwed in Maine. I think Ron should attack the front runner, even if its romney, to prevent them from gaining too much momentum. I think most of us is sick of the truce.

I think Ron should attack Romney for vengeance. Punishment. If it's scorched earth, it's scorched earth.

 

[alucard13mmfmj]

If we wanted to win that by 190 votes, that should be easy enough to do. We'd need Ron Paul to be there.

Ron Paul was at the New Gloucester caucus Saturday. Town of around 5,000. In 2008, Ron Paul got 1 vote in New Gloucester. In 2012, Ron Paul got 49 votes in New Gloucester. Because he was there.

Washington county really isn't much more populated than New Gloucester. 30K. And it's a lot bigger physically.
But 190 votes. We should be able to accomplish that. Add the Hancock caucus to that. And Castine on March 3.

190 votes should be no problem, assuming that romney doesnt get any lol. I still think they should count them ,even though its improbable it might help us win.. BUT it is still possible. If it is possible, I want it counted damn it.

 

[wgadget]

Possible, but how did they come up with the higher overall vote totals?

That is the mystery which only the Maine GOP can explain. Shall we ask them?

 

[Vanilluxe]

That is the mystery which only the Maine GOP can explain. Shall we ask them?

They will say your calculations are miscalculated

 

[parocks]

We should have a separate thread on this, it could be viable and crucial evidence which the campaign can use.

These are changes in the "watch the vote" website that are so important to study? I don't understand.

Look at the official results.

They're missing most of Waldo County.

And Waterville.

http://www.mainegop.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/me_gop_caucus_results.pdf

 

[amonasro]

Holy shit they just switched Ron Paul's and Romney's numbers!

I looked and thought the same thing, but didn't believe it at first.

REALLY MAINE?

The GOP is sailing into a shit typhoon. They'd better haul in the jib before it gets covered in shit.

 

[parocks]

190 votes should be no problem, assuming that romney doesnt get any lol. I still think they should count them ,even though its improbable it might help us win.. BUT it is still possible. If it is possible, I want it counted damn it.

If we wanted to win it, we'd win it. Because Ron Paul could have a day long "hang out with Ron Paul all day" if he wanted to. And 1000 people in Washington county would do that. The Ron Paul Rock Concert and Free Beer Washington County Caucus.