BENGHAZI

[ClydeCoulter]

Pieczenik is on Alex Jones going into incredible details.

He's former State Dept.

Tuning in....thanks....

 

[HOLLYWOOD]

Pieczenik is on Alex Jones going into incredible details.

He's former State Dept.

Best captivating interview since Charlie Sheen! That was

 

[Warlord]

Alex wasn't happy because at one stage I think Piezenik called for leaders to be executed.

Another FBI and SS visit for Alex LOL

Hollywood, check this thread where I'm not happy with Justin Amash:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...Amash-I-yield-my-time-to-the-member-from-Utah

 

[jmdrake]

Drudge is furious with the Dems:

DEM BLAMES BUDGET CUTS!!!!

Like a budget cut for embassy security caused someone to the the special forces in the area to stand down.

 

[ninepointfive]

You'd think this would solicit more discussion than the armed march with how damning it is. The entire USA ought to demand the resignation of Obama and his entire administration.

 

[Cap]

What ever happened to the special prosecutors that used to be assigned to hot potato investigations? Congress or the Justice Department are incapable of investigating this honstly.

 

[Warlord]

What ever happened to the special prosecutors that used to be assigned to hot potato investigations? Congress or the Justice Department are incapable of investigating this honstly.

We seemed to have reached a new low. The CIA doesn't exist to Congress any more. They're not interested in them. Just let them do what they want, who cares we'll just cover it up later!

 

[Cap]

You know the fix is in when there is no mention of a independent special prosecutor by anyone. We(liberty movement) should be screaming for this. This would help us immensely with Rand's run in 2016.

 

[Warlord]

Boehner is under pressure for a special investigative committee which will mean they can call back Hillary and dig much deeper.

He will have to give in to this request or there will be uproar sooner or later. Each new revelation is increasing the pressure and he hasn't completely ruled it out with his comments today.

 

[devil21]

We seemed to have reached a new low. The CIA doesn't exist to Congress any more. They're not interested in them. Just let them do what they want, who cares we'll just cover it up later!

CIA really is a shadow government, isn't it? I was watching news coverage and pundits on the big 3 the last few days and not one would expressly say that it was the CIA providing the bs talking points to Susan Rice and the administration immediately after the attack. Every mention of these initial talking points was some variation of a vague reference to "officials" but never specifically stated the CIA was the talking point provider. It was maddening to watch! Just fucking say it was the CIA!

But we know the CIA has people inside the major media shops so it's no surprise.

 

[Warlord]

CIA really is a shadow government, isn't it? I was watching news coverage and pundits on the big 3 the last few days and not one would expressly say that it was the CIA providing the bs talking points to Susan Rice and the administration immediately after the attack. Every mention of these initial talking points was some variation of a vague reference to "officials" but never specifically stated the CIA was the talking point provider. It was maddening to watch! Just fucking say it was the CIA!

But we know the CIA has people inside the major media shops so it's no surprise.

I dont think the CIA are involved in talking points. There's a board in the department that formulates them and were editing them and giving them to Rice.

 

[HOLLYWOOD]

Oh yeah, AJ was very uncomfortable with the opinions of Dr Piezenik... AJ would interrupt and change the subject quickly. Some Very intense shit.

Amash is new, he's not a former Company man, or in a systemic profession which requires at least a TS/SBI/SCI security clearance. Disappointment yes, but this was unknown to him, he just needs preparation with some former CIA chiefs/officers, being briefed on a list of questions to ask, plus, how to counter the well tailored/worded rebuttals. Michael Scheuer was right there @ GWU if they needed to meet for some coaching(homework)... plus there's many legacy agents/consultants which could help Justin from DC metro area. He should be well prepared next time, if establishment insider Boehner hasn't ban future hearings.

I still chuckle at that TEA PARTY kook Michelle Bachmann in the crowd yesterday. Such a 2 bit photo op for these shallow politicians gaining public appearances. Betcha she asked the photographers for digital copies sitting behind the whistleblowers, meh

Alex wasn't happy because at one stage I think Piezenik called for leaders to be executed.

Another FBI and SS visit for Alex LOL

Hollywood, check this thread where I'm not happy with Justin Amash:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...Amash-I-yield-my-time-to-the-member-from-Utah

 

[devil21]

I dont think the CIA are involved in talking points. There's a board in the department that formulates them and were editing them and giving them to Rice.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505263_...zi-attack-spontaneously-inspired-by-protests/

(CBS News) WASHINGTON - CBS News has obtained the CIA talking points given to U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice on Sept. 15 regarding the fatal attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya, four days earlier. CBS News correspondent Margaret Brennan says the talking points, which were also given to members of the House intelligence committee, make no reference to terrorism being a likely factor in the assault, which left U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans dead.

 

[Warlord]

Boehner can't withstand this pressure. Notice his comments today he's leaving the door open to more hearings and investigations.

Over half the GOP conference are calling for a special committee. If he keeps stonewalling they're going to get even madder and Boehner doesn't want a mad conference otherwise the proles may start revolting. He's already got enough on his plate.

 

[Warlord]

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505263_...zi-attack-spontaneously-inspired-by-protests/

Oh thanks I didn't know that. Very interesting. They should have Petraeus explain this but that would shatter the fairy tale illusion of the venerable general.

Notice he bailed from the administration quickly along with Clinton !

 

[HOLLYWOOD]

Here's a stat on how left/right media play GenghaziGate.

 

[Warlord]

Here's Dr. Steve Pieczenik's interview with Alex Jones on Benghazi.

He's a former State Dept. contractor and knows a lot of the people involved.

He gives INCREDIBLE details that you won't ever hear anywhere else.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OoMHqoaJC8

 

[surf]

Benghazi (for neocon Republicans in particular) = LOOK, A SQUIRREL!

 

[Lucille]

When the Obama admin. loses The New Yorker...

Spinning Benghazi
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blo...hazi-cia-talking-point-edits-white-house.html

It’s a cliché, of course, but it really is true: in Washington, every scandal has a crime and a coverup. The ongoing debate about the attack on the United States facility in Benghazi where four Americans were killed, and the Obama Administration’s response to it, is no exception. For a long time, it seemed like the idea of a coverup was just a Republican obsession. But now there is something to it.

On Friday, ABC News’s Jonathan Karl revealed the details of the editing process for the C.I.A.’s talking points about the attack, including the edits themselves and some of the reasons a State Department spokeswoman gave for requesting those edits. It’s striking to see the twelve different iterations that the talking points went through before they were released to Congress and to United Nations Ambassador Susan Rice, who used them in Sunday show appearances that became a central focus of Republicans’ criticism of the Administration’s public response to the attacks. Over the course of about twenty-four hours, the remarks evolved from something specific and fairly detailed into a bland, vague mush.

From the very beginning of the editing process, the talking points contained the erroneous assertion that the attack was “spontaneously inspired by the protests at the U.S. Embassy in Cairo and evolved.” That’s an important fact, because the right has always criticized the Administration based on the suggestion that the C.I.A. and the State Department, contrary to what they said, knew that the attack was not spontaneous and not an outgrowth of a demonstration. But everything else about the changes that were made is problematic. The initial draft revealed by Karl mentions “at least five other attacks against foreign interests in Benghazi” before the one in which four Americans were killed. That’s not in the final version. Nor is this: “[W]e do know that Islamic extremists with ties to al-Qa’ida participated in the attack.” That was replaced by the more tepid “There are indications that extremists participated in the violent demonstrations.” (Even if we accept the argument that State wanted to be sure that extremists were involved, and that they could be linked to Al Qaeda, before saying so with any level of certainty—which is reasonable and supported by evidence from Karl’s reporting—that doesn’t fully explain these changes away.)

Democrats will argue that the editing process wasn’t motivated by a desire to protect Obama’s record on fighting Al Qaeda in the run-up to the 2012 election. They have a point; based on what we’ve seen from Karl’s report, the process that went into creating and then changing the talking points seems to have been driven in large measure by two parts of the government—C.I.A. and State—trying to make sure the blame for the attacks and the failure to protect American personnel in Benghazi fell on the other guy.

But the mere existence of the edits—whatever the motivation for them—seriously undermines the White House’s credibility on this issue. This past November (after Election Day), White House Press Secretary Jay Carney told reporters that “The White House and the State Department have made clear that the single adjustment that was made to those talking points by either of those two institutions were changing the word ‘consulate’ to ‘diplomatic facility’ because ‘consulate’ was inaccurate.”

Remarkably, Carney is sticking with that line even now. In his regular press briefing on Friday afternoon (a briefing that was delayed several times, presumably in part so the White House could get its spin in order, but also so that it could hold a secretive pre-briefing briefing with select members of the White House press corps), he said:

The only edit made by the White House or the State Department to those talking points generated by the C.I.A. was a change from referring to the facility that was attacked in Benghazi from “consulate,” because it was not a consulate, to “diplomatic post”… it was a matter of non-substantive factual correction. But there was a process leading up to that that involved inputs from a lot of agencies, as is always the case in a situation like this and is always appropriate.

This is an incredible thing for Carney to be saying. He’s playing semantic games, telling a roomful of journalists that the definition of editing we’ve all been using is wrong, that the only thing that matters is who’s actually working the keyboard. It’s not quite re-defining the word “is,” or the phrase “sexual relations,” but it’s not all that far off, either.

 

[HOLLYWOOD]

Please add to this so we can keep a rolling description of Libya/BenghaziGate...


So the Obama Benghazi regime did the following:

1. Spin all the Benghazi stories to protect Barry's 2012 Re-election
2. Obama wanted to flaunt his successful overthrow and assassination of the Qaddafi/Libyan government
3. Obama was censoring and propagandizing Libyan overthrow as peaceful protection over W Bush's Disaster/Destruction of Iraq
4. Obama bought $1+ Billion in Russian HIND helicopters in a secret deal to get Russia's UN abstention on U.N. Resolution 1973 aka 'Bomb the Shit Out of Libya'
5. Hillary Rodham Clinton aka Monster of DOS, wanted a permanent DOS site in Benghazi for some staged photo ops for her 2016 POTUS run
6. Hillary's DOS Chief of Staff, , tried to keep DOS agents(DCM) quiet in Libya from meeting/speaking with Congressman Jason Chaffetz alone.
7. US Senator Rand Paul question Hillary Clinton about Benghazi/Libya being used as a staging area for running weapons that would eventually go to Syrian terrorists
8. Hillary Clinton lied to a US Senator
9. Depart Of State DOS Libyan based officers confirm denial of resources to help against Benghazi attacks
10. Field Service Officer Gregory Hicks demoted to "OVER COMPLEMENTED" status, moved to a desk for telling the truth to Congressional Inquiry in Tripoli.
11. Double Secret Al-Qaeda Army given Missiles to overthrow the Syria Government
12. Past 30-40 years there's been 2 waring factions between the CIA-Military(DOD) and the CIA-FBI CIA has been outta control since IKE
13. Under Panetta they have created paramilitary units that have infringed on the US military and killed 1000s of civilians. They Started Drone Warfare
14. US was torturing in Benghazi
15. Hillary Clinton is a very dangerous person. Beyond sociopath, evil personification, she's culpable, she knew exactly what happen, on top of the callus coupe against Petreaus
16. Machiavellian Patrick Kennedy, Secretary of Under-Management @ State, position that can manipulate all the funds, all the positions, & even the careers involved, his boss, Tom Pickering, was to over see the board on John Brennan taking out Patreaus DCI under cutted with illegal shipment of arms to Syria.


Dr. Steve Pieczenik, This is not just a coverup, this makes Watergate look like baby stuff. The following need to be indicted criminal offenses committed by: Obama, Hillary Rodham Clinton, John Brennan, and General Dempsey