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If I get a cruiser I will almost certainly be sticking a top case on it. Is that considered blasphemy?


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If I get a cruiser I will almost certainly be sticking a top case on it. Is that considered blasphemy?


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thats gay as shit. The only thing to do with a cruiser is bob it and paint all the chrome black. Cruisers aren't for practicality, mostly for getting pussy.
 
thats gay as $#@!. The only thing to do with a cruiser is bob it and paint all the chrome black. Cruisers aren't for practicality, mostly for getting pussy.

Awesome. I want to be gay. And carry stuff around like a scooter can. Don't H.D. riders usually dress up like gay pirates anyhow?
 
Ok, so all this new bike talk has got me going...

Here's where my tastes are running right now:

The Victory "Eight Ball"...they had one of the these at the dealer, Victory line is being discontinued by Polaris, reduced for quick sale, new left over, to $8800.

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The HD Softail "Slim" - MSRP $15000 - Downside, new design which means all computerized...

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The classic HD softail, which is dated looking but I still love that pseudo chopper look. Gently used, non computerized, non emission model for around $5-6000

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Or bite the bullet and undertake a new construction?

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Was my first bike.

Here's almost an exact duplicate of how it looked once in the hardtail frame.

Minus the oil tank, I blanked off and tapped fittings in the frame to use as an oil tank.

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Mine had a little more rake, was all black, (chrome don't get you home) and had a girder front.

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Bay Bridge & freeways in CA require a minimum of 150cc. I'd like to at least be legal to utilize them minimally. But I think I would need closer to 500cc to expect to access them with any frequency.
You couldn't pay me to take anything 150 or 200cc onto a California freeway.

If traffic is 100% stopped you'd be fine, but if it's flowing - especially off and on - you'd never ever keep up with traffic. You'd create a hazard.


Edit: Let me explain. That 200cc scooter, for example, has 15 hp and 11 ft/lb of torque. It weighs 297 pounds dry. Let's be generous and say that you, all your gear, whatever's in your top box, and all fluids in the bike combined weigh 203 pounds total. That puts the total weight at 500 pounds.

That's 33.3 pounds per horsepower. Even the very shittiest econobox of a car is a rocketship compared to that scooter.

The Smart Fortwo, which is a pile of garbage masquerading as a car, has 23.0 pounds per horsepower. It, one of the slowest cars you can buy, is 1/3rd more powerful than that scooter.

The Mitsubishi Mirage, which is evidently the very slowest car you can buy in the United States and takes 12.8 seconds to get from 0 to 60 mph has 29 lbs per horsepower and is therefore still more than 10% faster than that scooter.


Not only that, those cars have multiple gears with which to use that horsepower. You, with one gear from 0 to 60-whatever, will be the absolute slowest thing on the freeway. In my opinion, that is a dangerous situation for anyone on two wheels.



In contrast, a 300cc bike like the Ninja 300 or CB300F make 25-30 hp but weigh the same-ish. The Rebel 300 makes 25-ish hp but weighs a hundred pounds more. They're fully twice as fast as the scooter... and still considered 'too slow' for the freeway by some. Those bikes are about as fast as a normal car. 500cc bikes are in the 40-ish hp realm.
 
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Awesome. I want to be gay. And carry stuff around like a scooter can. Don't H.D. riders usually dress up like gay pirates anyhow?

'A lot of them do this is true, but you can't put a top case on a chopper, leather saddle bags with tassels go for it. Get a scooter, a 250 would be perfect for California even on the highway, plenty of storage, plenty practicality, nothing gay about it.
 
If it's going to be a Harley I would love a bobber, especially a classic flathead total loss, or a WLA. XRs are pretty cool too.

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Tough


Really I'm a sucker for the Art Deco style and fenders of the chief, park it next to my duesenberg.
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Real men ride Vespas:

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yes they do, I had a rally 200 myself. Always partial to the lambretta.


I competed two years in ESRA with a hopped up kymco super 9


nothing was more fun or turned more heads then the Italjet(piaggio group) Dragster 180, it had malossi everything and was good for 100+ mph, as much fun as a big bore two stroke snow machine.


'Here's my firecat I had up in the arctic
 
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