At least 60 feared dead and shots fired as lorry RAMS into crowd celebrating Bastille Day

[Ender]

I just read what you write. If you don't want to appear to be cold and callous towards dead ("white, privileged, imperialist") children, and you don't want to appear sympathetic towards mass murderers, I have a helpful suggestion:

Post fewer posts sympathetic towards mass-murdering terrorists
Post few posts showing callous indifference towards victims of terrorism.

That's all! Blame the victims less. Blame the terrorists more.

YOU are reading callous indifference into my posts? YOU who have stated the the poor should not be helped? Should be left to starve because they won't learn anything if they are helped? Hypocritical much?

I already stated I was against the killing. And I never blamed the victims- just TPTB.

 

[69360]

Starting to look like this wasn't international islamic terrorism, just a loser who killed a lot people.

 

[JK/SEA]

Starting to look like this wasn't international islamic terrorism, just a loser who killed a lot people.

the driver was yelling Aluah Akbar. Not exactly a disgruntled employee from the post office.

BLOWBACK is a bitch, and she's still in heat.

Tunisia is the hot bed for jihadi warriors, and its my understanding he was of Tunisian blood....

do the math.

 

[69360]

the driver was yelling Aluah Akbar. Not exactly a disgruntled employee from the post office.

BLOWBACK is a bitch, and she's still in heat.

Stories coming out from neighbors and relatives say this guy drank, smoked dope, chased women, ate pork and never went to mosque. That doesn't seem like a jihadi to me.

 

[puppetmaster]

Blowback is not the end of the story......in fact it is just the beginning. We shall see vast array of corrections

 

[Ender]

Stories coming out from neighbors and relatives say this guy drank, smoked dope, chased women, ate pork and never went to mosque. That doesn't seem like a jihadi to me.

Agree.

Sounds like meds or a patsy.

Early news also said there was more than one guy plus hostages and now they say no to that.

Soooo.....who really knows?

 

[helmuth_hubener]

Sounds like meds or a patsy.

Patsy?!?! Patsy for whom?

noun NORTH AMERICAN informal
a person who is easily taken advantage of, especially by being cheated or blamed for something.

Aww, just a poor, innocent patsy.

Again, if you want to pretend to not have sympathy with mass-murderers, stop making posts expressing sympathy to mass-murderers!! It's a dead give-away.

 

[Ender]

Patsy?!?! Patsy for whom?

noun NORTH AMERICAN informal
a person who is easily taken advantage of, especially by being cheated or blamed for something.

Aww, just a poor, innocent patsy.

Again, if you want to pretend to not have sympathy with mass-murderers, stop making posts expressing sympathy to mass-murderers!! It's a dead give-away.

You got one sick mind- never said; never intended.

And quit following me around- looks like you got the hots.

 

[Ender]

You mean the Americans and French, who mass murdered the hundreds of thousands, if not millions of Iraqis, Lybians, and Syrians?



Why is the religion of the person only mentioned when they are muslim. You never hear mass shooters referred to first by their religion.

(unless they are muslim).

How about race? maybe they shoudl be referred to by race. "the white mass shooter anders Breivik, the white mass shooter Elliot rogers, teh white mass shooters Erik Harris and Dylan Kleibold, the white mass shooter Kyle Huff.

I mean it is pretty obvious to anyone, WHITE CULTURE FOSTERS MASS SHOOTINGS! IT'S A VIOLENT CULTURE.

Hell, we can even say WHITE MALE CULTURE!

see how that works?

^^THIS^^

Never hear that US Christians just droned the shit outta the ME.

 

[MelissaWV]

Stories coming out from neighbors and relatives say this guy drank, smoked dope, chased women, ate pork and never went to mosque. That doesn't seem like a jihadi to me.

Not sure what will eventually come out about this, but you do realize you can do something on behalf of a group that would normally not accept you at all? It could go far towards explaining why no outside group has leaped in to take responsibility for him and the attack. It might also be a recent decision, and there's a pretty solid belief that sins in this life are weighed against your good deeds (and "good" deeds can include, for instance, striking a blow against dozens of infidels).

I would not rule that out.

* * *

I also would not rule out someone who just had a grudge or was pissed off or disturbed or generally out to kill people. What he was yelling is a matter of hearsay and honestly I can yell anything I want, without actually being part of a group, so it really doesn't determine that I'm a Muslim Jihadist or wtfe if I'm yelling the same thing they have in the past.

As for the "white Christian men" thing, yes, that's been used. There's just much less backlash. Anytime there's a serial killer or mass shooting, the first thing all the on-call experts start harping on is how the suspect is most likely a white male, loner, socially dysfunctional, etc..

 

[helmuth_hubener]

You got one sick mind- never said; never intended.

And quit following me around- looks like you got the hots.

Following you around? For being in the same thread? Hey, just giving you some good advice. If you want to support and sympathize with mass-murderers, have at it! Just don't blame me if people look askance, narrow their eyes, and slowly back away.

And since I'm such a nice and amiable guy, and you are feeling "followed" for some inexplicable reason, I'll let you have this thread, I'll bow out. Express your solidarity with the poor Muslim "patsy" to your heart's content. This is now a safe space for you.

 

[Ender]

Following you around? For being in the same thread? Hey, just giving you some good advice. If you want to support and sympathize with mass-murderers, have at it! Just don't blame me if people look askance, narrow their eyes, and slowly back away.

And since I'm such a nice and amiable guy, and you are feeling "followed" for some inexplicable reason, I'll let you have this thread, I'll bow out. Express your solidarity with the poor Muslim "patsy" to your heart's content. This is now a safe space for you.

Never said or implied anything you are saying- so Buh-bye- I think your mother's calling you.

 

[Danke]

Were any Officers injured?

Yes.

 

[UWDude]

It doesn't work. There was nothing to blow back against. He had no grievance. He had no connection to anyone with a grievance. He was living in France. He was not getting bombed. His family was not getting bombed. He had just as much connection to the Middle East as he did to Tazmania. That is: none! Except for....

Just like your typical, angry white male. Fuck, those dudes are dangerous. Why can't everybody see? Whiteness, and maleness, means mass shooters. It is right there in the white male manual of life, aka Call of Duty II. White male gamers?

Ladies and gentlemen, the terrorists of tomorrow! Buy your body armor now!

 

[UWDude]

Stories coming out from neighbors and relatives say this guy drank, smoked dope, chased women, ate pork and never went to mosque. That doesn't seem like a jihadi to me.

that's because you don't understand muslisms. Most muslims are not pious, or never were. Like any other religion. Most religious followers masturbate and cuss and drink, even though their religion forbids it.

Mind

blown

man

 

[enhanced_deficit]

It doesn't work. There was nothing to blow back against. He had no grievance. He had no connection to anyone with a grievance. He was living in France. He was not getting bombed. His family was not getting bombed. He had just as much connection to the Middle East as he did to Tazmania. That is: none! ...

EM.
In his mind, there was.
Probably for similar reasons that 70% of US Public used to rationalize support for an irrational act of attacking Iraq that had nothing to do with 9/11. Brits/Australians joined US invasion of Iraq when they were not even living in the US , why do you think they joined US led bombing of Iraq?
Because they perceived 9/11 as attack on "our people" (translated, people with shared racial/cultural/religiois heritage) and they wanted to take a revenge against "their people". Simple as that. Irrational/exaggerated/false narratives probably get accepted with relative ease when human minds are in some radicalized/rage state usually in proximity (physical or emotional) to acts of violence.





Yesterday read this informative local article out of France:

Why is France the target of choice for jihadists?

15 Jul 2016 15:51 GMT+02:00

Once again everyone has been left asking "why has France been targeted in an apparent terror attack, once again?" It's a complex question.
This report was written by AFP shortly after the Paris terror attacks. But it is a question everyone has been left asking once again after Thursday's mass killing in Nice.
The bloody attacks in Paris show that France is a target of choice for jihadists due to its air strikes against Isis in Iraq and Syria, as well as its controversial ban on the burqa face veil and attitude to Muslims, analysts say.
"If you can kill an American or European infidel, especially the dirty, nasty French ... then count on Allah, kill him any way you can," said an Isis spokesman, Abu Mohammed al-Adnani, in 2014 as the US-led coalition launched its anti-Isis raids in Iraq.
Perhaps inspired by these words, jihadist attacks against France over the past year have been of unprecedented ferocity.
In January, 17 people were killed in Paris in a string of attacks against satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo, a policewoman and a Jewish supermarket. And in June, a man beheaded his boss in southeast France.
Friday night, a series of attacks that for the first time brought suicide bombers to Paris, left at least 129 people dead and 350 injured.
France is "a target due to counter-terrorism activities in north and central Africa as well as the perceived mistreatment of and discrimination against the Muslim minority in France itself," said Matthew Henman, head of Jane's Terrorism and Insurgency Centre in London.
French troops have fought Islamists in Mali and currently back African forces battling Nigeria's deadly Boko Haram Islamist group. French jets have staged 283 strikes against Isis targets in Iraq since September 2014.
In October 2015, France extended its air campaign to Syria where its fighter-bombers have carried out five strikes against Isis training camps and oil sites. As part of the drive to intensify the campaign, the French aircraft-carrier Charles-de-Gaulle is due in the area in December.
A witness to the Friday's attack on a crowded concert hall where more 82 people were killed, Pierre Janaszak, said he heard the attackers say: "'It's the fault of Hollande, it's the fault of your president, he should not have intervened in Syria'".

http://www.thelocal.fr/20160715/why-france-is-target-of-choice-for-jihadists

 

[Suzanimal]

Stories coming out from neighbors and relatives say this guy drank, smoked dope, chased women, ate pork and never went to mosque. That doesn't seem like a jihadi to me.

Agree.

Sounds like meds or a patsy.

Early news also said there was more than one guy plus hostages and now they say no to that.

Soooo.....who really knows?

Sounds like a lunatic, to me.

He was nothing special.

The terrorist truck driver who slaughtered 84 people in the French Riviera city of Nice was a boozing deliveryman with a violent criminal past — but had no apparent ties to religious extremism.

Mohamed Lahouaiej Bouhlel was a petty criminal who drank alcohol, beat his wife, and had a blatant disregarded for the basic tenets of Islam, according to relatives and neighbors.

“Bouhlel was not religious. He did not go to the mosque. He did not pray. He did not observe Ramadan,” his wife’s cousin Walid Hamou told MailOnline. “He drank alcohol, ate pork and took drugs. This is all forbidden under Islam.

“He was not a Muslim. He was a s--t. He beat his wife, my cousin. He was a nasty piece of work.”

Neighbors described the 31-year-old, who was born in Tunisia and had dual French citizenship, as a skirt-chasing father of three bitter about his recent divorce.

“He was rude and bit weird,” a neighbor told BFM-TV. “We would hold the door open for him and he would just blank him.

“He kept to himself but would always rant about his wife. He had marital problems and would tell people in the local cafe. He scared my children though,” the neighbor added.

Bouhlel and his wife separated about two years ago and he moved out of the couple’s apartment in the Le Ray neighborhood of the city, less than 3 miles from the seaside strip where he left a trail of blood and bodies Thursday.

...

In Tunisia, the killer’s father told RTL, a European news service, that his son had a history of mental illness.

“He had some difficult times,” his dad said. “I took him to a psychiatrist, he took treatment and he said that he was suffering from a very serious illness.”

Bouhlel had a lengthy rap sheet and had been busted for armed robbery, domestic violence and making threats. And he was once arrested after he fell asleep while driving for work. His last conviction came in March, when he received a six-month suspended sentence for using a wooden pallet as a weapon against another driver during a traffic incident.

...

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/nice-attacker-mohamed-lahouaiej-bouhlel-article-1.2712654

 

[Ender]

From Rockwell:

A Question About the Cops in Nice
Llewellyn H. Rockwell, Jr.

The ones who let the murderer through without proof he was asked to deliver ice cream, or even looking in his large truck, where he was carrying a box of hand grenades.

Who placed them there?

Writes Butler Shaffer:

And who had the foresight to be videotaping his attack apparently even before it had begun?

 

[MelissaWV]

You're asking why people would be videotaping around the time fireworks and live music were going on during a national holiday?

 

[FindLiberty]

...why do you think they...

In his mind, probably for similar reasons

BECAUSE OIL

(ripped-from-Hillary's-emails: french-plot-to-overthrow-Muammar Gaddafi-and-help-itself-to-Libya's-oil)

http://fpif.org/ripped-from-hillary...rthrow-gaddafi-and-help-itself-to-libyas-oil/