Arizona passes birther bill(Obama will not campaign there now)

[ItsTime]

I had to show my birth certificate to play Little League. Just saying.

 

[Acala]

Obama's image is the only thing he has. There are powers bigger than Obama that call his shots. Obama needs them. They don't need Obama - then can control somebody else just as much.

If it states it plainly, I can't find it.

^this

Obama is a puppet. He has no agenda. His agenda was getting to be President and for that he sacrificed any other personal agenda or principle because that is the price that must be paid to be the annointed candidate. But just to be sure, they put Biden behind him ready to step in just in case Obama had any inconvenient re-emergence of conscience or principle.

 

[KAYA]

Just think of all the better things they could have been doing rather than perpetuating this idiotic, racist, notion. Drop it. He's american. He has a birth certificate.

Racist? Does the law specify that only candidates of a particular race must prove citizenship?

 

[Zippyjuan]

It is a part of a "he is not one of "us"" campaign. He's not christian (he was called and is still called by some Muslim though that has been denied and disproved), he is not "American" - though he was born in one of the fifty states to a US born mother from Iowa. It would not go over as well to add that "he is not one of us" because he is partially black so that is not specifically said. It is not directly racist, but it does come off as closeted racism.

 

[anaconda]

Just think of all the better things they could have been doing rather than perpetuating this idiotic, racist, notion. Drop it. He's american. He has a birth certificate.

The green COLB posted on the internet is not conclusive of anything. In fact, it's laughable.

 

[Krugerrand]

It is a part of a "he is not one of "us"" campaign. He's not christian (he was called and is still called by some Muslim though that has been denied and disproved), he is not "American" - though he was born in one of the fifty states to a US born mother from Iowa. It would not go over as well to add that "he is not one of us" because he is partially black so that is not specifically said. It is not directly racist, but it does come off as closeted racism.

"closeted racism" comes off as I don't really have an argument so I'll accuse you of something 'invisible' so that you can't possibly argue against it.

I think, if anything, it comes across as an opposing political philosophy grasping at straws to fight it's opposition. But hey - if Lord Barry isn't hiding anything, it should be easy enough to meet their requirements.

 

[anaconda]

Unfortunately this law and all other state laws that are the same will be invalidated by the U.S. Supreme Court. They will simply rule that it is the U.S. Congresses job to certify his eligibility and that the states have no standing.

But doesn't the AZ secretary of state have the power to withhold the delegates and/or leave Soetoro's name off of the ballot? So what if Congress doesn't dispute his eligibility.

 

[Chester Copperpot]

People will still be free to write in Obamas name if they want too,

But really.. Id like to see all the states do this

 

[AZKing]

Even if he doesn't have one, he just won't produce it. Arizona is a very strong Republican state and wouldn't vote for the guy anyway. And AZ only has 11 electoral votes.

It'll be fun to see how it plays out, nonetheless. Even if it can come across as bigoted, it sure does provide for some entertainment. Imagine if Barry doesn't produce and doesn't go on the ballot, or better yet sues the state over the bill. THAT would fun to watch.

This would be a better bill in a state like California or Florida.

 

[jmdrake]

True to an extent. I do not believe a state can deny a candidate of a major political party. Third parties are a different story. You see if a republican leaning state could deny access to the ballot by a democratic challenger it would assure a republican win and vice versa. I believe that is called electioneering and is a federal crime. It all boils down to whos job it is to determine eligibility of a presidential candidate and according to the constitution that responsibility lies with the U.S. congress.

You need to re-read Article 1 section 8 of the U.S. constitution. Qualifying presidential candidates (or any other candidate) is not one of the enumerated powers of congress.

See: http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html#A1Sec8

 

[Southron]

Judges won't let it stand IMO. If any legislation slips by the federal authorities, their judges will be there to back them up.

 

[Acala]

Any effort directed at an Obama-only issue is wasted. It is a Republican-Machine strategy to get people focused on Obama as an individual and distracted away from anything that challenges the power of the STATE as an institution.

 

[virgil47]

You need to re-read Article 1 section 8 of the U.S. constitution. Qualifying presidential candidates (or any other candidate) is not one of the enumerated powers of congress.

See: http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html#A1Sec8

Well I'll be dipped! You are correct! Of course you do realize that because of the way the requirement for Pres. is written that he and only he can demand proof. Sweet. Virually anyone that is born anywhere can be the President as no one can demand proof one way or another. Quite an oversight by the founders wouldn't you say?

 

[goopc]

It is a Republican-Machine strategy to get people focused on Obama as an individual and distracted away from anything that challenges the power of the STATE as an institution.

+1, Obama's not the problem, the rampant statism in America is the problem.

Also if the BC doesn't exist, then Obama has successfully bought off numerous officials in the government of Hawaii (including the director of the Department of Health & the registrar of vital statistics). If Obama has the power to do this, surly he can forge a BC.

 

[dannno]

Just think of all the better things they could have been doing rather than perpetuating this idiotic, racist, notion. Drop it. He's american. He has a birth certificate.

What does this have to do with race?

 

[Dr.3D]

What does this have to do with race?

Perhaps the birth certificate says Caucasian on it. Poor ole Obama would probably lose a ton of votes it that were the case.

 

[idirtify]

Any effort directed at an Obama-only issue is wasted. It is a Republican-Machine strategy to get people focused on Obama as an individual and distracted away from anything that challenges the power of the STATE as an institution.

If that is their strategy, it’s lame. If anything, a dethroning of a president because of such a constitutional crime as this would serve as a giant wound on Statism; which is already looking pretty sickly. It would help to confirm the notion that the majority of them are lowlife scoundrels. I mean, if the president has no more scruples than this, the rest probably don’t either. And if foreign citizenship is established, it would strongly imply guilt of a very large number of co-conspirators (a large percent of the federal system).

 

[Stary Hickory]

You know I am tired of the drama, it's done. It should have been done, now yay and move on. If he does not want to prove he is qualified under the constitution then he won't be on the ballot /yawn move on.

I am glad AZ did it, I hope more states adopt it so we never go through this with another POTUS or candidate again. If he doesn't want to show it then he does not get on the ballot plain and simple.

 

[libertarian4321]

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0411/53141.html

This birther pinheads are going to wet themselves when Obama presents his proof- the same State of Hawaii issued document he's been showing for years, as it is all the legal proof he needs (and, btw, it's the only document the state of Hawaii will issue).

 

[torchbearer]

This birther pinheads are going to wet themselves when Obama presents his proof- the same State of Hawaii issued document he's been showing for years, as it is all the legal proof he needs (and, btw, it's the only document the state of Hawaii will issue).

bookmarked for 2012.