Are you Pro-Life or Pro-Abortion

Pro-Life or Pro-Abortion

  • Pro-Life

    Votes: 208 67.8%
  • Pro-Abortion

    Votes: 99 32.2%

  • Total voters
    307
  • Poll closed .
Im not sure why people continue to debate what life is as related to the number of cells something has accumulated.

Even science does not debate that a single celled organism (eg. an ameoba) is, in fact, a living creature.
 
Pro-life

I am pro-life, but on the same token, don't feel it's the government's job to legislate. I detest abortion.
 
Murder of anyone not getting a Federal paycheck is a matter for the States, so is abortion. Dr. Paul's position is 100% Constitutional. Hard matters/cultural matters/police powers go to the States. If a State doesn't like what another State is doing badly enough it can secede, well, Constitutionally, if not practically (yet).
 
The morning after pill would help eliminate the need for abortions -- it prevents the pregnancy from beginning--as more options are developed, there will not be the need for this discussion -- I am very much pro-choice
 
Why not let him decide on his 13th birthday then? We could propose law to allow euthenasia couldnt we? Do you think he would say: OK, just kill me? Maybe so...and if so then its his right to choice?

Well, dude....
There are some people in the world who cannot face life, specially when times go hard and things get rough.

However, since you said euthanasia. Check out this documentary about capital punishment and execution.

It covers varies ways of killing a human being.

The Science of Killing a Human Being:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8672745777809394637
 
Pro Life Personally

Let the states decide as it isn;t my call to tell a woman what she can do.
 
I'm pro life (weak, not rabid) because of listening to Ron Paul. And that just goes to show how STUPID the republican establishment is for fighting Dr. Paul. He's really winning people over to new ways of thinking.

Regards,

John M. Drake
 
My wife, who is from China, was just reading an article about a woman in the country side who was pregnant and was in the middle of delivering the baby when the officials came in and killed the baby as it was coming out and still moving. This just happened. This was due to their "population control" policies. The lady went absolutely crazy afterwards.

What's really crazy about the whole situation is most of the Chinese are told by the government that it is OK and necessary and they actually believe that line.

It won't be long before the same socialist eugenicists try to pass this kind of crap here in the U.S. They've already got their foot in the door with skewing the definition of "life" written in the Constitution.

I guess our society is just "evolving" to the wonderful utopia that exists in China. :(
 
During the first trimester, the fertilized embryo's chance of surviving on its own is nil and its rights are tied to the woman's. When the second trimester starts, the fetus is much more viable and has its own rights. Into the third trimester, the fetus is it's own being and the chance of survival with proper medical care is decently likely.

I'm never "for" abortion, but I believe it should be legal during the first trimester. It's sadly become a staple and if made illegal now, would push many women to seek illegal, unsafe procedures. We need to end this problem through proper sex ed, a better economy, and driving home PERSONAL responsibility.

My hope is that by time my sons are old enough to have to worry about this issue, abortion will be a legal medical procedure of extreme last resort. By then there should be better access to birth control for both women AND men. That is what I am working for.
 
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In "the future" all new-borns should have a simple and reversible procedure that sterilizes them. Then as adults if they want children, they go have it reversed. The procedure can be limited to one gender or the other depending on simplicity and effectiveness. This will eliminate unwanted pregnancies.

This could also lead to the extinction of the human race.:p
 
Remember that 85% of the abortions performed are on lower income women, the same people who traditionally vote for big government candidates. Not to be too crude, but abortion works to eliminate future enemies of the free market.
 
While sounding on a basic and overly simplified level, informed, this argument reads like a judge's decision being passed down from the bench. Let me explain something we all know... the judges ruling makes it legal-- it doesnt make it right.

As far as this declaration on the basis of viability goes... I dont see it as any stronger than any other argument.

Life is life. This is intrinsic.

I see nothing intrinsic about an embryo's rights being tied to the mother? What about being viable gives more rights? "The chance of surviving on its own" somehow grants rights, whereas not being able to survive on one's own takes them away? I havent met any newborn who had any "chance of surviving on its own". The only thing that gives these children a "chance of surviving on their own" IS the granting of RIGHTS-- which happens at birth under law-- which binds the medical staff to act in a way to preserve life (whether abandoned by the "mother" or not).

Unfortunately, without rights many living creatures are not "viable" from conception... or ever.

On a side note:
Ive seen enough sick people, critically ill. These people were far from "viable" and had no chance of surviving on their own. But they did. Because someone stepped in. Because they have rights we are bound by law to act in a manner to preserve their life by any means available. We shouldnt stand aside.

During the first trimester, the fertilized embryo's chance of surviving on its own is nil and its rights are tied to the woman's. When the second trimester starts, the fetus is much more viable and has its own rights. Into the third trimester, the fetus is it's own being and the chance of survival with proper medical care is decently likely.

I'm never "for" abortion, but I believe it should be legal during the first trimester. It's sadly become a staple and if made illegal now, would push many women to seek illegal, unsafe procedures. We need to end this problem through proper sex ed, a better economy, and driving home PERSONAL responsibility.

My hope is that by time my sons are old enough to have to worry about this issue, abortion will be a legal medical procedure of extreme last resort. By then there should be better access to birth control for both women AND men. That is what I am working for.
 
Remember that 85% of the abortions performed are on lower income women, the same people who traditionally vote for big government candidates. Not to be too crude, but abortion works to eliminate future enemies of the free market.

There was an older guy at my GOP who was telling me about a family he casually knew when he was in Wisconsin that lived on welfare. They were on his delivery route and he would deliver to them every so often. It had been several months since he had delivered and when he got to the door the 14 year old answered the door and said, "I look different since the last time you saw me, don't I?" She was 8 months pregnant. She told him, "Yeah, my mom told me that we needed another paycheck each month so she told me to go get pregnant."

Unfortunately our welfare system actually grows the vote for the enemies of the free market.
 
There was an older guy at my GOP who was telling me about a family he casually knew when he was in Wisconsin that lived on welfare. They were on his delivery route and he would deliver to them every so often. It had been several months since he had delivered and when he got to the door the 14 year old answered the door and said, "I look different since the last time you saw me, don't I?" She was 8 months pregnant. She told him, "Yeah, my mom told me that we needed another paycheck each month so she told me to go get pregnant."

Unfortunately our welfare system actually grows the vote for the enemies of the free market.

I agree completely. We need to fight the welfare state legislatively, but we shouldn't disregard one of our best weapons against it which is abortion.
 
I agree completely. We need to fight the welfare state legislatively, but we shouldn't disregard one of our best weapons against it which is abortion.

You would choose to kill a living person for the good of the Free Market? I dont think RP would agree with half of your statement.
 
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