Are You a Trump supporter?

[thoughtomator]

Good grief the IQ of this place has dropped like 40 points in the last 8 months. There once was a time when we talked about ideas and truthers and anarchists etc actually discussed things. Now this place sounds like My junior high school study hall.

I'm perfectly happy to discuss the topic of the globalist cabal, its aims goals and methods, and the most effective ways to resist it.

Stuff like 9/11 truth is already at consensus, there can be no consensus on anarchy since by definition it forbids all alternatives and that just has us going in circles forever.

Any other ideas you want to discuss, throw them on the table, see what happens.

I really do think that there's nothing more serious though than that globalist cabal and its plans for us, since that is the establishment/shadow government and their plans really are proceeding ahead in rapid fashion.

 

[Smitty]

Looks like the poll has settled down to about 30% who openly support Trump and 70% who don't.

Considering the leftist slant the membership here has assumed over the past few years, I'd guess that of that 70% who don't support Trump, at least half will be voting for the Democrat candidate in November.

Of course, I don't expect any to admit it.

 

[Todd]

Looks like the poll has settled down to about 30% who openly support Trump and 70% who don't.

Considering the leftist slant the membership here has assumed over the past few years, I'd guess that of that 70% who don't support Trump, at least half will be voting for the Democrat candidate in November.

Of course, I don't expect any to admit it.

You're right....being that Trump is a lifelong progressive.

 

[thoughtomator]

You're right....being that Trump is a lifelong progressive.

Do you actually believe that?

All else aside, the guy is as non-ideological as they come. Name one other "progressive" who has called out Common Core as the disaster that it is on national TV. I'll wait for you to do your research.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Good grief the IQ of this place has dropped like 40 points in the last 8 months. There once was a time when we talked about ideas and truthers and anarchists etc actually discussed things. Now this place sounds like My junior high school study hall.

Like the GOP Debates?

 

[thoughtomator]

Brian, you may want to look into the accusations CPUd is making. Whether those accusations are true or false, mod intervention is warranted.

 

[fcreature]

Looks like the poll has settled down to about 30% who openly support Trump and 70% who don't.

Considering the leftist slant the membership here has assumed over the past few years, I'd guess that of that 70% who don't support Trump, at least half will be voting for the Democrat candidate in November.

Of course, I don't expect any to admit it.

You're right....being that Trump is a lifelong progressive.

Holy shit I can't say it enough. These people are delusional. Todd is exactly right. Trump is the true progressive in this race. Then the Trumpkin comes in and accuses those of us who don't support this progressive liberal, leftists?

 

[nikcers]

Looks like the poll has settled down to about 30% who openly support Trump and 70% who don't.

Considering the leftist slant the membership here has assumed over the past few years, I'd guess that of that 70% who don't support Trump, at least half will be voting for the Democrat candidate in November.

Of course, I don't expect any to admit it.

You're right some of us won't admit they are voting for a democrat, and 70% of us think Trump is a democrat.

 

[Todd]

Do you actually believe that?

All else aside, the guy is as non-ideological as they come. Name one other "progressive" who has called out Common Core as the disaster that it is on national TV. I'll wait for you to do your research.

Yep. Because I don't judge someone's philosophical foundations on what the bozo has been saying IN THE LAST 6 MONTHS.

LOL. Someone thinks words of a politician equate actual beliefs. You can get right on out of here with that shat....

 

[thoughtomator]

Yep. Because I don't judge someone's philosophical foundations on what the bozo has been saying IN THE LAST 6 MONTHS.

LOL. Someone thinks words of a politician equate actual beliefs. You can get right on out of here with that shat....

As a native New Yorker, I've known about Trump for over a quarter century - not 6 months - and find your label of "progressive" to be completely ungrounded in fact.

From you saying that I can tell that your familiarity with him spans a far shorter time period.

The guy is a player, full stop. He has no defined ideology.

 

[thoughtomator]

You're right some of us won't admit they are voting for a democrat, and 70% of us think Trump is a democrat.

You think there's a difference between a Democrat and a Republican?

 

[fcreature]

You think there's a difference between a Democrat and a Republican?

Why don't you tell that to Smitty? So let me get this right. Trumpkins can accuse those of us not supporting Trump as Democrat voters as a form of attack, but then when we defend ourselves against the accusation all of a sudden there is no difference between Ds and Rs? Which is it? It either matters or it doesn't matter. Can't have it both ways.

 

[thoughtomator]

Why don't you tell that to Smitty? So let me get this right. Trumpkins can accuse those of us not supporting Trump as Democrat voters as a form of attack, but then when we defend ourselves against the accusation all of a sudden there is no difference between Ds and Rs? Which is it?

Feel free to tell him. Maybe my response should have been your response to him, instead of absurdities like trying to label Trump a progressive.

The plain fact of the matter is that we have a binary question in front of us: Is Trump CFR or not? Literally, nothing else matters in the evaluation - nothing. Either he would come into office prepared to execute the CFR plan or he won't. If he won't then he is less of a threat than those who will, a group which includes all other remaining GOP and Democratic candidates.

 

[fcreature]

As a native New Yorker, I've known about Trump for over a quarter century - not 6 months - and find your label of "progressive" to be completely ungrounded in fact.

From you saying that I can tell that your familiarity with him spans a far shorter time period.

The guy is a player, full stop. He has no defined ideology.

Actually, Trump is consistent in a few aspects, all of which support his holding a progressive ideology above all others.

He's consistently for the use of eminent domain to take property for private business.

He's consistently been for higher taxes on the wealthy.

He's consistently been against free trade.

He's been fairly consistent in his advocacy for socialized health care, or at least some form of the government "taking care of everyone".

 

[Smitty]

You think there's a difference between a Democrat and a Republican?

I think there's differences between globalists and populists/nationalists.

The globalists are up to some very seriously evil stuff. The populists/nationalist(s), not so much.

It's still a choice between 2 evils. But the globalist's evil is downright Satanic. The populist/nationalist is merely a nuisance type of evil.

 

[Dianne]

Are you saying that if Hillary were elected that there would be a good chance of us losing our second amendment rights?

No politician on either side will be able to touch gun ownership in this country right now. No one. Maybe in 50 or 100 years it will be possible, but certainly not right now. Guns are one issue where Americans don't fuck around. Sure, there is a very vocal minority opinion but that's all it will ever be.

She's not going to take the guns, but she has already said that she will make gun manufacturers responsible and liable for gun deaths which will in essence, shut them all down.

 

[susano]

That's not how growth and reduction in government works. It's a slow buildup until sudden collapse and revolution. We've never seen a slow incremental rollback in the scope of government

Didn't Thatcher target and roll back socialism?

 

[thoughtomator]

Actually, Trump is consistent in a few aspects, all of which support his holding a progressive ideology above all others.

He's consistently for the use of eminent domain to take property for private business.

He's consistently been for higher taxes on the wealthy.

He's consistently been against free trade.

He's been fairly consistent in his advocacy for socialized health care, or at least some form of the government "taking care of everyone".

Please don't tell me that you actually believe that what goes on under the label of "free trade" is free trade.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

I lean more towards the boogieman rather than littlefinger, in a lesser of two flip-flopping evils scenario.

Rand will be on my ballot, so it's not a concern.

 

[fcreature]

Please don't tell me that you actually believe that what goes on under the label of "free trade" is free trade.

I never told you that.

Please don't tell me that imposing tariffs, taxes, and arbitrary regulations on trade is "free trade". Or if all else fails, resorting to militaristic threats.