Are you a Constitutionalist or an Anarchist?

[oyarde]

I support monarchy only if I am King .

 

[heavenlyboy34]

I support monarchy only if I am King .

Speaking of-how is your kingdom faring, uncle [MENTION=27246]oyarde[/MENTION]?

 

[oyarde]

Speaking of-how is your kingdom faring, uncle [MENTION=27246]oyarde[/MENTION]?

As usual my Kingdom is happy and prosperous .

 

[Vieux Canard]

I support monarchy only if I am King .

Clearly the best form of government is a wise king. Think of Cyrus of Persia. The problem has always been succession. Thanks to advances in AI, one day soon we can create a robot to rule over us. We just need a Cyrus to program it. Of course given present realities, we will probably get Netanyahu.

 

[Origanalist]

Clearly the best form of government is a wise king. Think of Cyrus of Persia. The problem has always been succession. Thanks to advances in AI, one day soon we can create a robot to rule over us. We just need a Cyrus to program it. Of course given present realities, we will probably get Netanyahu.

I would be ok with Vermin Supreme.

 

[pcosmar]

Clearly the best form of government is a wise king. Think of Cyrus of Persia. The problem has always been succession. Thanks to advances in AI, one day soon we can create a robot to rule over us. We just need a Cyrus to program it. Of course given present realities, we will probably get Netanyahu.

Foie Gras for king?

I am concerned that there may be some foresight in your fantasy,,, but none of my wishes.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

I would be ok with Vermin Supreme.

+a zillion I WANT MY PONY!!11!!!!

 

[Anti Federalist]

I miss Mini-Me and WRellim.

 

[Tywysog Cymru]

I'm a constitutionalist.

Let's say we achieve anarchy in America, how does a border town in Texas defend itself against Mexico?

 

[Dr.3D]

I'm a constitutionalist.

Let's say we achieve anarchy in America, how does a border town in Texas defend itself against Mexico?

As I recall, anarchists don't believe in borders anyway.

 

[pcosmar]

I'm a constitutionalist.

Let's say we achieve anarchy in America, how does a border town in Texas defend itself against Mexico?

What makes you think Mexico wants a Texas border town?

 

[heavenlyboy34]

As I recall, anarchists don't believe in borders anyway.

Not in political borders. They're used against us routinely(checkpoints, border walls, toll booths, etc). Some anarchists (foolishly) don't recognize private property in land at all. Ancaps and many others recognize it and see it as vital to civilization. Where political borders create the *illusion* of stability and security, private property boundaries create these in fact.

This book explains in depth:
https://books.google.com/books/abou...ver&source=kp_read_button#v=onepage&q&f=false

 

[Tywysog Cymru]

As I recall, anarchists don't believe in borders anyway.

So, a town in the land formerly known as Texas might be more accurate.

What makes you think Mexico wants a Texas border town?

Texas was once part of Mexico.

 

[fisharmor]

I'm a constitutionalist.

I was, at least marginally, at the time of the poll. So minus one from that number today.
The reason I left that mentality, never to return, because the only people who are 100% serious about following the US constitution are people who are just about to jump into anarchocapitalism.
It doesn't matter who you are or what your positions are, there is some way in which you do not wish to follow the US constitution as currently codified.
Eventually the futility of it sets in and you recognize that if you're going to be in a sad minority, may as well push for something that doesn't have a multi-century history of being nothing more than a series of fakeouts.

Let's say we achieve anarchy in America, how does a border town in Texas defend itself against Mexico?

My understanding is that a lot of people from Texas have been spending a lot of the last couple decades in Afghanistan learning a lot about how that could be handled without a functional state.

 

[pcosmar]

So, a town in the land formerly known as Texas might be more accurate.



Texas was once part of Mexico.

So what makes you think they want it back?

seems like a lot of trouble for a lot of trouble.

 

[Raginfridus]

There is no god but Mr. God, and Terry Davis is his prophet!

I'd be OK with anything as long as it left me alone, or was otherwise reasonable, but I would like anarchy, a monarchy, or a republic.

 

[Tywysog Cymru]

So what makes you think they want it back?

seems like a lot of trouble for a lot of trouble.

You assume that everyone would resist. There are plenty of people too old or too young. There are also pacifists and people who will value their own life over freedom. Then there are opportunistic people who would become collaborators.

 

[William Tell]

You assume that everyone would resist. There are plenty of people too old or too young. There are also pacifists and people who will value their own life over freedom. Then there are opportunistic people who would become collaborators.

There seems to be this mindset among some in the liberty movement that the U.S Government is the only potential aggressor and that other governments won't fill the vacuum and get greedy.

 

[fisharmor]

There seems to be this mindset among some in the liberty movement that the U.S Government is the only potential aggressor and that other governments won't fill the vacuum and get greedy.

Well I am an anarchist, precisely because I recognize all states as aggressive, greedy, and vaccuum-filling by their very nature.
I fully recognize that in all cases I can point to where there was no functional state as we define it, another aggressor state came in and bayonetted their way into power.
I do not have an answer for this... but I also believe it's kind of on the state apologists to first explain why, if states are immutably agressive, violent, and greedy, why we should tolerate them at all, and why we continually have this argument, instead of the smart argument, which is how to stop them in the end game.

 

[pcosmar]

You assume that everyone would resist.

You assume an attack.

I do not.