Antidepressant Drugs Causing Epidemic of Mania, Mayhem and Murder

[donnay]

What does this have to do with what I posted?

Because they do alter your mind, and, in most cases, not in a good way.

 

[donnay]

False.

I second the motion.

 

[tttppp]

Because they do alter you mind, and, in most cases, not in a good way.

In the sense that they fuck up your body, and you have the stress in dealing with that, yeah they do effect your mind...in a bad way. However, they do not improve your thinking at all, as they advertised. Complete fraud.

 

[Anti Federalist]

... So you agree then that these drugs have not caused an epidemic of mania, mayhem, and murder?

Look I'm not a fan of over prescription of drugs. I think there is a small percentage of people who have a chemical imbalance who benefit from these and other drugs. I think there is a larger percentage of people who are fine and would be better suited by eating healthier and working out - but instead due to laziness of themselves and doctors end up on these drugs instead.

I'm not in a panic about an army of zombies out to kill me. What's with all the fear mongering lately?

It's a tongue in cheek cautionary tale.

Why is coldly assessing worse case scenarios "fear mongering"?

It is what it is. Same as the cop injustices. Is it likely that you'll be beaten, shot or tased to death by a cop? No. Is the increase in incidents indicating a trend in the wrong direction? Yes, without a doubt, as far as I'm concerned.

I think there is an uptick of random and multiple shootings, especially by kids and teenagers that probably would not have happened, had it not been for an adverse reaction to these drugs.

 

[John F Kennedy III]

Whatever. All I know is that I am old enough to remember when crimes rates were higher, and there was more crime. There's no way to disprove the bizarre conspiracy theory stuff - "There's more crime but they're not telling us!" - but I'm not going to believe it, because from what I see, violent crimes are indeed trending down.

Of course, the Nancy Grace effect has all of the soccer Moms believing just the opposite.

Lol wow.

 

[John F Kennedy III]

Gotta love the establishment worshippers around here. If you don't, they'll pretend you're a nutjob conspiracy theorist.

 

[PaulConventionWV]

In the sense that they fuck up your body, and you have the stress in dealing with that, yeah they do effect your mind...in a bad way. However, they do not improve your thinking at all, as they advertised. Complete fraud.

"Altering" the mind is not the same thing as "improving" it. Donnay was specifying that these drugs do "alter" your mind in the sense that they change it in some way.

 

[PaulConventionWV]

It's a tongue in cheek cautionary tale.

Why is coldly assessing worse case scenarios "fear mongering"?

It is what it is. Same as the cop injustices. Is it likely that you'll be beaten, shot or tased to death by a cop? No. Is the increase in incidents indicating a trend in the wrong direction? Yes, without a doubt, as far as I'm concerned.

I think there is an uptick of random and multiple shootings, especially by kids and teenagers that probably would not have happened, had it not been for an adverse reaction to these drugs.

The "fear mongering" is the result of a real and present danger, not made-up WMDs or similar fairy tales.

 

[Chrysamere]

Gotta love the establishment worshippers around here. If you don't, they'll pretend you're a nutjob conspiracy theorist.

But you are a nutjob conspiracy theorist...

I won't love you any less for it though ;]

 

[tod evans]

Who here has actually consumed these drugs?

I stopped doing "downers" in the late 70's so I have no personal experience.

I'm pretty sure that even these "new" drugs have some similar effects, calm, slowed thought, reduced inhibitions to name a few....

And like the "old downers" I'm pretty sure withdrawal is a bitch!....Scattered thought, depression, anxiety etc.

In the old days 20-30mg of Valium and a few drinks would have strangers telling stories about your behavior weeks after the fact, all unbeknownst to you.

I'm firmly entrenched in the belief that people are responsible for their own actions, if you choose to ingest a chemical then don't blame the chemical for your behavior. Don't blame the doctors for providing a prescription that you asked for.

All of this feel-good, it's not my fault propaganda is BS.......if you eat downers you'll go down, if you eat speed you'll go up, acid..you'll trip....In the end you ate the damn drugs so own up for your behavior

Now parents who permit doctors to prescribe either uppers or downers for their kids are playing Russian roulette with their kids life! I am 100% against medicating children for behavior problems.

In the end the "murder and mayhem" must be blamed on the people who choose to ingest these drugs not on the doctors or drug companies.

This failure to take responsibility will only result in more unnecessary legislation and more loss of freedom!

 

[PaulConventionWV]

Who here has actually consumed these drugs?

I stopped doing "downers" in the late 70's so I have no personal experience.

I'm pretty sure that even these "new" drugs have some similar effects, calm, slowed thought, reduced inhibitions to name a few....

And like the "old downers" I'm pretty sure withdrawal is a bitch!....Scattered thought, depression, anxiety etc.

In the old days 20-30mg of Valium and a few drinks would have strangers telling stories about your behavior weeks after the fact, all unbeknownst to you.

I'm firmly entrenched in the belief that people are responsible for their own actions, if you choose to ingest a chemical then don't blame the chemical for your behavior. Don't blame the doctors for providing a prescription that you asked for.

All of this feel-good, it's not my fault propaganda is BS.......if you eat downers you'll go down, if you eat speed you'll go up, acid..you'll trip....In the end you ate the damn drugs so own up for your behavior

Now parents who permit doctors to prescribe either uppers or downers for their kids are playing Russian roulette with their kids life! I am 100% against medicating children for behavior problems.

In the end the "murder and mayhem" must be blamed on the people who choose to ingest these drugs not on the doctors or drug companies.

This failure to take responsibility will only result in more unnecessary legislation and more loss of freedom!

"Eat" is kind of a funny word to use in this context.

 

[tod evans]

"Eat" is kind of a funny word to use in this context.

Feel free to substitute snort, smoke or bang if it applies...

 

[Pericles]

In theory, anti-depressants are for people who are chronically depressed and they can't figure out why. Many times however, doctors are handing out anti-depressants for things happening in the real world. For example, if you have a hard time finding work and are depressed, a lot of doctors will prescribe anti-depressants. Now I'm pretty sure most people here can figure out anti-depressants are not the answer for that problem. A better solution would be to help these people find a career counselor or help them go back to school. Not popping pills.

Additionally, anti-depressants don't work...to top that off they cause numerous health problems. I'd rather live with mental problems, than live with mental problems and physical problems.

They did that with my GF - gave her a max dose of Cymbalta. Before the scip ran out, she killed herself. She never should have been on that stuff (I know someone else, bipolar his whole life, who was on the same dose and it did him some good).

 

[AuH20]

File this one under the obvious. Altering brain chemistry through excessive use of psychoactive drugs is not something I would recommend. I had a friend who destroyed his sense of wellbeing via excessive drug use, thanks in large part due to the depletion of dopamine.

 

[donnay]

In the sense that they fuck up your body, and you have the stress in dealing with that, yeah they do effect your mind...in a bad way. However, they do not improve your thinking at all, as they advertised. Complete fraud.

What I am saying is that if you take a mind altering drug you may do things, whether good or bad, without even knowing it. It screws with peoples minds in ways that many people do not even have recollections of what they did or are doing.

They tell people not to drive drunk--correct? Because it impairs their perception and alters their mind. Some drugs that are prescribe have warning labels on it not to drive or use heavy machinery--correct? Well when you take a psychotropic drug there are no warnings on it saying you should not drive, or use heavy machinery yet these drugs impair and alters peoples minds.

Many professionals like pilots and captains of ships are allowed to fly and navigate ships while on these psychotropics drugs. But they cannot smoke pot or drink before their shifts or while they work. Doesn't that seem quite contradictory?

 

[Sjuguy]

Who here has actually consumed these drugs?

I stopped doing "downers" in the late 70's so I have no personal experience.

I'm pretty sure that even these "new" drugs have some similar effects, calm, slowed thought, reduced inhibitions to name a few....

And like the "old downers" I'm pretty sure withdrawal is a bitch!....Scattered thought, depression, anxiety etc.

In the old days 20-30mg of Valium and a few drinks would have strangers telling stories about your behavior weeks after the fact, all unbeknownst to you.

I'm firmly entrenched in the belief that people are responsible for their own actions, if you choose to ingest a chemical then don't blame the chemical for your behavior. Don't blame the doctors for providing a prescription that you asked for.

All of this feel-good, it's not my fault propaganda is BS.......if you eat downers you'll go down, if you eat speed you'll go up, acid..you'll trip....In the end you ate the damn drugs so own up for your behavior

Now parents who permit doctors to prescribe either uppers or downers for their kids are playing Russian roulette with their kids life! I am 100% against medicating children for behavior problems.

In the end the "murder and mayhem" must be blamed on the people who choose to ingest these drugs not on the doctors or drug companies.

This failure to take responsibility will only result in more unnecessary legislation and more loss of freedom!

I have a prescription for Xanax for panic attacks. I don't take it more than once every 1-3 months. This stuff can become highly addicting, the feeling you get you can't really describe. Almost the ultimate relaxation. I also had a prescription for Effexor, took that for three days, and didn't even feel like a was living. Threw that prescription into the swamp and went through withdrawals after only taking it for 3 days.

 

[Acala]

Gotta love the establishment worshippers around here. If you don't, they'll pretend you're a nutjob conspiracy theorist.

It is beyond dispute that the government has spent billions of dollars developing mind altering drugs for nefarious uses. That almost certainly has involved the development of drugs that inclined people to murder and mayhem. I am with you up to that point.

But if the anti-depressant drugs being gobbled down by millions of Americans were the product of the government's black ops research, then all I can say is the taxpayers got ripped off again because the effect has been insignificant. Millions of people taking the drugs and a handful acting out violently is hardly what one would expect from the secret labs of the CIA, now is it?

Anti-depressants are, like most drugs, useful in some cases, not useful in most cases, and sometimes really bad. It isn't a conspiracy to destroy America. It is just the usual modern healthcare formula applied to mental illness with the predictable results.

 

[ItsTime]

List of Xanax side effects:

General Effects
1. Drowsiness
2. Dizziness
3. Decreased Alertness and Concentration
4. Lack of Coordination
5. Decreased Libido, Erection Problems
6. Depression, Disinhibition
7. Hypotension (low blood pressure)
8. Suppressed Breathing
9. Nausea
10. Changes in Appetite
11. Blurred Vision
12. Confusion
13. Euphoria
14. Depersonalization
15. Nightmares

Paradoxical Effects
1. Epilepsy
2. Aggression
3. Violence
4. Impulsivity
5. Irritability
6. Suicidal Behavior

Cognitive Effects
1. Cognitive Dysfunction
2. Visuospatial Memory
3. Visiomotor Coordination
4. Information Processing
5. Verbal Learning and Concentration

Long-Term Effects
1. Cognitive Dysfunction
2. Behavioural Problems
3. Feelings of Turmoil
4. Thinking Problems
5. Lack of Libido
3. Agoraphobia
4. Social Phobia
5. Increasing Anxiety and Depression
6. Loss of Interest in Leisure Pursuits and Hobby
7. Inability to Experience or Express Feelings
8. Altered Perception of Self, Environment and Relationships
9. Addiction


Case closed. They cause violence.

 

[Acala]

Who's talking about science? Do you have to have a peer-reviewed study for EVERYTHING you believe?

Human beings are, by nature, inclined towards developing post hoc causative narratives to make the world seem a more predictable place. I try to correct that bias in myself by not jumping to conclusions without adequate evidence. You may choose to do otherwise.

 

[DerailingDaTrain]

And how many of these over prescribed poor bastards would have been just fine if they could have smoked a joint or two and chilled?

To be honest this is what I do. I have the same problems as my brother and dad but I refuse to take any medication with horrible side effects. The harmful effects of prescription drugs have scared me into not wanting them in my body.