Ann Coulter on Stossel battles room full of libertarian students (updated w full show vid)

One more thing. I take a small comfort tonight in reminding myself and all of you that we are the future. Ours is the generation that will grow to take the reins of government in the coming decades. And there will be many more Andy Coulters in the lion's den, just as we saw in this vid. And much lulz will be had by all.

Well, that is if we can manage to make it through the next ten years or so, intact.
 
NorfolkPCSolutions said:
One more thing. I take a small comfort tonight in reminding myself and all of you that we are the future. Ours is the generation that will grow to take the reins of government in the coming decades. And there will be many more Andy Coulters in the lion's den, just as we saw in this vid. And much lulz will be had by all.

Well, that is if we can manage to make it through the next ten years or so, intact.
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The previous generation said much the same, and look where we are now. Change will not come about as long as most people are comfortable, not rich, but in not in need either.
 
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RickyJ said:
The previous generation said much the same, and look where we are now. Change will not come about as long as most people are comfortable, not rich, but in not in need either.
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Speaking as a man with two jobs, no money, and very little free time, I know that I represent a growing portion of Americans. Where I live, most of the people who are comfortable, not rich, but not in need either, are in their 50s and above. Folks like myself, in their 20s and 30s, however, haven't had the benefit of time to amass savings, investments, or anything that makes a person "comfortable," as you define it. And we aren't comfortable, no, not at all. And we know it's likely going to get worse before it gets better.

Yours is a good point, and well taken; however, despite the fact that events external to the young family - like mine - such as the economy and the growing police state, are not conditions unique to this age, but the boldness with which our liberties are being stripped away, the utter shambles that is our economy and job market due to factors such as Obamacare, the collapse of the housing market - we're seeing the same film as the previous generation, but we're getting it in Hi-Def with 7.1 surround sound, if you know what I mean.

No one I know remembers things being as bad as they are now, even under Carter.
 
noneedtoaggress said:
Can you vote on whether you want to kill all the Jews in your state?

Would that be legitimate? Why or why not?

What if your State Constitution expressly stated that Jews had no rights within that territory because a majority agreed to put it there?

Would that make it legitimate?
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Maybe if I had a degree in Constitutional law I could sort all of this out for you. Whether you agree, or whether or not you like it, my opinion is that the 10th Amendment gives states the power to decide the legality of drugs, abortion, etc. That's how the text of the 10th Amendment reads to me....whether it's right or wrong, I'll leave that to the better educated people on this board to argue.
 
noneedtoaggress said:
What if your State Constitution expressly stated that Jews had no rights within that territory because a majority agreed to put it there?

Would that make it legitimate?
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It instantly becomes subject to the powerful "free market" competition from the other 49 states and likely completely non-viable. And, in this case, the federal constitution.
 
NorfolkPCSolutions said:
One more thing. I take a small comfort tonight in reminding myself and all of you that we are the future. Ours is the generation that will grow to take the reins of government in the coming decades. And there will be many more Andy Coulters in the lion's den, just as we saw in this vid. And much lulz will be had by all.

Well, that is if we can manage to make it through the next ten years or so, intact.
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Unfortunately, many of the millenials are more delusional than the baby boomers.
 
AuH20 said:
Unfortunately, many of the millenials are more delusional than the baby boomers.
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It's a lot easier to see now. [I believe] They aren't exactly hiding shit. [hell they usually have press conferences on it] Not to mention the internet has made information infinitely more available.
 
cajuncocoa said:
Maybe if I had a degree in Constitutional law I could sort all of this out for you. Whether you agree, or whether or not you like it, my opinion is that the 10th Amendment gives states the power to decide the legality of drugs, abortion, etc. That's how the text of the 10th Amendment reads to me....whether it's right or wrong, I'll leave that to the better educated people on this board to argue.
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You can have whatever opinion you want, just realize that you're supporting mob rule and arbitrarily giving special power to groups that somehow allows them to infringe upon the rights of individuals simply because they are a big group.

What's the difference between a majority writing on a piece of paper that "within this territory X race has no rights", and a mob running around with pitchforks or a gang shooting at people for driving down the wrong street in their hood? Does it make a difference if the majority of the people within some territory want to take away the rights of someone else?

And you can't compare drugs to abortion. Drugs are inanimate substances and are not, nor ever will become, anything sentient much less a human being with individual rights. Drugs are no different from any other physical property. You have plenty of them in your medicine cabinet and kitchen right now.

Abortion gets tricky because it involves a living organism being supported by the body of another organism, both of which either are, or are at the very least have the potential to be, human with all the rights that entails. If we had the technology for all organisms to survive without the mother as a host body, clearly killing the organism would be immoral. Your stance basically supports people who would still want to kill this organism regardless of what stage it's in (even fully human, if they are considered "undesirable" by a majority), because you're supporting ignoring individual's rights over the "will of the collective".

You can't take away people's rights by writing it on a piece of paper and pretending it applies to everyone in your "hood", no matter if you're in a majority or not. If you do, then you're simply acting like a gang except you're attempting give a pretense of legitimacy by trying to make your criminal actions "legal". It's no different from setting up a kangaroo court to convict someone.

Believe what you want, but at least think about what it is you're really supporting, because when you support a platform for tyranny with your principles, it's inevitably going to be used against you rather than for you.
 
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anaconda said:
It instantly becomes subject to the powerful "free market" competition from the other 49 states and likely completely non-viable. And, in this case, the federal constitution.
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It may not survive, but that's not what I asked.

Can you take away people's rights by getting a mob together and writing it on a piece of paper, claiming it's legal? Is that legitimate?

Is it legitimate to get a majority to declare that they can infringe on the rights of a minority within a territory they happens to occupy and claim control over? How is that any different than mob rule? How is that not tyranny of the majority, and how is that legitimate?
 
John Bolton just makes me want to throw up whenever I listen to him.
 
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Wow. Even though I don't like him I thought Bolton defended his position pretty well up until the very end of that video which just left me speechless.
 
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