An Open Letter To Glenn Beck From The Libertarian Org Founder He Called A ‘Jerk’ And ‘Nazi

[Danan]

Do I expect anything different? Of course not. On the 1/100 th of 1% off chance that HE REALLY MEANS IT THIS TIME (lol) someone has to leave a door open. If he does have some kind of come-to-Jesus moment then he'd be pretty useful. So whatever. I drew him a path. Let's see if he owns it.

Nice letter!

1 is not 200 times smaller than 20, though.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

nice letter wishes glen bradley was running for office in colorado

If I wasn't flat broke and pouring my whole self into activism instead of employment, there's a pretty good chance I'd do just that.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Do you know who else was instrumental in the early days of the LP?

Yes, and Rothbard backed a number of conservatives in his days too. Additionally, I think it was one of Rothbard's articles that laid out who created the LP; that is how I found out who started it.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

Nice letter!

1 is not 200 times smaller than 20, though.

HA! Yeah, I was thinking one tenth of a percent and changed it to 1% to reduce confusion, and left the 200..... oops.

 

[speciallyblend]

If I wasn't flat broke and pouring my whole self into activism instead of employment, there's a pretty good chance I'd do just that.

since we cannot have you in every state. We should start an adopt a glen bradley program .giving county gops a blueprint on how to elect liberty candidates

 

[kcchiefs6465]

HA! Yeah, I was thinking one tenth of a percent and changed it to 1% to reduce confusion, and left the 200..... oops.

Lol. No worries. I didn't even pick that up when I read through it. Good letter. The day Glenn Beck has you on his show for the apology, I will eat my words.

 

[A Son of Liberty]

Yes, and Rothbard backed a number of conservatives in his days too. Additionally, I think it was one of Rothbard's articles that laid out who created the LP; that is how I found out who started it.

Laugh for once, LE.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

Lol. No worries. I didn't even pick that up when I read through it. Good letter. The day Glenn Beck has you on his show for the apology, I will eat my words.

LOL don't hold your breath, we need you alive...

 

[jmdrake]

Do I expect anything different? Of course not. On the 1/100 th of 1% off chance that HE REALLY MEANS IT THIS TIME (lol) someone has to leave a door open. If he does have some kind of come-to-Jesus moment then he'd be pretty useful. So whatever. I drew him a path. Let's see if he owns it.

+rep! I definitely am happy when someone like Michael Savage or Rush Limbaugh or Glenn Beck says the right things. But I'm not ready to embrace any of em. I like the point you made about building coalitions. That's what Ron Paul is great at. Beck attacked Paul for being on a committee with Barney Frank. If Beck really wants us to embrace him, he can't attack us when we work with other people on specific issues where we are in agreement. At least that's how I feel about it.

 

[sparebulb]

I sent him a message too:

That is a very good letter.

Coalition-building, under some conditions, is a good thing. However, remember that the consequence of coalition-building is modern-day Washington DC. Just think about what compromise one would have to make to become "partners" with Glenn Beck.

We need to lead by example, recruit our own, and realize that Glenn Beck is not a kingmaker. I support guys like Glen Bradley......not globalist-created media demi-gods. If the former would ever pander to the latter, my support instantly ceases.

We must quit seeking approval from the media/industrial complex and forge our own way. And no, I don't have the faintest idea of how to accomplish it. All I know is that Glenn Beck won't help.

 

[acptulsa]

I know you don't mean to imply that Glenn Beck is a paleocon.

That said, I see Beck as the one driving the wedge here. We've seen this song and dance before. He claimed he was becoming a "libertarian" then threw Debra Medina under the bus by tripping her up with a no-win question on 9/11 (denounce the truthers in your midst or face my wrath!). Then he went on to endorse Santorum and Bachmann of all people! (I don't think either of those are worthy of the paleocon label, especially Santorum.)

Hey, I'm a forgiving person. But Beck wants acceptance on his terms. When Saul became Paul he was humble about his past and he was understanding of those who couldn't just overlook that. He didn't just say "I accept Jesus now." but he admitted he was wrong for persecuting Christians. While I don't expect Beck to go that far, his lashing out at those who are still skeptical of him makes me the more skeptical of him. And what's with he and his cronies attacking Paul supporters who went out to OWS? Peter Schiff went out to OWS! Beck wants us to find points of agreement with him, but not find points of agreement with others? Beck, if you're really on our side this time welcome. But you can't dictate the terms of the relationship.

This.

I'll be damned if I stand idly by while Beck tries to define libertarianism, and in so doing tries to redefine me. And I'm surely not interested in him using the tired old divide and conquer strategy to seperate us from true, conscientious liberals who want a path to peace and who can see that the sort of socialism they crave is legal under the Constitution and the Ninth and Tenth Amendments. I think their states will ultimately fail, and I'm not worried about my state going down that path, but I try not to say that too loud. Besides, I'm not omniscient, and I don't know their states will fail. All I know is that federal level socialism is failing massively in no small part because it is essentially corporatism. Simply put, Washington goes to the highest bidder. That is why we must force them into inaction (once they've repealed the damage they've already caused).

For Beck to say we can't win and we must settle for the likes of Santorum or Romney is simply Beck carrying water for the establishment and trying to use the power of the numbers he can sway to create a self-fulfilling prophesy. If he cries when he does it, then he needs to put the Vick's away. If he sways some to lean toward Rand Paul, good. Let's hope we can be vigilant enough to convince them all that when (not if) Beck flips and says, hey, he can't win, he's dead wrong.

Rand Paul can win. He can't win without us. Maybe he can't win unless we focus on more important things, like eliminating Diebold from the process. But the man can win. And in the meantime, we can and should be working on making Congress all the more friendly to him.

Beck will drive wedges wherever he can, and he'll try to drive more wedges besides. He'll drive a wedge wherever he can think of to stick one. His true colors are evident enough. If we can all remember to say, well, on that I agree with Beck but I don't trust him an inch, perhaps the people who listen to him will learn to have enough sense to take him with the all-important grain of salt.

 

[Pericles]

I know you don't mean to imply that Glenn Beck is a paleocon.

That said, I see Beck as the one driving the wedge here. We've seen this song and dance before. He claimed he was becoming a "libertarian" then threw Debra Medina under the bus by tripping her up with a no-win question on 9/11 (denounce the truthers in your midst or face my wrath!). Then he went on to endorse Santorum and Bachmann of all people! (I don't think either of those are worthy of the paleocon label, especially Santorum.)

Hey, I'm a forgiving person. But Beck wants acceptance on his terms. When Saul became Paul he was humble about his past and he was understanding of those who couldn't just overlook that. He didn't just say "I accept Jesus now." but he admitted he was wrong for persecuting Christians. While I don't expect Beck to go that far, his lashing out at those who are still skeptical of him makes me the more skeptical of him. And what's with he and his cronies attacking Paul supporters who went out to OWS? Peter Schiff went out to OWS! Beck wants us to find points of agreement with him, but not find points of agreement with others? Beck, if you're really on our side this time welcome. But you can't dictate the terms of the relationship.

Actually, alcoholics are jedi masters at dictating the terms of a relationship. Try as one might, the past can never be entirely left behind.

 

[kathy88]

Actually, alcoholics are jedi masters at dictating the terms of a relationship. Try as one might, the past can never be entirely left behind.

As an alcoholic I can attest to the truth in this. Well put, Pericles.