Anita Andrews Campaign Claim- Verify and I'll Send RP a Check

[Slugg]

I have mad respect for SPirit of '76, so I thought a repost was called for.

Anita just left here.

She is legit. She's in it to win it. She has great ideas. If she comes to an area near you, go and meet her. If you can't go, find someone who has and discuss the strategy with them face to face.

As to the campaign in question here, we asked. She says that the reason you can't find a candidate campaign with the figures she quoted is because it wasn't a candidate campaign, and that few candidate campaigns ever even reach that kind of money. It was an issues campaign, but that was all she would say.

The rest of the presentation was so good that we didn't press any further on that question.

 

[Slugg]

She did say that her computer was once destroyed by sniper fire.

I told her to keep it away from the Grassy Knoll.

OR


The magic bullet also hit her in the head. It took 30,000 registered voters to clap before she came back to life.

 

[Spirit of '76]

I don't know where she comes from or if any of these stories are true.

I do know that I am willing to work with her because she presented a strategy that makes sense to me.

 

[Spirit of '76]

I have mad respect for SPirit of '76, so I thought a repost was called for.

Aw, shucks. :o

 

[Matt Collins]

I don't know where she comes from or if any of these stories are true.

I do know that I am willing to work with her because she presented a strategy that makes sense to me.

Exactly.

Her past does not necessarily invalidate her strategy.

 

[mdh]

I don't know where she comes from or if any of these stories are true.

I do know that I am willing to work with her because she presented a strategy that makes sense to me.

Yeah, for real - who cares if the stories are true if they help illustrate a point that we needed to get.

I hope the OP of this thread will followup as promised and make that contribution now that we've laid this to rest!

 

[libertarian4321]

Exactly.

Her past does not necessarily invalidate her strategy.

Sorry, but I don't respect con artists, even if they do have a few good ideas.

I simply don't trust shady or dishonest people, especially when there is no good reason to be dishonest.

But hey, millions of people are sucked in by the late night "get rich" con artists, because they too seem to have a "great strategy" to those who don't know better.

Again, if you are good, why do you need to make up stories, or be afraid to discuss at least SOME of your qualifications?

The woman sounds like a con artist, or, at least, an insecure liar trying to pump up her qualifications.

I'm not sure either of these is the kind of person that should be guiding the campaign.

Hey, if she comes here, I'll ask- and I'm not going to be assuaged by some BS "its a secret" type answer...

 

[libertarian4321]

Yeah, for real - who cares if the stories are true if they help illustrate a point that we needed to get.

I hope the OP of this thread will followup as promised and make that contribution now that we've laid this to rest!

Umm, no. In fact, I've heard nothing that convinces me this woman has ANY qualifications other than telling stories.

Hell, I'll even broaden my original pledge. If anyone can get her to tell us what "issue campaign" she won a big "upset" on with $300k versus $30 MILLION, I'll still donate.

Whoever goes to her next seminar, PUSH her on this, don't just shrink like frightened child as soon as she tosses out some line of BS...

 

[libertarian4321]

seems you know more than Dr. Paul. Why don't you run for President? And be your own campaign manager at the same time.


I am quite tired of people who have not been to any of her seminars talking trash about the Regional Coordinator; This from people who are just basing thing off rumor and word of mouth.

If she's not full of it, she could quell the talk by simply telling us what the campaign was where the headquarters got blown up, where she was hit by sniper fire, or answer the "30 million" question.

She's a political consultant, many of them play both sides depending on who is paying them, so this "well, she's afraid of alienating people" thing is TOTAL BULL CRAP- hell, if she gets hired by more than one side, thats a sign that she's GOOD at what she does. She's not the candidate, she's a hired gun! If she's a good hired gun, why is she afraid to mention anything about her past. Also, I'm still wondering why MY NAME turns up more hits on Google than hers does, and I'm not "famous".

FYI, James Carville's name turns up more than 1,000 times as many hits as Anita Andrews- and the ONLY politically related hits for "anita andrews" are hits from recent weeks from Ron Paul meetups.

A hired political gun who has a bunch of wild stories, is completely unknown to anyone and doesn't even register on any internet search, won't discuss her qualifications or her past except in the vaguest terms, and afraid of generating any controversy?

Gee, why am I skeptical?

Does this sound like any "hot shot" hired gun you've ever heard of before?

The fact that she's got some ideas that might sound good isn't a legitimate reason to dismiss skepticism- a lot of you folks have some good ideas, too, but I don't think you will be running the campaign anytime soon...

I'd LOVE TO BE PROVEN WRONG, but I doubt that it will happen.

 

[libertarian4321]

Did it ever occur to you that when negotiations were made between her and Ron Paul this was a method the RP campaign used to save some money?

I think you've probably inadvertently hit the nail on the head.

She is probably nowhere near as "good" or experienced as she claims. She is probably a nobody that works CHEAP, and is using a healthy dose of BS to pump herself up.

And I don't have a problem with having a third tier consultant working for the campaign. The campaign really doesn't have the kind of money that would be needed to hire a real top of the line consultant in any capacity, let alone as volunteer coordinator. I do have a big problem with dishonesty, though.

I'd rather work with an inexperienced HONEST person with good ideas than an inexperienced BS artist with good ideas.

But thats just me, maybe I'm crazy, but I think ethics are important.

Again, I'd love to be proven wrong...

 

[Richandler]

Campaign is only as good as the foot soldiers. Looking at this topic I would think that Ron Paul should have dropped already from all the negative attitude.

Support the campaign. That is all that is asked. No more back talking and go hand out slim jims.

 

[Nefertiti]

Reports are that she also claims to have worked for a campaign where the headquarters were blown up.

I can't believe that supposedly rational people can so easily look past these obviously false or at best extremely dubious claims.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

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"Reports are..." They do sound dubious. But since you didn't hear them from Anita herself obviously, how do you know she actually said this herself? Who is making these reports? Did you ever consider that all these stories could have been concocted by a mole from another campaign pretending to have heard her say these things? It just takes one liar to start a rumor about someone and to believe stuff without hearing it from the horse's mouth is irrational and harmful to the campaign. If you don't trust Ron Paul's judgment in hiring her then why do you trust his judgment to be our president and choose a cabinet? I really do not see how you can be a Ron Paul supporter and believe these things about her.

 

[Nefertiti]

If she wants a NDA that is her business. I have no problem with her wanting it. I have a problem signing it to recieve whatever information she wants to give.

Did you ever stop to consider that it may not have been her decision to have people sign a NDA? Maybe it was someone else in the campaign or RP himself?

 

[orenbus]

morbid curiousity, what does Anita look like?

 

[agisthos]

People like libertarian4321 have no idea what they are talking about and are destructive to Ron Paul's effort to win the nomination. They have embarked on a deliberate smear campaign against Anita Andrews for god knows what reasons (personality disorder imo)

Well hear is something to think about -

Why would you ever consider voting for Ron Paul to run this country, when you can not even trust Ron Paul to hire someone to teach election winning strategies?

 

[Dustancostine]

Did you ever stop to consider that it may not have been her decision to have people sign a NDA? Maybe it was someone else in the campaign or RP himself?

Still doesn't make a difference. I still would not sign it to attend such a meeting. I will not open myself up to that liability.

 

[Nefertiti]

You are free not to attend. It makes me think of the time my father had to have a brain scan because he was having headaches. They wanted him to sign a waiver saying that he would absolve them of any responsibility if the dye they used harmed him, and he refused. They told him it would cost them $1000 to run the test and without the dye they might not get good results. He still refused, and so they had to go ahead and do it without the dye.

 

[Dustancostine]

Your right. And that is all that I am saying, is that I would not attend under those conditions. That it is my personal choice. That everyone else should make their own decisions based on their own circumstances. I am sure this Anita person is wonderful and her information good. I am just not going to sign a NDA.

 

[Spirit of '76]

Look, what the NDA specifically says is as that you agree that you are supporting Ron Paul to the exclusion of all other presidential candidates, that the information presented constitutes "trade secrets" belonging to the campaign, that you won't use those trade secrets for any other campaign or publish them in another format, and that you won't use/give them away for the benefit of other campaigns in the future.

I would hope that all Ron Paul supporters would be willing to agree to that much, at least.

 

[Dustancostine]

Spirit,

Can you upload a PDF of the NDA. That might change my mind if I actually could read it.

--Dustan