Anita Andrews Campaign Claim- Verify and I'll Send RP a Check

[Slugg]

BTW, I believe she is right. I realize that we can't depend on "True Believers" to put Ron Paul in the White House. We are going to have to appeal to the masses who care more about American Idol than they do politics.

Yup. I've spoken with no less than three adults (one works in a bank with an associates degree) who had no idea that our country was in debt. No clue. Sad, but those are the votes we need.

 

[murph]

I really find these threads about Anita Andrews to be amazing. It seems that among those who have actually met her and received the benefit of her experience and training, including me, the vast majority of the feedback has been positive.

.... But wait! She asks people to sign an NDA! How dare she! Didn't the campaign know that signing NDA's is #38 on my list of things I will never do?! Oh No! So many positive comments! These people must have been hypnotized! and ... and ... and ... I heard someone say somewhere that she claimed to have .... OMG!

Jesus people, don't look a gift horse in the mouth. Yes, the campaign is paying for her services, but you are getting the benefit of some excellent information, training and ideas for FREE. And guess what, you are free to make use of as much or as little of it as you wish.

 

[Nash]

No the controversy comes from her requiring people to sign no disclosuer agreements. With out that there probably wouldn't have been a problem. I can gaurantee that I will not go to one of her meeting under those kind of conditions. I would not go to a campaign meeting headed by Ron Paul under those kind of conditions.

Did it ever occur to you that when negotiations were made between her and Ron Paul this was a method the RP campaign used to save some money? Perhaps she's doing this for less money with the provision that her materials that she has created weren't pirated.

While I am not a fan of "intellectual property" and NDA's I still can see her POV on the matter.

Everything I've read regarding feedback about her ideas has been positive. It sounds like she knows what she is doing and it sounds like she is a benefit to the campaign.

 

[Matt Collins]

Guess about what? What difference does it make whether she is married or has kids? How does it impact her doing her job? Why is it your business to know? I thought everyone here supported the idea of preserving people's privacy but you now are complaining you can't find enough private information about someone who works for Ron Paul and suggest that is a reason to be suspicious of her?

Did you ever read my posts?

I was only offering a possible explanation as to why no one could find any information about her on the Net.

 

[Dustancostine]

Then you're acting like a 12 year old, and you're punishing nobody but yourself.

There's official campaign stuff in the packet that hasn't been released yet. She'd be retarded if she didn't insist on keeping it quashed until the right time.

Get over yourself.

I am not punishing anyone not even my self. I am protecting myself from liability. It is stupid in my opinion to sign such an agreement in a volunteer circumstance (if I was being paid by RP that is a different animal).

I am in no way suggesting others to do the same. It is their choice if they want to do so or not.

If she has copywritten her material then that should be enough.

That is my 2 cents, I am not acting like a 12 year old, I am weighing the cost/liabilites of signing such a document and everyone else should as well and see if that is something they want to do.

Sorry if I am not a lemming.

--Dustan

 

[OURPLAN]

Amen Murph! What a grand opportunity it is, to be a part of RP's crusade! Bring on the unregistered and the undecided.
To deliver Ron Paul's message is history in the making, and probably one of the
greatest experiences of my life.

So, let's all be lovely, work hard, & have fun!!!

 

[McDermit]

You won't find everyone's name on the internet, especially if they are older. Try Googling some high school classmates, even the males, and you may find nothing on them.

My dad ran for state senate back in the 80's. His campaign consultant, though retired in '89, is still mentioned on more than 100 websites.

Someone of Anita's calibre should certainly be expected to be mentioned somewhere.

 

[Dustancostine]

Did it ever occur to you that when negotiations were made between her and Ron Paul this was a method the RP campaign used to save some money? Perhaps she's doing this for less money with the provision that her materials that she has created weren't pirated.

While I am not a fan of "intellectual property" and NDA's I still can see her POV on the matter.

Everything I've read regarding feedback about her ideas has been positive. It sounds like she knows what she is doing and it sounds like she is a benefit to the campaign.

If she wants a NDA that is her business. I have no problem with her wanting it. I have a problem signing it to recieve whatever information she wants to give.

I am sure she is a good person, I am not casting any doubt on her abilities.

--Dustan

 

[Matt Collins]

Someone of Anita's calibre should certainly be expected to be mentioned somewhere.

Which is why I think she is using a different name due to divorce (or other circumstances).

 

[OURPLAN]

Let's put a fork in the name game, and call it Well-Done.


RonPaul2008

 

[McDermit]

I love how people are so quick to squash legitimate questions without providing answers. There's nothing wrong with curiosity. There are no claims doubting her allegiance to the campaign here, just people wondering what campaigns she's worked on. If someone tells me that they worked on such a hugely successful campaign, I want to know more.

 

[Spirit of '76]

Anita just left here.

She is legit. She's in it to win it. She has great ideas. If she comes to an area near you, go and meet her. If you can't go, find someone who has and discuss the strategy with them face to face.

As to the campaign in question here, we asked. She says that the reason you can't find a candidate campaign with the figures she quoted is because it wasn't a candidate campaign, and that few candidate campaigns ever even reach that kind of money. It was an issues campaign, but that was all she would say.

The rest of the presentation was so good that we didn't press any further on that question.

 

[Mr. White]

translation, it was counter to one of rp's ideals. but thats okay.

 

[McDermit]

Someone mentioned elsewhere that it was a state constitutional amendment campaign..

 

[Spirit of '76]

translation, it was counter to one of rp's ideals. but thats okay.

That's a huge leap of logic on your part, but that's ok.

 

[dircha]

Reading the threads about AA, some folks that went to the meetings said she claimed to have "won a campaign where she was outspent $30,000,000 to $300,000".

So, heres the deal: If anyone can find any campaign that fits the claim that Anita Andrews allegedly made, I'll send the Ron Paul campaign another $250 AND I'll never question her qualifications again.

Reports are that she also claims to have worked for a campaign where the headquarters were blown up.

I can't believe that supposedly rational people can so easily look past these obviously false or at best extremely dubious claims.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

It doesn't matter how reasonable or appealing her guidance or strategy seems. These are clearly false claims. This is is very possibly a scam artist peddling armchair campaign strategy, which, while no doubt impressive sounding to the inexperienced ear, is a scam to swindle money, if only a salary for now, from the national campaign.

And yet we have people on these very forums trying to shut down discussion of what are obviously false claims made by this woman.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

To anyone who has attended one of these sessions, be aware that even if you have signed a NDA, she can not prevent you from passing along biographical information that is public knowledge or a matter of public record.

If she has made any additional biographical claims of these sort, please share them so that we can assist in verifying their authenticity.

 

[Matt Collins]

As to the campaign in question here, we asked. She says that the reason you can't find a candidate campaign with the figures she quoted is because it wasn't a candidate campaign, and that few candidate campaigns ever even reach that kind of money. It was an issues campaign, but that was all she would say.

I think it was an abortion issue campaign according to some of the things she said, but I can't be sure. And if that is the case, then it would be wise for her not to disclose that simply because it would alienate many people. On the other hand, being mysterious and secretive tends to alienate people too...


Regardless, her past doesn't invalidate her strategy.

 

[austin356]

No the controversy comes from her requiring people to sign no disclosuer agreements. With out that there probably wouldn't have been a problem. I can gaurantee that I will not go to one of her meeting under those kind of conditions. I would not go to a campaign meeting headed by Ron Paul under those kind of conditions.

lack of irrationality here?????


If I were her I would have people sign NDA's; Why legally allow someone to take what they learned from her and use it to help Romney?


I mean my God; We had anarchists at our meeting and they had no trouble signing such. It even being an issue is just childish and pathetic.


Unless you are a plant or go out and make thousands of copies of her binders and sell it to others do you really think she is coming after you?

Who are you planning on disclosing this material to anyways?

 

[Matt Collins]

If she has made any additional biographical claims of these sort, please share them so that we can assist in verifying their authenticity.

She did say that her computer was once destroyed by sniper fire.

 

[austin356]

Reports are that she also claims to have worked for a campaign where the headquarters were blown up.

I can't believe that supposedly rational people can so easily look past these obviously false or at best extremely dubious claims.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

It doesn't matter how reasonable or appealing her guidance or strategy seems. These are clearly false claims. This is is very possibly a scam artist peddling armchair campaign strategy, which, while no doubt impressive sounding to the inexperienced ear, is a scam to swindle money, if only a salary for now, from the national campaign.

And yet we have people on these very forums trying to shut down discussion of what are obviously false claims made by this woman.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

To anyone who has attended one of these sessions, be aware that even if you have signed a NDA, she can not prevent you from passing along biographical information that is public knowledge or a matter of public record.

If she has made any additional biographical claims of these sort, please share them so that we can assist in verifying their authenticity.

seems you know more than Dr. Paul. Why don't you run for President? And be your own campaign manager at the same time.


I am quite tired of people who have not been to any of her seminars talking trash about the Regional Coordinator; This from people who are just basing thing off rumor and word of mouth.