American Killed in Libya protest over film

RIP Ambassador Stevens and the other victims

these reactionary nuts like Pamela Gellar and others have really created us more enemies since 9/11. We need to stay the hell out of these Muslim countries and leave them the hell alone. Enough is enough.
 
Did they really kill these people over nothing more than a video? If this is true, then fuck those lunatics. But something tells me that the video is just the western media's scapegoat. Anyone know?
 
Did they really kill these people over nothing more than a video? If this is true, then fuck those lunatics. But something tells me that the video is just the western media's scapegoat. Anyone know?

I think the date of the attack is more relevant.
 
US ambassador 'killed in Libya'. US consulate Benghazi stormed. 4 US officials "dead"

BBC: US ambassador 'killed in Libya'
The US ambassador to Libya has died after being attacked by militiamen storming the US consulate in the eastern city of Benghazi, reports say.

I am shocked and horrified at this and my sincere condolences to our American friends and loved ones.

This incident confirms my concerns that diplomatic missions in "war-on-terror" countries are not being properly secured by being located in properly secured and defended military bases.

This reminds me of the storming of a UN base in Mazar-e-Sharif when 7 UN workers were killed in April 2011. The guy responsible at the time for UN security - Gregory B. Starr, the United Nations Under-Secretary-General for Safety and Security, is an American who used to be employed as the person responsible for the security of US diplomatic bases.

I have further concerns that the US & NATO countries' military these days lack the military knowledge and competence even to able to secure our military bases. Bases can't be properly secured in or near an urban area. You need a security zone of cleared and controlled ground of at least 6 miles, but 10 miles is better, around a military base to keep enemy fire from rockets and mortars out of range.

If you don't control the ground around a base this happens - 3 were killed at Bagram Air Base, Afghanistan yesterday.

Afghanistan Attacks: Insurgents Attack Bagram Air Base

KABUL, Afghanistan -- Afghan insurgents bombarded a U.S. base and destroyed a NATO helicopter, killing three Afghan intelligence employees, officials said Tuesday. There were also NATO personnel aboard and wounded, the coalition said without providing further details.

We've been at war in Afghanistan for nearly 11 years now and still the US and NATO military are operating out of insecure bases! Our supply routes in Afghanistan have never been secured and recently a decision by NATO-ISAF (commanded by a US general) was taken to close bases along the main highways in Afghanistan making the roads even more insecure.

The military and security leaders we are depending on to keep our personnel safe during this war on terror are incompetent and our diplomats would be well advised to have no faith in them. If I was a diplomat in a country with security problems I would quit and come home until we get proper military and security people in charge.

So there is a pattern here of incompetence at the very highest levels of leadership in the United States, NATO and the United Nations.

The people in charge are incompetent and this is very serious folks. We need urgent action to get competent people in post. We need a shake up at the highest levels of government on the military and security side especially. This can't be allowed to go on.
 
Did they really kill these people over nothing more than a video? If this is true, then fuck those lunatics. But something tells me that the video is just the western media's scapegoat. Anyone know?
No, this going on as they're trying to set up their new government during what a Libyan reporter said was their liberty "revolution", and was done by a fringe element, rather than the majority who've been fighting for a new government.

We're all alike more than we think (with the Libyans, not the fringe who committed the violence)
 
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Did anyone watch Hillary Clinton PR rebuttal to the attack in Bengazi?

110% pure Bullshit Propaganda

But she was stupid enough to revel classified info that Ambassador Stevens was covertly snuck into Bengazi on a cargo ship in the planned overthrowing of the Qaddafi family in March 2011.
 
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A California man who self identifies as an Israeli Jew directed the film. I believe it was financed by a group of 100 or so Jewish people. Apparently he is 'in hising' and scared for his life.

Once again, American blood is spilled for a Zionist cause.

You won't hear him say anything about this California Israeli Zionist lacking religious tolerance!

Also "An Opportunity Yesterday To Teach The Muslim World" is pretty patronizing.

Of course the fault is with the guy who made the shitty movie and not the people who did the killing.

You are right RonRules the real issue is that "this California Israeli Zionist lacks religious tolerance".

This is Liberty Forest - a place where liberty reigns supreme and we cherish the first amendment - unless you are a Zionist and/or criticize Islam.

There are about 3,000 posts over at HuffingtonPost saying this Israeli Zionist and everyone involved with the movie should be charged with murder. Other posts are questioning why our government even allowed it to happen.

Just like South Park - only Mohammed has the power to not be made fun of.
 
This IS why it happen...BLOWBACK (WAITING FOR: former CIA chief Michael Scheuer interviews... but I think Fascist TV will black him out)

The very person who illegally entered Libya and directed the terrorists to overthrow the government in charge of Libya in March 2011... John Christopher Stevens the Invaders destroyed much of the country... my god, look! The death and carnage brought upon this nation, it doesn't take much to incite ANY crowd in ANY country. Now you know why DHS and every other police state apparatus is jumping on anyone domestically who may incite others.

and this that followed:

"Libya: One Year On," by T.J. Coles

It is utterly important that the details of the 2011 US/Israeli/NATO destruction and continuing occupation of this peaceful country be documented for the historical record. While many examples exist of the old adage, "The victor writes the history," the "victor" no longer has control of the press as it once did. While they can continue to write their revisionisms (deceptions), the alternative media now has truth-to-power in producing permanent records of what has really happened in the imperialist barbarism executed against sovereign nations like Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya.
Humanity is indebted to T.J. Coles and other scholars for their pain-staking, exhaustive research and comprehensive coverage of these wars. The history being written today is not only in words but also in images. We include a few of them below and some are graphic. The war crimes of the US, Israel and NATO in Libya are staggering and thus far have been carried out with impunity. But if this weary old planet survives their economic and environmental crimes, history will judge them, their decision-makers and the corporate cabal that funds their wars ... and without mercy.

Oil Execs Reportedly Discussed Terrorist Fines With Qaddafi
]Thursday, March 24, 2011

In 2009, Libyan dictator Muammar Qaddafi reportedly called a meeting of executives from 15 foreign oil companies doing business in his country to force the companies to pay $1.5 billion in fines Libya was facing related to the 1988 bombing of Pan Am Flight 103 over Lockerbie, Scotland and other terrorist acts. The news was originally reported by the New York Times, which cited industry executives, American officials and State Department documents. The Times report did not specifically mention any of the 15 companies that participated in the meeting with Qaddafi, but did say that while most of the companies scoffed at the proposition, several, including U.S.-based firms, appeared willing to go along with the plan.
BP (BP), Europe's second-largest oil company, has been trying to boost its presence in Libya and last year, press reports noted the company had been tied to securing the release of one of the terrorists with ties to the Pan Am bombing in order to gain favor in Libya.
The Times articles lists a group of well-known American companies that have been trying to do business in Libya in recent years. Energy names found on the Times list include Halliburton (HAL), the world's second-largest oil services company, and ConocoPhillips (COP) and Occidental Petroleum (OXY), the third- and fourth-largest U.S. oil companies, respectively.
Eni SpA (E), Italy's largest oil company and the Western oil major with the biggest Libyan footprint, was not mentioned in the Times piece. Libya, an OPEC member, is Africa's third-largest oil producer behind Angola and Nigeria and home to the continent's largest oil reserves. Total SA (TOT), Frances largest oil producer were very active in Libya.


- Les Blough, Editor

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Sorry lady, you gonna get freedom whether you like it or not!
 
Where is the narrative coming from that this video had to do with the attack? Did any of the attackers mention this video?
 
There is no reasoning with savages. Leave their countries. Leave their resources alone. Leave. This isn't a national security issue unless you have friends in high places who have an economic interest in these particular locales. :)
 
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From CNN:

The consulate was one of several American diplomatic missions in the Middle East to face protests Tuesday after the release online of a film mocking Islam and depicting the Muslim prophet Mohammed as a child molester, womanizer and ruthless killer.

But a London think tank with strong ties to Libya speculated Wednesday that Stevens was actually the victim of a targeted al Qaeda revenge attack.

The attack "came to avenge the death of Abu Yaya al-Libi, al Qaeda's second in command killed a few months ago," the think tank Quilliam said Wednesday.

It was "the work of roughly 20 militants, prepared for a military assault," the think tank said, noting that rocket-propelled grenade launchers do not normally appear at peaceful protests, and that there were no other protests against the film elsewhere in Libya.

The planned attack came in two waves, one which prompted U.S. officials to leave the consulate for a secure location, and the second directed at the place of retreat, Quilliam said.

The think tank cited unnamed sources on the ground in Benghazi and abroad.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/12/world/africa/libya-us-ambassador-killed/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

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[Updated at 12:11 p.m. ET] Tuesday's attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya, was planned in advance, and the attackers used the protest outside the consulate as a diversion, U.S. sources told CNN Wednesday.

The sources could not say whether the attackers instigated the protest or merely took advantage of it. The sources do not believe Ambassador Chris Stevens was specifically targeted.

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/09/1...lled-in-rocket-attack-witness-says/?hpt=hp_t1
 
From CNN:

The consulate was one of several American diplomatic missions in the Middle East to face protests Tuesday after the release online of a film mocking Islam and depicting the Muslim prophet Mohammed as a child molester, womanizer and ruthless killer.

But a London think tank with strong ties to Libya speculated Wednesday that Stevens was actually the victim of a targeted al Qaeda revenge attack.

The attack "came to avenge the death of Abu Yaya al-Libi, al Qaeda's second in command killed a few months ago," the think tank Quilliam said Wednesday.

It was "the work of roughly 20 militants, prepared for a military assault," the think tank said, noting that rocket-propelled grenade launchers do not normally appear at peaceful protests, and that there were no other protests against the film elsewhere in Libya.

The planned attack came in two waves, one which prompted U.S. officials to leave the consulate for a secure location, and the second directed at the place of retreat, Quilliam said.

The think tank cited unnamed sources on the ground in Benghazi and abroad.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/12/world/africa/libya-us-ambassador-killed/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
Pentagon coverage about Defense Cuts... Didn't Bush ramp-up terrorism in the 2004 re-election campaign a couple months prior to the election? YES

More Political KABUKI Theater coming to your eyes and ears...


12 September 2012 - 18H48
Tunis police disperse protesters outside US embassy
Two vehicles drive past the United States embassy in Tunis in 2003. Police on Wednesday fired tear gas to disperse hundreds of Salafist demonstrators outside the US embassy in Tunis gathered to condemn a film deemed offensive to Islam, an AFP photographer said.




AFP - Police on Wednesday fired tear gas to disperse hundreds of Salafist demonstrators outside the US embassy in Tunis gathered to condemn a film deemed offensive to Islam, an AFP photographer said.

He said the intervention came as the demonstrators, estimated to number 300, started to try to break through the gates of the embassy compound after having demonstrated peacefully for several hours outside.
 
The planned attack came in two waves, one which prompted U.S. officials to leave the consulate for a secure location, and the second directed at the place of retreat, Quilliam said.

That part and more are now gone from the article if they were there on that linked page to start with. Did that come from someplace else? Or did they change the article to remove it?
 
There is no reasoning with savages. Leave their countries. Leave their resources alone. Leave. This isn't a national security issue unless you have friends in high places who have an economic interest in these particular locales. :)

Reminds me of this song from Pocahontas



They probably saying to themselves why wont these savages leave us alone. They killed our women and children, bombed our hospitals and utilities and on top of that killed our leader and then left us with their blood sucking Jihadist mercenaries friends to rule them. See how that works? We are the true savages in this case and its high time the savages leave them alone
 
You all know the FISA Act(SPY ON ANYONE ANYTIME ACT without Warrants) is up for vote in the CONgress today... it's a vote to renew/reauthorization for another 5 years.

Damn the Timing... Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act

PS: BTW, DHS has their bill submitted to the floor for vote today. It's called: Public Transit Security Bill to grant $$$ for states to fund/control all public transportation.
 
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That part and more are now gone from the article if they were there on that linked page to start with. Did that come from someplace else? Or did they change the article to remove it?

What I posted was just a copy and paste from the pages linked. The links should have taken you right to it. If it's no longer there verbatim it must have been changed.
 
From October, 2011:



From today:



This woman is a monster. Is it possible that she is more evil than Darth Cheney?
 
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