Age of Consent, Libertarians, and RP Forums - some clarification please

You are bringing up extreme scenarios that would rarely ever occur,...


This is the M.O. of Hank Richter. He had an account in 2015 (or 2014) and got nailed with neg reps for this stuff. He just created a new account. He thinks it's okay to shoot people crossing the Rio Grande. He posts these theoretical extremes not grounded in reality. He is simply posting baloney and not a liberty supporter.
 
I am using extreme examples because that is what the articles were about.


So you just repost stuff that you read? Baloney. You had an account in 2015 (or 2014) and posted this same crap. You tout rules like an authoritarian, but you break the rules here. You're bullshit. And frankly, you're not even good at it.
 
I mean just 18; the first time we had sex she had been of age for less than two months. Nothing we did was even remotely illegal, but had we met just sixty days earlier, it would have been. Does that make any sense at all? Was she really so different two months previous?

Makes zero sense, took you WAY too long to score ;)
 
You keep saying this like it has some bearing on what we're telling you. You keep coming back to chronological age as if it is the ultimate deciding factor, when it's obviously not.

You're 40 and you would "no way" consider a sixteen year old, but would you consider a 25 year old? 20? 30? Is there some hard and fast line you are willing to draw in the sand, never to cross, regardless of how awesome the woman is? I guess we all have our own biases. I've been with someone who was still "underaged" (two years younger than I, but stupid me I ended up marrying him a little later). I've been in a lovely relationship with someone whose age is almost precisely between mine and my mother's, but you would decide based on chronology that loving someone 14 years my senior means I have daddy issues and he's just a horny old goat.

The deciding factor should be the factors to the actual case in question. I haven't seen anyone here say that it's never a crime to sleep with a preteen, teen, etc.. I've seen people try to figure out how automatically assuming there's a crime based on the ages of the people involved has ever helped anyone.

You brought up the example of a 30-something year old and a mid-teen. Most likely, these people met in a school or activities director type setting. The original push for statutory rape laws was about coercion, which is likely to exist in that relationship. The established adult has some kind of leverage over the other person. That's never good, and can easily extend into two adults (or two children, but that's rarer). You don't need to assign each party a number for it to be a crime. On the flipside, I know it's impossible for you to realize this but there IS the possibility that it's a consensual relationship that isn't doomed to "rape" status. It's a very, very slim chance, given the almost non-existent number of wholesome places such a relationship could begin, but it's not utterly unheard of.

If you were her dad, what you're saying is that you'd drag your daughter through an embarrassing and damaging process to put someone behind bars that she doesn't feel has wronged her, all for the "she'll forgive me later" tough love lesson which is actually more likely to leave her damaged, feeling dirty, and always second-guessing her judgement. THEN she'll have daddy issues.

It's seriously as if you're afraid of prosecuting cases based on their individual merits.

Most of what you posted was regarding things I never even said, so I don't know WTF you are talking about, crazy enough I was actually agreeing with you to an extent, but now you've just gone off the rails.


So you just repost stuff that you read? Baloney. You had an account in 2015 (or 2014) and posted this same crap. You tout rules like an authoritarian, but you break the rules here. You're bull$#@!. And frankly, you're not even good at it.


???? Come again? No, I wasn't here in 2014, what are you talking about? A little while in 2015 I think, not sure when my old acct was active off hand. I "posted the same crap", not sure what you mean exactly???
 
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:rolleyes: A generation is 20 years. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation Your cousin is not a generation older than his girlfriend and unless he was having kids at 12 he is not old enough to be her father.



Abraham was old as dirt when he and Sarah had Isaac. When she died he married another woman and had kids. That other woman was most likely young enough to be his daughter. While I don't think is a great idea for there to be a 20 year discrepancy between partners, I know of no religion that forbids it. Feel free to start your own.

To my knowledge the only Biblical requirement is that pre-pubescents cannot get married.
 
I'm gonna share a confidential formula, for a potential (successful) marriage:

Men, take your age, divide by 2 and add 7. That is the age of the woman you should be looking for, also here is an informative video:



Thank you, that equation is indeed infallible. I have pushed its limits and so far, so good.
 
To my knowledge the only Biblical requirement is that pre-pubescents cannot get married.

the only place you'll find that suggestion is in the Talmudic commentary by Rabbi's.

The closest you'll get in the bible is Ezekiel 16

"Later I passed by, and when I looked at you and saw that you were old enough for love"

If you seek the age of Mary when she gave birth to Jesus, most scholars will put it at 13 or 14.

At the time most women were engaged by 12, relationships consummated upon first mensus.
 
Libertarians don't support statist witch hunts by foaming-at-the-mouth morons. Even if it's to 'protect the children' or whatever such nonsense.

My advice, Hank, is to go to the Trump forums where you belong. You can puff your chest out and talk about how tough you are because you want big daddy government to murder the child molesters, Muslims, Mexicans or whoever else you want your state masters want to punish. And then, we wouldn't have to deal with your lies, deceptions and boneheaded crap anymore. Deal?
 
Most of what you posted was regarding things I never even said, so I don't know WTF you are talking about, crazy enough I was actually agreeing with you to an extent, but now you've just gone off the rails.

Which things did you not say? You said you would not consider a sixteen year old, so I asked where you draw your line. I further brought up your volunteered example of a relationship between two consenting adults that you characterized as someone who was horny getting together with someone who has daddy issues. You did bring up the example of a thirty-something and someone in their mid-teens. I pointed out how just the ages in question provide very little information about the individual case.

You have pointed out that you would undertake prosecution (or execution) of someone "sniffing around" your daughter, regardless of her feelings on the matter. It seems like you are willing to disregard the things I pointed out that can make going through that ordeal a much larger negative than a bad relationship.

And yeah, it still is as if you're afraid of prosecuting cases based on their individual merits.
 
You have pointed out that you would undertake prosecution (or execution) of someone "sniffing around" your daughter, regardless of her feelings on the matter. It seems like you are willing to disregard the things I pointed out that can make going through that ordeal a much larger negative than a bad relationship.

It just seems odd that Hank would have no problem with a fifty year old dude boinking his eighteen year old daughter. Diff'ernt strokes, I suppose.
 
And yeah, it still is as if you're afraid of prosecuting cases based on their individual merits.

There are people of a certain mindset, or limited intellect, who insist on X behavior must equate to Y punishment every time, no exceptions.......

Even the fucked up "Just-Us" system we all are currently saddled with isn't that myopic.......Just look at how they treat kops vs citizens.
 
Its funny how radically ideas on this used to differ. It used to be that people would get married as early as reasonably possible....

Not only that, but marriage to an established man - who would undoubtedly be older - was more desirable than a similarly-aged man of no means.
 
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