Afraid to be associated

somebody posted awhile ago that the C4L had found that people were afraid of saying they supported Dr. Paul on polling calls, etc. As they were afraid of being put on a list/to be identified.
 
People have disagreed with me all my life. It feels very comforting to know that there are many people who agree with me about what is happening to our economy.

Quite frankly I started seeing this economic crisis during the 90's cause I knew Clinton and Gingrich were giving away our jobs with NAFTA. Back then I had an accountant. I told her what I saw coming. She did not agree and we hotly debated about it.. About 3 months after I told her she called me up raving that I must be a genius to have been able to see what I saw. She worked for a big accounting firm had a fancy degree and was on the deans list blah blah blah you know the type. She also gave me money for telling her what i told her because of the protection she gave her clients and did my taxes for free until she moved. She wanted to know how I could see what I saw I told her I am a simple person and that is how I can see ahead.

I have very few needs and much less desires but freedom is one of my desires. I am not afraid to stand up for my freedom. I am not afraid to tell people what I think. I have made a lot of people very angry in expressing my views over the years. I have a theory about people getting mad over things I say about politics, religion, health, money, goods and services. Although I have always chosen to live with less money than my contemporaries and be freer concerning many things from mothering and relationships, to just choosing happiness over misery and pointing that out has really given me a lot of verbal abuse. People get mad when a lie in their thinking is confronted.

I have a had a few satisfying moments when people have apologized for jumping on my case and acknowledged i was right about something and what made them mad is when they saw what they were loosing by believe what they believed instead of what i believe to be true. So they are more mad at themselves usually...

I almost had a stroke when Bush jr got elected. it was more the way he was elected that was alarming to me and I could not believe people did not raise more hell about it. Especially Florida dam.

i support Ron Paul because I know he is right. As a free, simple ,creative, freedom loving, mind my own business, help friends and family and people on the side of the road, type person that I am; my heart and mind tell me
Ron Paul is right. I am not afraid to stand for what is right.
 
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I will absolutely, unabashedly take principles and critical thinking over groupthink any day.

Social pressure can not determine truth, it can only perpetuate lies... just like Democracy can't change the laws of nature.

And if they're more concerned about keeping up appearances than truth, why should I care about their opinion in the first place?
 
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I know a lot of people that support Ron Paul, are going to go out and vote for him in the primaries, and etc... They just aren't vocal about politics at all. I have other friends that are very vocal about it. I'm kind of in the middle of both extremes (being extremely vocal and not doing anything). I'm not the guy going around shouting Ron Paul down the street, but I'm not the guy that supports him and doesn't say anything. I just don't like to bring up politics to people that don't want to talk about it. If it comes up in conversation that I can go on forever. I just talk to people that are willing to talk about it. I don't know. I guess I'm just like a normal person lol.

I'm 20 so most people I know/talk to are somewhere between 18 - 30. The norm in this bracket (of the people I have talked to) is you either support Ron Paul or Gary Johnson on the Republican side or you support Obama. Generally anyone that supports lets say Bachmann, Perry, Santorum, or something is more of the oddity. I find it more common to hear, "You support Perry/Bachmann/Cain!? ARE YOU CRAZY!?"

Like my roommate for example is rather independent/undecided, but the only Republican he takes seriously/doesn't think is insane is Ron Paul.
 
I do some online gaming (TFC) and decided one day to type in Ron Paul 2012 Restore America Now! It turns out quite a few people on the servers I'm on like Ron Paul. One guy was as hardcore about it as I am, and I'd played with him for 6 months before I knew. lol You just never know were RP supporters'll turn up.
 
Most people I have talked to like Paul. The more we open up about it, the more comfortable others will be in voicing their support.
 
I'm not shy about my support for Ron Paul. I'm not fervent in my promotion of the fact either. I state my support as a matter of fact without trying to denigrate others or making a big case about the issues. I've talked to other Ron Paul supporters that get riled up way too easy. Nobody wants to be around that. Be calm. Be polite. Others will respond in kind. Brush off the insults that others hurl at Ron Paul. Be an adult. Set an example. Others will feel easier about supporting Ron Paul when they see his supporters are normal, rational people.
 
In my experience it is socially acceptable to be either apathetic or a 'progressive' as long as you don't talk about politics.

Anything else is usually a strike against you.

Hopefully that changes.
 
At work I got on the topic of Ron Paul with this lady who is die-hard Sarah Palin. I mentioned a lot of Ron Paul's main points and she replied:

"Yeah he seems nice, he believes in a lot of what Sarah Palin has to say- maybe she'll pick him as Vice President".

The same thing has been happening with the Bachmann crowd too. I don't know what it is but the tea party has nothing to do with the Ron Paul movement anymore and more to do with Neocons in sheep's clothing.

I try to tell these folks about the real deal but they look at me like I have three heads, what's the deal?
 
At work I got on the topic of Ron Paul with this lady who is die-hard Sarah Palin. I mentioned a lot of Ron Paul's main points and she replied:

"Yeah he seems nice, he believes in a lot of what Sarah Palin has to say- maybe she'll pick him as Vice President".

The same thing has been happening with the Bachmann crowd too. I don't know what it is but the tea party has nothing to do with the Ron Paul movement anymore and more to do with Neocons in sheep's clothing.

I try to tell these folks about the real deal but they look at me like I have three heads, what's the deal?

I'd be pretty happy. "May be vice president" sounds like a 2nd choice to me. Some of these people will be dropping out. That shows real movement from 08. I take it as a sign of progress and move on. Come back to them in the General :D
 
Walk and talk like you own the room and pretty soon you will own the room; Not with arrogance or haughtiness, but with grace and assurance of an idea whose time has come. Heads up folks we are near the tipping point. Remember who brought you to this point and keep promoting the people who stood when no one else stood so that others could see and respond.
 
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I unfortunately feel the same way. I try to keep my opinions to myself, especially as a college student, and especially when in class. I feel like if I were talking about supporting Romney or Perry, I'd be fine, and more than openly saying I support them. But right -- I feel the same way this person does. I feel like I'd be called "extreme" and nuts. So I tend to keep my opinions to myself.

I was admittedly surprised, though, a few days ago -- a professor had us submit inspirational quotes that inspired us. Quotes that really meant something to us. I submitted one by Ron Paul -- I wasn't about to lie, after all. I gave a decent explanation, and just plainly talked about why Paul's "Let it not be said that we did nothing" quote was important to me. She put it up on the board, as well as his name. I felt so awesome that day :D
 
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Judging by the fact that I haven't seen a single bumper sticker or sign yet, I think its safe to assume this is true.
 
Judging by the fact that I haven't seen a single bumper sticker or sign yet, I think its safe to assume this is true.

I hate to admit it but as I was sticking the official rp bumper sticker on my car this morning, I felt the need to use my body to block what I was doing from passerbys. It's a sad state of affairs that the media has us thinking this way. More reason why the black this out moneybomb needs to be huge!
 
I think those of us who were fighting passionately for Paul last go-round are a bit jaded. Four years ago we were consistently jeered for bringing up his name. It's just not the same now. No one scoffs now. The tone and the narrative differs so drastically this time around that it is going to take us a bit of time to adjust. It is now mainstream to question the economy, government involvement, taxation, regulation and the cost and importance of having a military presence all over the world.
 
/rant

I am really sick of cowards in the movement too! I have signs in my front yard for Dr. Paul! I wear T-shirts--PROUDLY! All my cars have "Ron Paul" bumper stickers! (Even with the scary MIAC Report and all the fusion centers across the country!). I go to town meetings wearing my shirts, and support Dr. Paul in any capacity I can muster--why? Because I know that liberty and freedom hang in the balance. I know that if we don't grow a pair now, you aren't going to grow a pair when it is needed. I need countrymen to stand up proudly for liberty and freedom, not sneak away to some hovel, hoping no one notices you, until the storm blows over!!

Those who are afraid of the repercussions--C'mon! What repercussions... that you will be labeled something or other? :rolleyes: Haven't you heard the idiom: "Sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never harm you!!"

"If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything!"

Everyone in this country rally's upon the ideals of American being the cradle of liberty--well, when the bow breaks the cradle will fall, and so shall this Republic, if you cannot muster enough courage to stand up, with your head held high, for liberty and freedom, and be counted!!

*SIGH*

/end rant
 
My perception preceeds my Ron Paul support. If you want to change the outlook of Ron Paul supporters, wear it proudly and it will happen naturally.
 
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