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Yeah, sounds like this was the female manipulating the guy into this situation. It was her plan from the beginning, and she found this guy was easy to manipulate.
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Well, as I suspected, and part of the genesis of the joke, there was going to be an issue about "seeing" this Muslim woman.
They haven't posted a photo and some angry twitterers are criticizing officials for not showing her face in what they speculate is "out of respect". Obviously they have at least a passport photo of her. They've posted what looks like his passport photo, I'm curious myself if it's official policy not to show this womans face.
They don't seem to have any problem with dragging her dead corpse onto the street uncovered, so what gives?
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Don't know. Interesting point though.
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Typical hysteria in the heat of panic.
Any more mentions of Saudi Arabia will be redacted.
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It seems that the ISIS tactic is to radicalize, and then let them pick the targets (with a lot of people). It appears that the Paris theater was chosen by locals. Same here. This dude was angry and disgruntled, which made radicalization an easy task, and he choose the large gathering hall (and his co-workers) as the targets.
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Strangely enough, the photo of the Jewish victim has been prominent, often the only victim shown in news segments.
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Back at his FBI office.
Of course, we keep hearing calls for more gun control, but keep in mind all the current laws that were broken to execute this violent massacre:
The shooters had semi-auto rifles they did not purchase (sounds like a straw purchase or illegal transfer).
The shooters modified the rifles to accept high-capacity magazines (illegal and CA).
The shooters modified or attempted to modify the rifles for automatic fire (illegal in the entire U.S.).
The rifles had both pistol grips and foregrips (illegal under CA law)
Like I posted, large magazine capacity semi auto and full auto rifles (so called assault weapons) are illegal in France. That didn't stop them from being used in two separate Paris attacks.
Can anyone think of a law we could put in place that these terrorists, or any criminal or homicidal maniac, would follow? I can't.
Also note how the MSM has characterized these rifles only as "legally purchased". Yeah, by someone else. They were illegal in CA, so sounds like there was an illegal transfer or straw purchase elsewhere along withthe illegal modifications under CA and U.S. law.
The gun control laws Obama is presently calling for in the wake of this slaughter were already in place in CA in regards to co-called assault weapons. Gun control only controls the law-abiding. Terrorists, criminals and lunatics will be able to get their guns. Cases in point: Russia has very strict gun control and a so-called assault weapons ban in place. Murder rate twice the U.S. Mexico has very strict gun control and a so-called assault weapons ban in place. Murder rate 5 times the U.S.
The shooters had semi-auto rifles they did not purchase (sounds like a straw purchase or illegal transfer).
The shooters modified the rifles to accept high-capacity magazines (illegal and CA).
The shooters modified or attempted to modify the rifles for automatic fire (illegal in the entire U.S.).
The rifles had both pistol grips and foregrips (illegal under CA law)
Like I posted, large magazine capacity semi auto and full auto rifles (so called assault weapons) are illegal in France. That didn't stop them from being used in two separate Paris attacks.
Can anyone think of a law we could put in place that these terrorists, or any criminal or homicidal maniac, would follow? I can't.
Also note how the MSM has characterized these rifles only as "legally purchased". Yeah, by someone else. They were illegal in CA, so sounds like there was an illegal transfer or straw purchase elsewhere along withthe illegal modifications under CA and U.S. law.
The gun control laws Obama is presently calling for in the wake of this slaughter were already in place in CA in regards to co-called assault weapons. Gun control only controls the law-abiding. Terrorists, criminals and lunatics will be able to get their guns. Cases in point: Russia has very strict gun control and a so-called assault weapons ban in place. Murder rate twice the U.S. Mexico has very strict gun control and a so-called assault weapons ban in place. Murder rate 5 times the U.S.
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And they just coincidentally train at the same locations where these extremely rare incidents happen? Pull the other one.
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Of course not, by definition.
There are laws that can help dissuade these criminals from acting, or at least make it less fruitful.
Here in Georgia, we have a town that has on the books a law requiring every homeowner to possess at least one firearm for home protection. I love that law.
That law could be expanded to workplaces.
I'm surprised the McDonald hasn't proposed The New American Cowboy Law, training and arming the citizenry, allowing concealed and open carry everywhere, and million dollar prizes for successfully defending against mass shooters.
The bad guys aren't backing down. Time for concerned citizens to step up.
I'm partially serious.
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Sounds like she grew up in Saudi Arabia. Lived there 25 years.
Exclusive: California shooter Malik lived in Saudi Arabia for years
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-california-shooting-pakistan-idUSKBN0TN1YX20151204
Also, no surprise.
Head-chopping Haji Headquarters.
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Immediately after CA tragedy that some are linking to mideast, Kerry's solution is to remove no.1 enemy of ISIS and Israel. Isn't this like saying :
"To Crush Al Qaeda, John Kerry Urges Deft Removal of United States's Regime"
To Crush ISIS, John Kerry Urges Deft Removal of Syria's Assad
New York Times-16 hours ago
NICOSIA, Cyprus — Secretary of State John Kerry said Thursday he ... can be reached to ease President Bashar al-Assad of Syria from power, ...
There is no evidence that neocons owners or any pro-war forces organized CA shooting to prepare public opinion for foots on the ground war against Syria's Assad. But this reaction is not logical.
"To Crush Al Qaeda, John Kerry Urges Deft Removal of United States's Regime"
To Crush ISIS, John Kerry Urges Deft Removal of Syria's Assad
New York Times-16 hours ago
NICOSIA, Cyprus — Secretary of State John Kerry said Thursday he ... can be reached to ease President Bashar al-Assad of Syria from power, ...
There is no evidence that neocons owners or any pro-war forces organized CA shooting to prepare public opinion for foots on the ground war against Syria's Assad. But this reaction is not logical.
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Well, it does kind of sound like from the article title that "In order to remove ISIS, we should destroy their enemy Assad, then they'll have no reason to fight."
But he's really saying that these supposed moderates will no longer have a reason to passively align with ISIS if there's a cease fire and everyone could focus on ISIS.
The narrative is BS, imo, though. This "political settlement" they're talking about is nothing more than chopping up Syria economically if not politically as well. And the US seems to be publicly saying Russia isn't doing much, but then taking all the credit for the progress against ISIS. US looks like a bunch of fools to those paying attention.
Probably ATF "Gun Walker" firearms.
I think you're on to something here. Did you read about the "alien hybrid" guy in Los Angeles that was found dead, with a 1000+ guns and literally tons of ammo stored in his house several months ago? If not, google it. Bizarre story but fits with the gun running angle.
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San Bernardino Shooting Declared ‘Act of Terrorism’
http://variety.com/2015/digital/news/san-bernardino-shooter-isis-facebook-1201653461/
http://variety.com/2015/digital/news/san-bernardino-shooter-isis-facebook-1201653461/
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Any reason you might have to think they didn't do it? People the main shooter worked with for five years identified him. These were co-workers he shot. They all knew him. Is it possible they got the "wrong guy"?
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I keep reading they wore masks.
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