A pocket 9mm is what you want.

twisted

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in a front pants pocket holster. With a bit of practice, you can learn to react to the beep of an electronic shooting timer, draw (starting hand in pocket, still concealed/discrete) and hit the chest of a man at 10 ft, in .70 second. Nobody, and I mean nobody, is anything like that fast with a ccw'ed belt rig, using realistic covering. Decorum, heat, cold, wind, rain, etc, often make you doff the coat, or fasten it, and there goes your "little finger brush" method of clearing the covering garment. So that draw is bs, plain and simple.

I"ve proven, in IPSC matches, that I've got as fast a draw and hit move as anyone alive, and I've never been able to average under .95 second for this test, with a hungout shirttail over an IWB rig, worn at the navel, with the hands starting at my sides. That is .10 or so seconds faster than anything else that is practical to wear ccw, at the belt. What you "jumped" (eliminating your .20 second reaction time) or bs stop watch timing said you did (ONCE) means nothing. If you can't average it, on demand, it's bs, so don't claim it.

Drawing "too soon" gets you a "brandishing" charge, and loses your ccw permit for you. It might even get you a felony charge of "aggravated assault". If you can't be bothered to keep a 13 oz Kelt tec single stack PF-9 in your pocket, you just don't care much about your safety, that's all. Nobody pays any attention at all to the fact that you have your hands, or one hand, in your pocket, so any time that you "smell a rat" or are exposed in any way, why not already have your hand on your gun, and leave the fumbling and poor grip on the gun and the snagging in the clothing, etc, of a "ccw belt rig fast draw" to the Walter mitty crowd?
 
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you're right - that is what I want!!!

Now to start a Chip-in. It will make me more valuable to the liberty movement, you know!
 
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.45 is what I want.
 
Sig p232. accurate, concealability, comfortable

and you look like James Bond

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.45 is what I want.

Same, in that I prefer the .45 over a 9mm. Both are man killers no doubt though.

I didn't think a lot of people messed with the mini 9s though, since that is a huge advantage of the 9mm in that you can carry almost 20 rounds in a full size weapon. As far as that fast draw stuff, I've never bothered with it myself. All I need to do, is shoot myself in the leg or worse.....lol
 
I currently carry a .40 in an IWB... but considering the pocket carry with a .22 which I am now convinced is a viable self defense round.
Might even carry both.
 
Can I get it in pink?

You can get the SIG 239 in pink - it is a .380 on the 1911 pattern. Pricey, though. For about half that I got an XD/40 Subcompact. Hits far harder and holds 10+1 with the short mag.
 
Actually,, a pocket pistol is very low on my list of "want".

If I ever carry a handgun I will have no need to conceal it.
though for even a backup hideaway,, I would want more Oomph.

If it is a hideaway it is going to be a surprise anyway,, not a main fighting arm.

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Actually,, a pocket pistol is very low on my list of "want".

If I ever carry a handgun I will have no need to conceal it.
though for even a backup hideaway,, I would want more Oomph.

If it is a hideaway it is going to be a surprise anyway,, not a main fighting arm.

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.45lc/.410
Don't recommend derringer's to people unless they know how to operate them. Once you've fired both shots, if you try to reload without retracting the hammer/engaging the crossbolt safety, it goes BOOM and you lose a finger or two. The firing pins don't retract automatically like other guns.

A better pocket solution is an NAA 5-shot single action in .22WMR. Smaller, just as quick (slow?) and .22's never stopped being deadly.
 
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