A fatal wait: Veterans languish and die on a VA hospital's secret list

[Brian4Liberty]

At the VA is is called hospice. One of my buddies was told he had at most 6 months (cancer) and he wasn't dying fast enough, so they put him on the hospice program after 8 months, and the hospice kept giving him fatal combinations of medications which his buddies (including myself) intercepted before he got stupid and took something he shouldn't. He was still alive 18 months after the diagnosis, with not much in the way of tumor growth, and we had finally gotten them to relent and do radiation on the two tumors.

He got pneumonia, and instead of antibiotics, the hospice gave him a strong narcotic, that in a weakened state, finally killed him.

SOP for terminal patients. Overdose of narcotics. It's called making them comfortable. Euthanasia is common in most every hospital, once it is determined that a patient is terminal. Is it a bad thing? It certainly is if the patient is not really terminal.

 

[FindLiberty]

Run away from the va...

Paperwork taking too long? [SFX: humming of X-Ray machine]
It reminds me of evil from these two back in 1942: Brack letter to Himmler

 

[RJB]

I'm sure the real heroes of the War (Haliburton CEOs) get medical care.

 

[Lucille]

US Senate to probe allegations against Phoenix VA
http://rationalreview.news-digests.com/archives/156010

"Growing concerns about allegations of gross mismanagement and neglect at the Phoenix VA Health Care Center have resulted in a commitment by the chairman of the Senate Veterans’ Affairs Committee to hold a hearing, members of Arizona’s congressional delegation said Thursday. ... Recently, the chairman of the House committee said the panel’s investigators concluded as many as 40 veteran deaths in Arizona could be related to delays in care. Phoenix VA Health Care System officials said they have asked for an external review by the Inspector General and will address any problems quickly." (04/24/14)

Iraq War veteran Derek Duplisea of Tucson testified during the field hearing that veterans are often at the end of their rope when they finally seek help from VA medical centers. They often experience “deep frustration and even despair if they are told to wait six weeks or longer to begin therapy,” he said.
[...]
Foote and other whistleblowers accused Arizona VA executives of collecting bonuses for reducing patient wait times, yet they charged that the purported successes resulted from data manipulation rather than improved service for veterans.

Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news...call-for-full-va-investigation/#ixzz30777iN1G
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That article has 2 comments. The one on the lesbian "throuple" has 263 and it was published a day later. Conservative priorities.

 

[LibForestPaul]

Nah, no flippant one word smart ass comment does this any justice.

And if he had gone down there and demanded something be done for, had gotten loud and combative at the medical fascists killing him through neglect, the cops would have shown up, and saved him the pain of dying from cancer.



Just doing my job.

Viewpoint of 49%, 51%, or 97%; only question left.

 

[LibForestPaul]

No tears will be shed when this country and its people burn.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Top page at Drudge 17 May 0230

 

[Occam's Banana]

My remarks aren't from callousness, I just cannot believe. Propaganda is of no little order. Of all the legless, mentally affected, melted, absent adequate, if any care, that this guy insisted only for the VA to provide care... I just don't know what to say. That was what my "freedom" was in regards to.

He bought into the lie that if he allowed the system to use him as fodder for its purposes, the system would "owe" him something afterwards - and that it would "make good" on that debt. Tragically - not to mention ironically - he ended up losing his life not to the enemies of the country he enlisted to defend, but to the very government of the country he enlisted to defend.

Guess who else got a bonus:

What could be worse than tax delinquent employees at the IRS getting big performance bonuses? How about the director of the VA hospital in Phoenix getting a $9,000 bonus after at least forty military vets died waiting for treatment at her facility… a horror kept secret by deleting their names out of the hospital database?

News of the bonus comes from the Washington Free Beacon: “Last year, Sharon Helman, the director of the Phoenix Veterans Affairs Health Care System, got a $9,345 bonus, in addition to her annual base salary of $169,900. Overall, leadership at the hospital was paid more than $700,000 in taxpayer money, according to publicly available salary data.”

But ... but ... "I feel very sorry for the people who work at the Phoenix VA," said Foote. "They're all frustrated. They're all upset. They all wish they could leave 'cause they know what they're doing is wrong. But they have families, they have mortgages and if they speak out or say anything to anybody about it, they will be fired and they know that."

US Senate to probe allegations against Phoenix VA
http://rationalreview.news-digests.com/archives/156010

Our heroes, coming to save the day!! (And just you and I never mind that there wouldn't be nearly so many veterans in need of medical care if it weren't for all the wars the assholes in the Senate and elsewhere keep getting us into ...)

That article has 2 comments. The one on the lesbian "throuple" has 263 and it was published a day later. Conservative priorities.

But don't you see? The only really important thing here is to have enough meat to dump into the meat grinder.
That's the priority. What eventually comes out of the meat grinder just isn't important ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRqCOIsTx8M

 

[donnay]

 

[angelatc]

On the McLaughnlin group this morning, Mort Zuckerman used this scandal as a rallying cry for a socialized medicine.

Seriously, we are so screwed on this it depresses me to no end. Every government solution messes the system up worse than it ever was. And the solution is always...."Moar gubmint!"?

 

[Anti Federalist]

On the McLaughnlin group this morning, Mort Zuckerman used this scandal as a rallying cry for a socialized medicine.

Seriously, we are so screwed on this it depresses me to no end. Every government solution messes the system up worse than it ever was. And the solution is always...."Moar gubmint!"?

Sooo...his answer to failed socialized medicine is...more socialized medicine?

Jesus weeping Christ.

 

[Deborah K]

On the McLaughnlin group this morning, Mort Zuckerman used this scandal as a rallying cry for a socialized medicine.

Seriously, we are so screwed on this it depresses me to no end. Every government solution messes the system up worse than it ever was. And the solution is always...."Moar gubmint!"?

War is peace doncha know?

Canada's socialized medicine killed my grandpa. The VA is doing what Obamacare will end up doing - putting off care for people who are no longer tax payers.

 

[Carson]

I don't really get it?

This sort of thing has been going on for about forever.

Then we get to where everyone allows for free public health coverage and basically putting themselves on the same sort of government plan and now they act shocked at the way they run. People have been pointing it out for years. Did they just smell the coffee?

 

[Deborah K]

Carson, what do you mean? No one that I know of in America has ever died waiting for care.

 

[Lord Xar]

Do you believe that the VA hospitals are just a mirror into the coming Obamacare system?

 

[kcchiefs6465]

Carson, what do you mean? No one that I know of in America has ever died waiting for care.

I believe he was more mentioning the shitty conditions of the VA hospitals going back (at least) to WWI.

It isn't a new occurrence. The soldiers are considered fodder. Once they get home, no politician legitimately cares about them. And as well, I'd imagine it is awful hard to provide care for someone with half of their face blown off, missing limbs, brain injuries, etc.

Whether or not some have died waiting for care I don't have a figure but I'd bet on it that they have. Whether that's from sheer incompetency or the VA being understaffed/overworked.

 

[kcchiefs6465]

Never forget.