5.56mm ammo to be federally banned

I haven't tried this but I'm pretty sure I can make pretty much any ammo "armor piercing" to some degree by simply putting the bullet into a lathe, boring a hole about halfway deep and inserting a tungsten rod with a sharpened tip. There are lots of tungsten TIG welding tips out there to make them from. Seems that if someone WANTS armor piercing someone will MAKE armor piercing...
 
I'm not a hardcore gun person so I'm curious... how hard is it to machine your own ammo?

Asembling ammo from commercial components - cases, bullets, primers, and powder - is EASY with a few inexpensive tools. But, with the exception of lead bullets, making those components is hard. You can re-use brass cases several times. Primers can be reloaded, but not easily. Modern, smokeless powder is not easy to make. Lead bullets are easy to cast but bullets for hi-velocity rifles like 5.56 (especially if they are gas operated) really need to be jacketed in a harder metal. To make jacketed bullets, you need swaging equipment. That isn't cheap, but not out of the question. It also might be possible to "paper patch" lead bullets for hi velocity use..

If you wanted to be as self-sufficient as possible, the way to go would be black powder rifle.
 
obviously this unConstitutional bit of usurpation by barry needs to be resisted by the American People.
 
So when is the pro gun GOP in the House and Senate that everybody voted so hard for, going to try and stop this?
 
I don't care what kind of armor you wear,, a 50-90 Sharps would fuck up your day.

Hehehe. I have been lusting over a Sharps reproduction for years. Ever since a guy let me fire his at the range. Set trigger that you could literally touch off with a feather. I would probably go with 45-70 just because of availability. Now you got me thinking about it again . . .
 
didnt they ban the teflon coated stuff....I have many boxes of .45 called black talon something like that.....
 
So what exactly is the difference between .556 and .223?

Can all assault riffles shoot .223?

5.56 is mil spec. .223 is commercial spec. The cartridges are the same dimension but 5.56 is rated for higher pressure. Essentially you should not shoot 5.56 ammo in guns made for .223. Or so it is my understanding. Those with more expertise will correct me.

But you could shoot .223 out of a gun designed to shoot .556?


Acala is correct. You can shoot .223 out of a 5.56 barrel but not vice versa.

300 BLK

Uppers interchange,, Uses the same mag..
Better ballistics.

300 BLK is just an expensive wildcat version of 7.62x39. Unless you are running a can it is not worth it.

So when is the pro gun GOP in the House and Senate that everybody voted so hard for, going to try and stop this?

Bwahahahahahahaha. You should be a comedian! Actually though:

http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...es-bill-revoking-atfs-power-to-regulate-ammo/
 
So what exactly is the difference between .556 and .223?

Can all assault riffles shoot .223?

availability of ammunition. It would be basically making all surplus ammunition unavailable...that would be about 50 percent if not more of the ammo people use out there currently with their rifles.
 
didnt they ban the teflon coated stuff....I have many boxes of .45 called black talon something like that.....

probably. tungsten core black tip armor piercing rounds are what they are trying to ban first, but it won't stop at that ,it never does.
 
ATF Calls Stripping Ban Exemption for AR-15 Green Tip Ammunition a "Publishing Mistake"

Yesterday I exclusively reported that common AR-15 "green tip" ammunition has already been banned in the new 2014 Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms Regulation Guide, which was published in January. After the story received wide public attention, which you can read in full here, ATF released a response Friday night at 9:12 p.m. blaming a publishing error for stripping out the "armor piercing" and ban exemption for AR-15 "green tip" ammunition.

Here is the full statement.

On Feb. 13, 2015, ATF released for public comment a proposed framework, including legal and technical analysis, to guide its determination on what ammunition is "primarily intended for sporting purposes" for purposes of granting exemptions to the Gun Control Act’s prohibition on Armor Piecing Ammunition.This proposed framework is posted for public comment only; no final decisions have been made as to its adoption.

Media reports have noted that the 2014 ATF Regulation Guide published online does not contain a listing of the exemptions for Armor Piercing Ammunition, and concluding that the absence of this listing indicates these exemptions have been rescinded.

Please be advised that ATF has not rescinded any Armor Piercing Ammunition exemption, and the fact they are not listed in the 20 14 online edition of the regulations, was an error, which has no legal impact on the validity of the exemptions. The existing exemptions for armor piercing ammunition, which apply to 5.56 mm (.223) SS 109 and M855 projectiles (identified by a green coating on the projectile tip), and the U.S .30-06 M2AP projectile (identified by a black coating on the projectile tip), remain in effect.

The listing of Armor Piercing Ammunition exemptions can be found in the 2005 ATF Regulation Guide on page 166, which is posted here. The 2014 Regulation Guide will be corrected in PDF format to include the listing of Armor Piercing Ammunition exemptions and posted shortly. The e-book/iBook version of the Regulation Guide will be corrected in the near future. ATF apologizes for any confusion caused by this publishing error.


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Despite ATF saying there's "nothing to analyze here folks," this simple "publishing mistake" deserves scrutiny. Considering the Office of Management and Budget must approve new Regulation Guides, which come out approximately every 10 years, are difficult to change and take months to review, that's quite the "publishing mistake." As ATF references, the exemption for AR-15 "green tip" ammunition is in the 2005 ATF Regulation Guide. For this "publishing mistake" to occur, someone would have had to delete an entire section from the guide, which just happens to be the section about ammunition the Obama administration is currently trying to ban.

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http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiep...-green-tip-ammo-a-publishing-mistake-n1967168
 
those have been banned a long time. M855 is steel and lead core.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe M855 has a steel core.

The tip of the bullet is steel, not the core, if I'm not mistaken. The difference between 'AP' designation and simple ammunition.
 
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