40% of US Women Have ABORTIONS!

[dannno]

Abortions are the result of the moral decay that's been taking place in US society since the 60's. You need to address the root of the cause to fix.... morality.

Nothing wrong with having sex, people just need to be more careful and understand the consequences. I'd like to see less violence around the world, myself, which is of course a product of the corporate elite and intelligence agencies.

I agree with the OP that it DOES MATTER when the fetus is aborted. I don't like violent medical abortions, but if they occur within the first 6 or 8 weeks, I don't think that is any different than the morning after pill.. I don't think ANYTHING happens between the point where the sperm meets the egg and the fetus grows to 8 weeks that is inherently or fundamentally human.

The 8-12 week range is even a little late for me, but I'm not willing to hire govt. thugs to investigate women's uteri. Pregnancy should be a private affair for the mother without a bunch of government intrusion.

 

[pcosmar]

but I'm not willing to hire govt. thugs to investigate women's uteri. Pregnancy should be a private affair for the mother without a bunch of government intrusion.

Nether am I.

I am just opposed to making it the child murder business legal in the first place.
It should have never become socially acceptable.
Yes,, it happened in the years before it was legalized and sanctioned. It happened in the dark and was not spoken of, or acceptable in open society.

It need to be relegated back the the swamps,, where it belongs.

 

[Echoes]

Wars, baby-killing, the police-state. My goodness, we are a hellish country.

Of course voters dont embrace Ron Paul, he is one in a million. They want the bushes and obamas ruling them cuz they've got similar rotten souls.

 

[Acala]

This is why people who REALLY oppose abortion are REALLY in favor of contraception. People who oppose both are REALLY anti-sex.

Of course the ethical arguments against abortion are obvious and those who try to gloss it over by treating a human embryo as if it were a tumor are not only being intellectually dishonest, but are in convenient denial about the practical consequences of endorsing a practice that half their countrymen consider to be murder. That is a problem no law will solve.

On the other hand, those who would outlaw abortion need to explain exactly what they intend to do with millions of unwanted children. There aren't enough willing adoptive parents by at least a factor of ten. So, massive Federal orphanage-building program? Or what?

 

[oyarde]

This shit is depressing. I am reading this while watching pictures of small Japanese villages taken out by the waves a year ago. I am going to have to find something a bit better.

 

[youngbuck]

Wars, baby-killing, the police-state. My goodness, we are a hellish country.

Of course voters dont embrace Ron Paul, he is one in a million. They want the bushes and obamas ruling them cuz they've got similar rotten souls.

I'm afraid you're right, and perhaps all of our efforts to get RP in office are in vain because of this. An immoral society won't embrace a moral candidate. It has been said that God's blessing was upon our country from its beginning, and if that's the case, His blessing is surely being lifted as a result of our depravity.

 

[DerailingDaTrain]

I think those numbers are inflated as hell. No way have 40% of all US women had an abortion by that age. I call BS

 

[presence]

Why then?
Why is one stage of development more likely to get the baby murdered than another stage?

Organs develop at 10 weeks; this traditionally marks the embryo/fetus transition.
Before then it could be argued there is no consciousness as there is no brain to hold it; no senses to sense the world.

Some argue sperm is life
Some argue conception is life
Some argue viability is life

I take the embryo/fetus transition to be the divine spark

just another "fanatical" opinion,

http://www.baby2see.com/development/week10.html

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[presence]

I could really care less about a woman's right to abort another life.

So a 9th month, day before due date, partial birth head crusher is proper and legal... none of anyone's business in your world?

I don't believe that anyone can take the "I could really care less" attitude towards the subject. At some point, some legalized line in the sand, we're talking about murder. Last week there was an article in a scholarly journal arguing for legalization of abortion up to and including the first few days AFTER BIRTH. Could you care less about that?

 

[presence]

This shit is depressing. I am reading this while watching pictures of small Japanese villages taken out by the waves a year ago. I am going to have to find something a bit better.

http://disneyland.disney.go.com/

 

[presence]

Abortions are the result of the moral decay that's been taking place in US society since the 60's. You need to address the root of the cause to fix.... morality.

When the great Way is forgotten, the doctrines of humanity and morality arise.

Tao Te Ching
Chapter 18

 

[presence]

And now maybe some here will begin to understand why we cant win over the women voters...
Being Pro-life means you throw away 40% off the top.
There has got to be another 10% that don't have abortions but would vote to keep their right to choose...

I'm just saying, I bet we lose half of all women voters because of the pro-life stance.

This is another reason I find myself in favor of a "embryo/fetus transition" rule... if 88% of women have their abortion by week 12, then we wouldn't be alienating nearly half of all women by the "all or nothing" pro life stance. Abortion would be legalized for EMBRYO's, we'd be bringing a large chunk of female voters into the conservative movement... We could have our cake and eat it too.

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[presence]

I think those numbers are inflated as hell. No way have 40% of all US women had an abortion by that age. I call BS

Several of you in this thread have stated you think this is BUNK... I did my research, several sites I visited cited different works and each came to the same if not nearly the same conclusion.... So if you have some other data... by all means: Where's the link?

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[Mckarnin]

Well, statistics vary but is seems that 30-50 million abortions have occurred since 1973 so with about 150 million women in the US (even considering that some have had multiple abortions) that is a high percentage.

 

[Philosophy_of_Politics]

So a 9th month, day before due date, partial birth head crusher is proper and legal... none of anyone's business in your world?

I don't believe that anyone can take the "I could really care less" attitude towards the subject. At some point, some legalized line in the sand, we're talking about murder. Last week there was an article in a scholarly journal arguing for legalization of abortion up to and including the first few days AFTER BIRTH. Could you care less about that?

If you didn't know. I believe abortion should be banned, without question. I'm someone that had one of my children aborted, against my will. Just because a woman has a vagina, and they carry the child, they feel entitled to overrule a man's concerns/feelings on the subject.

Women can simply quit having sex, period.

 

[playboymommy]

Goodness gracious, what is happening to people? Women especially, if you do not want to have a baby do not have unprotected sex, it cannot get more simple than that.

Perhaps because it's not that simple. Unwanted pregnancies have resulted even when responsible people have protected sex. Condoms, birth control, tubal ligation, and vasectomies can fail. I agree with Dr. Paul that it is a moral issue that no law will solve.

 

[Mckarnin]

There is certainly some laziness when it comes to "protection" but even in a fully "protected" sex world the problem is wanting to hold your fertility in reserve "for a later date". People have sex with absolutely no intention of taking on the responsibilities of parenthood or even selecting sexual partners who they would seriously consider having children with. Problem is, other than removal of the ovaries or testes abstinence is the only 100% way to prevent pregnancy.

People who have sex with the mindset that they don't want a baby and can't deal with a baby become desperate, angry, frustrated, etc. when a very natural result of sex occurs, conception. Until we get back to where most people are not having sex in life situations where a baby isn't welcome there will be abortions, legal or illegal.

 

[pcosmar]

Unwanted Pregnancies??
Unplanned?

Lo, children are a heritage of the LORD: and the fruit of the womb is his reward.

Planned Parenthood?
Who ever told you it was your decision?

 

[DerailingDaTrain]

There is certainly some laziness when it comes to "protection" but even in a fully "protected" sex world the problem is wanting to hold your fertility in reserve "for a later date". People have sex with absolutely no intention of taking on the responsibilities of parenthood or even selecting sexual partners who they would seriously consider having children with. Problem is, other than removal of the ovaries or testes abstinence is the only 100% way to prevent pregnancy.

People who have sex with the mindset that they don't want a baby and can't deal with a baby become desperate, angry, frustrated, etc. when a very natural result of sex occurs, conception. Until we get back to where most people are not having sex in life situations where a baby isn't welcome there will be abortions, legal or illegal.

Abstinence doesn't work and in states where they teach it to kids in sex education they have the highest rate of teen pregnancies.

 

[PierzStyx]

And now maybe some here will begin to understand why we cant win over the women voters...
Being Pro-life means you throw away 40% off the top.
There has got to be another 10% that don't have abortions but would vote to keep their right to choose...

I'm just saying, I bet we lose half of all women voters because of the pro-life stance.

I'd rather lose doing what is right than win by lying and killing. I vote for Ron Paul, and not Mitt Romney, for just that reason.