2nd Planned Parenthood Video: Senior Executive Haggles Over Baby Parts Prices, Changes methods

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[h=1]New Video Shows Another Planned Parenthood Doctor Haggling Price of Baby Body Parts[/h]
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[video=youtube;MjCs_gvImyw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=74&v=MjCs_gvImyw[/video]

[h=2]In the second video released today by the Center for Medical Progress, yet another senior medical adviser to Planned Parenthood of America appears to negotiate the price of selling baby body parts to actors playing entrepreneurs from a start-up biotech firm.[/h]
Dr. Mary Gatter, President of Planned Parenthood’s Medical Director’s Council, is asked, “What would you expect for intact tissue?”

Gatter starts to haggle immediately, “Why don’t you start by telling me what you’re used to paying?”

When pushed for a number, Gatter says, “Well, you know in negotiations the person who throws out the figure first is at a loss, right? So…”

When pushed again for how much her Planned Parenthood affiliate is willing to sell baby body parts for, she responds, “Okay, $75.”

When the buyer tells her that number seems low Gatter responds, “I was going to say $50.”

Then the buy offers her $100 to which Gatter quickly responds, “Okay.”

After the first video was released last week in which Dr. Deborah Nucatola also appears to negotiate the price of fetal body parts, Planned Parenthood insisted that the price Nucatola mentioned was only related to the costs incurred by Planned Parenthood with no profit involved. In the Nucatola video, however, she is seen and heard explaining that the Planned Parenthood affiliates in the body parts business wanted to do more than “break even.”

In this second video, shot in February at a restaurant in Pasadena, Gatter seems willing to accept a higher and higher price.

What’s more, in the beginning of the video, she talks about an earlier situation where a company called Novogenix used to come to her abortion clinic to buy specimens: “Heather, a Novogenix person would come to the site and our staff would sign the patients up and get consent. And then Heather would look at the tissue and take what she required. So logistically it was very easy for us. We didn’t have to do anything.” (emphasis added)

This statement would seem to contradict the need of a higher and higher price for doing nothing except letting a technician from another company come into the facility and take specimens. While she seems willing to accept higher prices, Gatter does claim Planned Parenthood is “not in it for the money” and they do not want to appear to be selling body parts.

At the end of the video, like Nucatola, Gatter talks about changing the abortion technique to get intact specimens, changing from a rather violent suction method that would destroy tissue to what she calls an IPAS, which is a reference to a nonprofit company that makes and distributes “manual vacuum aspirators” which would be a less harmful way to get at the internal organs. She said there would be protocol issues with the patient but that she saw no problem with it. She calls it a “less crunchy” way to get intact organs.

At the end of the tape provided by CMP, Gatter jokes about wanting “a Lamborghini” for body parts.

This new video will no doubt stoke the fires that are now burning in Congress and in states around the country in response to the first undercover Planned Parenthood video. Already two committees in the House and Senate have called for investigations of the abortion giant, along with five state governments.

The sale or purchase of human fetal tissue is a felony punishable by up to 10 years in prison or a fine of up to $500,000 (42 U.S.C. 289g-2).

CMP’s Project Lead David Daleiden said, “Planned Parenthood’s top leadership had admitted they harvest aborted baby parts and receive payments for this. Planned Parenthood’s only denial is that they make money off of baby parts, but that is a desperate lie that becomes more and more untenable as CMP reveals their business operations and statements that prove otherwise.”
http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...ood-doctor-haggling-price-of-baby-body-parts/
 
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I really find it hard to believe if these people were selling human tissue for money, they would be selling it at $75 per. You get about $70 per plasma donation here in Omaha. And that is just plasma. I hate to say it, but I don't think there is some nefarious activity going on at PP to make money off human tissue. They get consent from the mothers, everything most likely is documented including cost.

There is nothing to see here, abortions are happening and the patients are signing off on the tissues of the fetus used for research. This is not butcher meat that you can just hand off, there are costs involved in collecting, packaging and maybe shipping.

The inability of govt prosecutors to charge these people for selling human tissue would tell you that even though it looks bad, there is no organ selling going on.
 
Fuck, even the IRS thinks I'm worth more than $100, and they don't give a shit about anyone.
 
I really find it hard to believe if these people were selling human tissue for money, they would be selling it at $75 per. You get about $70 per plasma donation here in Omaha. And that is just plasma. I hate to say it, but I don't think there is some nefarious activity going on at PP to make money off human tissue. They get consent from the mothers, everything most likely is documented including cost.

There is nothing to see here, abortions are happening and the patients are signing off on the tissues of the fetus used for research. This is not butcher meat that you can just hand off, there are costs involved in collecting, packaging and maybe shipping.

The inability of govt prosecutors to charge these people for selling human tissue would tell you that even though it looks bad, there is no organ selling going on.

Then why in the video was she haggling for the best price she could get?
 
The inability of govt prosecutors to charge these people for selling human tissue would tell you that even though it looks bad, there is no organ selling going on.

I have thought so too, as in—this would be really hard to prosecute and prove wrong-doing. But after watching the first video again there is a part where Dr. Nucatola states that there are ways doctors can basically circumvent the law by saying that they 'accidentally' preserved a particular piece of the fetus and just happened to sell it. . . . I believe it was something along the lines of doctors claiming 'it wasn't my intent.' I don't really care to watch that video any more than I have to, but if I recall correctly that's what was said. You all can watch it again and tell me.

Meh. "Oops I accidentally completely preserved the tissue you requested while performing an abortion." You don't have to be a medical expert to know what such 'accidents' take a bit of effort and concentration to make them happen.

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If they're not acting illegally, they're definitely taking steps to cover their actions, and you usually don't have to cover up something you did unless you know it is wrong.

It's a valid point though. Can it be proven? Aside from someone in the medical staff at an abortion clinic coming out and testifying under oath that PP doctors are intentionally targeting specific tissues or organs to meet a demand, I don't know how any outsider could prove it.
 
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There is nothing to see here, abortions are happening and the patients are signing off on the tissues of the fetus used for research. This is not butcher meat that you can just hand off, there are costs involved in collecting, packaging and maybe shipping.

I was unaware that shipping and handling costs (with no profit motive) were competitively haggled over. :rolleyes:
 
I was unaware that shipping and handling costs (with no profit motive) were competitively haggled over. :rolleyes:
Yeah, well, she said she'd check and see how much the other 'clinics' were charging. Surely what she meant was she would check with shipping companies to see how much they charge.

There is nothing to see here

Exactly. Move along y'all, nothing to see here.:rolleyes:
 
As a taxpayer we need to demand accountability. There is no reason why our government should be funding these barbaric practices--especially when they try to make themselves out to be the humanitarians of the world.

The founder of Planned Parenthood was a Nazi sympathizer and their reputation hasn't changed at all.

Let us not forget Bill Gates family background as well:

GATES: When I was growing up, my parents were almost involved in various volunteer things. My dad was head of Planned Parenthood. And it was very controversial to be involved with that. And so it's fascinating. At the dinner table my parents are very good at sharing the things that they were doing. And almost treating us like adults, talking about that.

My mom was on the United Way group that decides how to allocate the money and looks at all the different charities and makes the very hard decisions about where that pool of funds is going to go. So I always knew there was something about really educating people and giving them choices in terms of family size.

Source
 
I really find it hard to believe if these people were selling human tissue for money, they would be selling it at $75 per. You get about $70 per plasma donation here in Omaha. And that is just plasma. I hate to say it, but I don't think there is some nefarious activity going on at PP to make money off human tissue. They get consent from the mothers, everything most likely is documented including cost.

There is nothing to see here, abortions are happening and the patients are signing off on the tissues of the fetus used for research. This is not butcher meat that you can just hand off, there are costs involved in collecting, packaging and maybe shipping.

The inability of govt prosecutors to charge these people for selling human tissue would tell you that even though it looks bad, there is no organ selling going on.
inability of government prosecutors......they choose not to prosecute criminals all the time.
 
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Fuck, even the IRS thinks I'm worth more than $100, and they don't give a shit about anyone.

This is the part I find ridiculous. For what, 6 grand total ? Like 30 shekels ? Why waste your time even discussing this shit instead of keeping your hands clean.
 
yea so? anyone going to do anything about it? nope, carry on.

I'm expecting Walter Block to write an inept article on this soon, in which he presents an actually logically sound argument why this is consistent with libertarian thought.
 
yea so? anyone going to do anything about it? nope, carry on.

Carry on . . . talking about other stuff they won't change. I mean, you could pretty much spin a wheel and land on any Ron Paul Forum topic it qualifies as something government isn't going to do anything about.

If we were only here to discuss things government plans on changing on our account, we'd have absolutely nothing to talk about. Most of the time people here just bitch about stuff, myself included. The closest I've ever actually come to changing anything was getting politically raped as a delegate at a Georgia GOP convention. That was about the extent of my activism. So I'm on here, bitching, about something that's important to me, but not to Washington. Just like everyone else here.
 
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Carry on . . . talking about other stuff they won't change. I mean, you could pretty much spin a wheel and land on any Ron Paul Forum topic it qualifies as something government isn't going to do anything about.

If we were only here to discuss things government plans on changing on our account, we'd have absolutely nothing to talk about. Most of the time people here just bitch about stuff, myself included. The closest I've ever actually come to changing anything was getting politically raped as a delegate at a Georgia GOP convention. That was about the extent of my activism. So I'm on here, bitching, about something that's important to me, but not to Washington. Just like everyone else here.

Things were looking pretty good up until 4 years ago, and then something happened where everyone (except all of us who disagree) suddenly decided that playing the political game by the rules the fixers put in place is somehow going to work for us. It went from a movement which wholesale rejected that notion, to a movement which embraced it.

I'm not going to state unequivocally that embracing the evil we once rejected is not going to bear fruit. We'll have to see. Until then, I'm sitting out, because I was as much as told to.

There's still the option nobody will talk about, and frankly, I see that as the only meaningful option for changing things within our lifetimes. And I'm not looking forward to that time, at all.

Until then, I'm doing something. I'm keeping my children as far away from schools as I can keep them. I'm teaching my children that when a cop asks them where their parents are, they respond "I don't answer questions", no matter how much they threaten to take them away. I'm banding together with other parents who keep their children out of schools, and I'm speaking out to the parents who send their children to schools. Anyone who is younger than me is guaranteed to be told the truth of this situation.

This generation is lost, unless this plan of using the same exact thing that got us here somehow works out, in spite of its absurdity.
Everyone should be concentrating on the next generation.
 
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