nobody's_hero
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"Love him or hate him, he brought people into the party. Haley won't do that."\
That's true, but he pushed just as many out.
You ain't seen what Nikki will do to the party.
"Love him or hate him, he brought people into the party. Haley won't do that."\
That's true, but he pushed just as many out.
I don't think he brought many in. The numbers don't really show it. 2016 Hillary received the same votes as Obama did in 2012. Trump got 2 million more than Romney did in 2012. Plus look at the what happened to the repubs in Congress in 2020I think you underestimate how many people wouldn't have anything to do with the GOP, if not for Trump. I don't think it is as pronounced as it was with Ron Paul, but I went to a few rallies and probably a good 1/3 of the people had never been involved in politics before.
Love him or hate him, he brought people into the party. Haley won't do that. Her potential pool of support isn't going to get any bigger. Unless of course the MSM keeps selling her to democrats as a better alternative to Trump, just to get in and screw up open primary states. However those people would have no intention whatsoever of voting for her in the general.
I think you underestimate how many people wouldn't have anything to do with the GOP, if not for Trump. I don't think it is as pronounced as it was with Ron Paul, but I went to a few rallies and probably a good 1/3 of the people had never been involved in politics before.
Love him or hate him, he brought people into the party. Haley won't do that. Her potential pool of support isn't going to get any bigger. Unless of course the MSM keeps selling her to democrats as a better alternative to Trump, just to get in and screw up open primary states. However those people would have no intention whatsoever of voting for her in the general.
You're conflating Trump voters with GOP voters. Most people supporting Trump don't give a damn about the Republican Party. In no scenario are they all going to hold their nose and vote for Haley, DeSantis, or any other GOP nominee that isn't Trump.GOP voters always support the nominee. If Trump gets removed from the race, it won't be any different than the past.
You're conflating Trump voters with GOP voters. Most people supporting Trump don't give a damn about the Republican Party. In no scenario are they all going to hold their nose and vote for Haley, DeSantis, or any other GOP nominee that isn't Trump.
I don't think he brought many in. The numbers don't really show it. 2016 Hillary received the same votes as Obama did in 2012. Trump got 2 million more than Romney did in 2012. Plus look at the what happened to the repubs in Congress in 2020
I'm not wrong. Turnout wasn't significantly better for Trump than past GOP candidates among registered republican voters.
"Love him or hate him, he brought people into the party. Haley won't do that."\
That's true, but he pushed just as many out.
Never Niki fine by me
DeSantis or Vivek can grow the party
Trump gets the nomination, it's pretty much a done deal.
Haley appears to be in a distant 2nd place but will drop out after NH because she wont risk losing her own state.
No, they can't.
LOL.You’re “absolute” schtick is old & of course wrong
No they wouldn't, also the "sore loser" laws would likely make this non-viable as well.The Dems may draft her if Brandon drops out.
No they wouldn't, also the "sore loser" laws would likely make this non-viable as well.
No they wouldn't, also the "sore loser" laws would likely make this non-viable as well.
They very well might.
And they would get the laws changed, or claim they didn't count if she drops out of the R primaries early, or just ignore them.
Everyone will "suspend their campaigns" after Tuesday, except for Haley who will do so after NH. Their campaigns legally will be kept open for months, or maybe even years, but in effect, everything will be over after Iowa, and for Haley, NH.Nobody left is dropping out. They all know Trump could be disqualified at any time with all his legal issues.