2016 Iowa Caucus Thread

What I'm most concerned about right now, is Jeb Bush creeping up on Rand. Rand 4%, Jeb 3%. Do you think microsoft is tampering with the results? After all, that's who Hillary wants to run against, Jeb. Jeb has already said all of Bill's rapes are off the table.

No. Just no.
 
Will 5th kill any chance of momentum in New Hampshire?
Even 4th would have probably killed momentum. What's the expectations for NH now? Kasich, Bush, and Christie should be doing a bit better there. Rand should probably drop out if he doesn't get top 3 in any of the first 5 states.
 
Unfortunately, If we can't even top Carson with these dumb ass people we're done folks. I'll be PAUL OR NOTHING to the end as I was in 08 and 12 with $$$ and activism. That said, Viva Brazil! ...and will watch the SHTF from the beach (Lord Willing) in the years to come.
 
So, from what I understood is that Paul had the following:
1,000 Precinct Chairs (Will try to bring people)
10,000 Devoted

I would assume we have more than that, but how much more? Why did Rand do so poorly in the smaller districts?


Because people didn't want to put up with what their neighbors thought about them for picking Rand. I swear Iowa needs to be done away with, that place is fucking worthless.
 
I should have known this would be the result. The campaign didn't have the money to run a good campaign because of the morons that were fooled by Trump and Cruz. And the fact that apparently a bunch of the Ron Paul voters never really understood what liberty was about. Just a bunch of rebel idiots.

Since the beginning I was saying that one of the Super PACs needed to focus on the older voters. I never felt comfortable with this strategy of getting only the young people.
 
What I'm most concerned about right now, is Jeb Bush creeping up on Rand. Rand 4%, Jeb 3%. Do you think microsoft is tampering with the results? After all, that's who Hillary wants to run against, Jeb. Jeb has already said all of Bill's rapes are off the table.

I doubt it. Ballots are paper, hand counted and verified by observers when they get entered in the system.
 
Trump a proud nationalist, Sanders a proud socialist. Country is making a strong lurch towards Nazism. I'm sure we'll get some new name for it, Ron called it crony capitalism. It's fascism on freaking steroids.

Unsustainable debt, war machine stretched too thin, unorganized populace with no direction. Country is primed for invasion and it has the moral mud pit to climb out of.

Scary times. 2007-2008 looked like a picnic compared to whats coming I'm afraid.

Only positive in the last 10 years, looks like the drug war is winding down. Not fast enough obviously.

Hitting the snooze button again this election cycle. Way to go United States of America!

I've been hitting the snooze a lot. Did put some $ in.
 
I'm probably older than you. Many here have done something similar to what you're doing in 08 or 12. I kicked in $ today, first of the cycle and the biggest single contribution I ever gave. But, my level of caring just isn't where it was in 08 and 12.

Things in this country are shittier than ever before, and each day is the worst day yet. So, within this context, do we see wins? No, we really don't. We didn't in 08 or in 12 and it's not looking so good right now for 16. My ability to tolerate politicians isn't going up, it's going down.
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I'm watching Fox News and Karl Rove is there on TV. The world would be a better place if Rove was dead. But he isn't. Many people are moving toward "fk it" not away from that position. And some of us aren't moving toward the "more freedom" position, and are moving toward, "dig a hole and wait for the end, it's just going to be awful." So, I kicked in good money today by my standards. But most of these people (Rove) make me sick. And if politics is like a horse race or something, people wouldn't be watching horse races if every single horse but one made you sick, and everyone talking about the horses make you sick. The people in charge are awful. Ideally, they're getting their heads chopped off, but that's not happening, not on the horizon.

Given all this, you might be seeing some gallows humor if things don't go right. On the bright side, there are more candidates below Rand than above him, and NH seems to be a good place for Rand, I suppose. It's not like we live in the world that these wretched TV creatures pretend we live in. It's rigged. The human trash that control things don't want Rand. Within that context, Rand is doing a fine job.


Yep - same thoughts here. I am basically in the mode of building up my ranch to move to within the next 5 years. The USA is going to shit. I give it another 8 years before extreme riots and poverty. We are on a fiscal policy collapse. China and Russia will end our petro dollar.
 
Even 4th would have probably killed momentum. What's the expectations for NH now? Kasich, Bush, and Christie should be doing a bit better there. Rand should probably drop out if he doesn't get top 3 in any of the first 5 states.

Forget New Hampshire. If Rand can't get top 4 in Iowa, he'll be last in NH out of the candidates that are left. This country is fucking done son!
 
4th could keep Rand in the conversation/debates especially if Trump loses Iowa. But I suspect Carson will drop out and endorse Rubio, and Rubio will go on to win the next primary.
 
Can someone please tell me how the fuck Cruz, Trump and Rubio are all at 20+% and Rand hasn't moved. God the founders would be so pissed off at what this country has become.
 
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