2012 FLASHBACK: Donald Trump Said GOP Was Too ‘Mean-Spirited’ Towards Illegal Immigrants

The difference is that people are already calling Cruz out for flip flopping on immigration. But everyone still says that Trump is a hardcore conservative on immigration and has always been that way. I just pointed out with this article that that's not the case.

He was saying a bunch of things contemporaneously. He also said in 2013, that there would be '11 million people will be voting Democratic' if amnesty was granted. Still, notice the context, he attacked 'self-deportation', not deportation, per se, Cruz attacked both self-deportation and deportation.
 
well you sure seem to be putting in overtime on a candidate you dont believe in too much... not too long ago we had quite the influx of ted cruz bots paid trolls on here who only recently seemed to vanish when the overwhelming evidence of Ted lying over and over again was too much for them to withstand..

if you think hes better than trump so be it.. but I have a hard time believing any Paul supporter would cheerily campaign for Cruz.

Ted - BusTED

I'm campaigning against Trump more than anything.
 
Look as I said people change, Trump has come full circle. I myself changed, I used to be LEO and we all know how bad RPF hates LEO. I don't agree with everything Trump stands for, but as an outsider, I love the havoc he is causing the GOPe. Cruz is no different, he is GOPe to the core.

A lot of the establishment people prefer Trump over Cruz. Cruz isn't ideal on the issues by any stretch, but he's certainly not GOP establishment.
 
A lot of the establishment people prefer Trump over Cruz. Cruz isn't ideal on the issues by any stretch, but he's certainly not GOP establishment.

They don't, that was a bluff. Cruz's whole strategy was to 'hug' Carson and Trump supporters, and if he ended up somehow in the final against one of them, he calculated that the establishment would have to support him against them. They basically said, go to hell.
 
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