2012 FLASHBACK: Donald Trump Said GOP Was Too ‘Mean-Spirited’ Towards Illegal Immigrants

Cruz only wants to make the middle east glow. Come on Brett your bias is showing here. Cruz not only stole all of his talking points from Rand and Ron but he completely infiltrated the liberty movement and people ate his bullshit up. He even fooled Ron and Rand which is not easy to do.

I'm not claiming that Cruz is a liberty candidate. He obviously isn't. I'm just supporting him in order to stop Trump, because I think Trump would be a disaster of epic proportions.
 
I said I'm not sure. In normal circumstances I wouldn't even consider it, but right now we're one liberal Supreme Court justice away from the 2nd Amendment being repealed. So it's a dilemma.


First off if they ever tried to repeal the 2nd, there would be civil war in the US. Police wouldn't try to enforce that law due to how many guns there are. Secondly those that voted to repeal would find themselves 6 feet under before you could say done deal.
 
I said I'm not sure. In normal circumstances I wouldn't even consider it, but right now we're one liberal Supreme Court justice away from the 2nd Amendment being repealed. So it's a dilemma.

Yes or No, if Cruz had never been in the race. Stop evading.
 
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Well, I am supporting Cruz over Trump. I don't view Cruz as being an ideal candidate, but I just think Trump is a disaster and has to be stopped. But I'm certainly not getting paid by anyone to point out how terrible Trump is.

But are you getting paid to show how great Cruz is?
 
Of course not. And of course I never said he was great, just better than Trump. You accuse Cruz of lying but then lie yourself.

Answer the question about Rubio, would you support him or not? Stop lying to yourself and others and be honest.
 
By falsely claiming that I think Cruz is great and a saint. I've said the exact opposite in this thread and other threads, that he's a flawed candidate but better than Trump.

Anyone who willingly takes that much money from the investment and securities sector is not better than Trump. That money doesn't come free.
 
Anyone who willingly takes that much money from the investment and securities sector is not better than Trump. That money doesn't come free.

Are you going to address the subject of this thread and what Trump said back in 2012?
 
How much have you changed in the last 4 years? Are you saying Trump also cannot change?

I just don't see it as being authentic. He just conveniently changed his positions and became more conservative just in time to run for the Republican nomination, when he had to take more conservative positions in order to win. I just don't buy it.
 
Are you going to address what Cruz said back in 2013 on being against Romney's plan too?

The difference is that people are already calling Cruz out for flip flopping on immigration. But everyone still says that Trump is a hardcore conservative on immigration and has always been that way. I just pointed out with this article that that's not the case.
 
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I just don't see it as being authentic. He just conveniently changed his positions and became more conservative just in time to run for the Republican nomination, when he had to take more conservative positions in order to win. I just don't buy it.


Look as I said people change, Trump has come full circle. I myself changed, I used to be LEO and we all know how bad RPF hates LEO. I don't agree with everything Trump stands for, but as an outsider, I love the havoc he is causing the GOPe. Cruz is no different, he is GOPe to the core.
 
By falsely claiming that I think Cruz is great and a saint. I've said the exact opposite in this thread and other threads, that he's a flawed candidate but better than Trump.

well you sure seem to be putting in overtime on a candidate you dont believe in too much... not too long ago we had quite the influx of ted cruz bots paid trolls on here who only recently seemed to vanish when the overwhelming evidence of Ted lying over and over again was too much for them to withstand..

if you think hes better than trump so be it.. but I have a hard time believing any Paul supporter would cheerily campaign for Cruz.

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Look as I said people change, Trump has come full circle. I myself changed, I used to be LEO and we all know how bad RPF hates LEO. I don't agree with everything Trump stands for, but as an outsider, I love the havoc he is causing the GOPe. Cruz is no different, he is GOPe to the core.

yep and yep
 
well you sure seem to be putting in overtime on a candidate you dont believe in too much... not too long ago we had quite the influx of ted cruz bots paid trolls on here who only recently seemed to vanish when the overwhelming evidence of Ted lying over and over again was too much for them to withstand..

if you think hes better than trump so be it.. but I have a hard time believing any Paul supporter would cheerily campaign for Cruz.

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At least Trump does not go around proclaiming that he is a libertarian minded constitutionalist like Ted does. I think that's the major problem with Ted.
 
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