2/10/12 [VIDEO] Doug Wead on Maddow Show MSNBC. Incredible interview

[rp713]

i didnt see it as a hit piece, maddow stated facts and then asked wead to go more in depth. im no madcow supporter, but cant be saying everything is a hit piece because they question things legitimately.

 

[roho76]

Is this going to help us get more of our people into the delegate process or help the GOP setup something to stop us?

We need those over 40 to get into the delegate process.

 

[Narmical]

Maybe because they felt they had to. If this forum is any example, the plethora of threads started in the last week or so proclaiming that the sky was falling, sure looked like some people were giving up. It's important that people do NOT give up and go out to vote and become delegates.

This video has lifted my spits. I un-give-up

 

[Cabal]

Doug always does well in interviews, however I wish he would have brought up the point about extremely low voter turn out and representation in the votes thus far, as to illustrate that the single-digit percentages who have been voting are not, in fact, representative of the preference of the people in those states.

 

[rprprs]

The campaign was kind of forced to bring it to light... for disheartened supporters and to make people realize we are in this to win this and we are doing well. We keep getting cheated out of popular vote wins, so the campaign needs to showe are viable and winning in what really matters.

Maybe because they felt they had to. If this forum is any example, the plethora of threads started in the last week or so proclaiming that the sky was falling, sure looked like some people were giving up. It's important that people do NOT give up and go out to vote and become delegates.

Yes, I think that's at the heart of it.

Unfortunately, and at the risk of sounding negative, I think the general gist of the following post also has some merit...

...<snip>...Does anyone think that the Republican party is going to allow Ron, or anyone, to amass delegates to the national convention without winning any primaries? They will rewrite the rules or change the delegates or whatever they have to so they can be sure it's anyone but Ron. And they can do it because they are a private organization and can change any rules they want to. I say force their hand and make them do it. But be aware that they will do it. And Doug Wead going on national TV and telling everyone exactly what the campaign is doing will only make the party more determined to put every delegate under the hot light and give them the third degree.

I think it's fair to say that there is a general concensus in these forums that the establishment will stop at NOTHING to prevent Ron from getting the nomination. Over the years there have been countless posts in support of that assertion.
While it is unquestioned that no other candidate can individually muster the committed support afforded Ron, there is, nonetheless, a relentless collective commitment among the establishment to an "anybody BUT Paul" agenda. I just hope that we are not adding fuel to that fire by taking a yellow marker and highlighting our "win-by-delegates" strategy. I fully understand that it's not exactly a slealth tactic and has long been known, but I can't help but wonder if bringing it to the fore and adopting an "in-your-face" stance is the best approach.
I guess time will tell. I hope the benefits outway any negatives. And (even as a non-believer) I pray we will prevail.

 

[georgiaboy]

I remember back in 2008, my first time entering the delegate and convention process.

Several things about the process stunned me.

1. Overall, the precinct, county, district, and state conventions were under attended, to the point where any impassioned group could easily outnumber the regulars and vote in the delegates of their choosing. This was especially true at the lowest, or precinct level. Precincts with slots for 10 delegates/10 alternates to go to county would only have one or two slots filled. Related to this, a person with real motivation could easily move into local party leadership and higher with relative ease.

2. The popular vote does drive the delegate binding process at the national convention, but only for a round or two. After that, it's up to the delegates. In other words, assuming the nation is united behind a candidate during the caucuses/primaries, that candidate will get the nomination. However, if the electorate is divided, the delegates, who by the process should represent the active voice of the party, get the control. Bottom line, delegate selection and, by exension, local activism, is much more important and game-changing than the general electorate could ever begin to imagine.

3. Even though 2. is laid into the rules, the national delegation has the power to suspend rules right on the national convention floor, thus leaving the process wide open. This was perhaps the biggest eye-opener for me. With enough organization and numbers, the national convention delegates can basically nominate anyone they want to to be the GOP candidate.

4. Perhaps most interesting, because of 1. above, this process is an exciting close contact sport, involving people interacting with people at the local level, neighbor with neighbor, and that dynamic produces varying results, given the fact that when all is said and done, everyone will see each other again and again over the long term. In the end, any 'secrets' become known, lines get drawn, people have memories, and one needs to be ready for politicking even at these lowest levels of the process.

 

[neverseen]

Wead is the MAN

 

[ItsTime]

Non-binding is what they are correct? How often do delegates break from straw poll preference?

How often does someone like Ron Paul come along?

 

[brushfire]

My Wead smile --->

...love that guy!

 

[RonPaul101.com]

Wead is awesome, so comes across so confident and informed without seeming arrogant in the least. Could he run in 2016?

I almost fel like we don;t want other candidates' supporters knowing this simple, yet mostly unknown, delegate process. i assume the campaign has figured it's better to advertise this to everyone and stay relevant than hide it and fade away...?

 

[bluesc]

Wead is so articulate

Interesting fact: When he ran for congress in Arizona, Barry Goldwater endorsed his Democrat opponent which pretty much destroyed him since he was running on a "I stand with Goldwater" platform.

 

[BKom]

The campaign hasn't just revealed it. This was talked about by the campaign just after Iowa. Some media simply caught on when the campaign decided to release a press release.

Plus, this isn't a big secret. The establishment GOP know exactly what the campaign would do and has been doing.



No, he doesn't. If we have the majority of state delegates, they can unbind themselves and vote for anyone they want first round at the national convention.

It's amazing you think you are more knowledgeable than one of the best political strategists of the GOP.

Well, I'll be there to see it all happen, right in the front row. I'll bring the popcorn. If the strategists are as good as you think they are, it should be very interesting.

 

[BKom]

Wead is so articulate

Interesting fact: When he ran for congress in Arizona, Barry Goldwater endorsed his Democrat opponent which pretty much destroyed him since he was running on a "I stand with Goldwater" platform.

Goldwater was an interesting firebrand in 1964 and an increasing disgrace every year thereafter. The one thing that I admired about him, though, was that he was aware of and disgusted by the religious right taking over his party. And mine. He said it would be the downfall of the party. I think he missed the mark by a little. It may be the downfall of the nation.

 

[rpwi]

Good interview...but wow...we just showed our cards. There are a lot more caucuses to go the existing caucuses still have multiple stages they have to go through yet.

Hopefully the MSM doesn't pick up on this (aside from Maddow).

 

[Cabal]

MSM will most likely spin this as 'scandalous election hijacking' or some such nonsense. So be prepared for that.

 

[S.Shorland]

From my news aggregator,it seems the MSM are saying RP has his math wrong,then in the same breath saying that Jeb Bush or Christie might jump into a brokered convention.

 

[slamhead]

I am, however, just a bit perplexed as to why the campaign seems so willing to broadcast and highlight this strategy, partcularly so early in the process.

The only reason I see is to keep the base positive and energized and not be discouraged. I too don't like playing my cards as it just gives the GOP establishment more time to cheat and screw us.

 

[affa]

From my news aggregator,it seems the MSM are saying RP has his math wrong,then in the same breath saying that Jeb Bush or Christie might jump into a brokered convention.

They're miles off script at this point and are flubbering around. This was supposed to already be over.

We're going to hear the 'new man in' thing tossed around a lot -- Mitch Daniels, Chris Christie, Jeb Bush, Paul Ryan, Marco Rubio.

 

[JuicyG]

Doug knows how to handle babes.

Notice how she softened after that "you`ve restored my faith in journalism comment". Few people could go negative after receiving such compliment.

 

[opinionatedfool]

We're certainly not winning, but we are doing better than it looks like we're doing. Although, once again, Wead completely misunderstands the Nevada caucus system. Someone needs to make sure the campaign knows that our delegates to the national convention will be bound by percentage of the preference poll. Ron will have 3-4 delegates, but there is no way on earth that we won the NV caucuses. Romney will have half the delegates no matter what.

I am not sure how many ballots the delegates are bound for, but even if they leave Romney, they are not coming to Ron. The R party is run by some pretty evil bastards. Look how far they went last time so they could make McCain unanimous at the convention. They shut off the lights, turned off the electricity and ran out of the room. They never counted our ballots for national delegates until years after the state convention was over. And even though we got four national delegates, the party hounded them until they all voted for McCain.

Does anyone think that the Republican party is going to allow Ron, or anyone, to amass delegates to the national convention without winning any primaries? They will rewrite the rules or change the delegates or whatever they have to so they can be sure it's anyone but Ron. And they can do it because they are a private organization and can change any rules they want to. I say force their hand and make them do it. But be aware that they will do it. And Doug Wead going on national TV and telling everyone exactly what the campaign is doing will only make the party more determined to put every delegate under the hot light and give them the third degree.

Umm... IA, CO, MN and ME are UNBOUND. At minimum we have 5 from NV and 3 from NH, BUT there is a pretty good chance we won MOST of the unbound delegates. We could have over one hundred by the end of the night (of course nothing is official until they are actually selected). With that being said, Romney has 80/90. That's what I mean by we may be winning.

Also, in NV I believe they can choose to unbind the delegates at the state convention. If most of them are RP supporters doing the voting, they will be unbound.

To this point, it sounds like winning to me.