2/10/12 [VIDEO] Doug Wead on Maddow Show MSNBC. Incredible interview

[LibertyEagle]

not sure what the purpose of explaining this so early in the process...why tell the everyone about this?? help me understand given the enemy your strategy...it is not like it is a trap or deception there is no other way to win...

Maybe because they felt they had to. If this forum is any example, the plethora of threads started in the last week or so proclaiming that the sky was falling, sure looked like some people were giving up. It's important that people do NOT give up and go out to vote and become delegates.

 

[BKom]

Wow. I think we are winning! As long as the gop doesn't cheat us out of it.

We're certainly not winning, but we are doing better than it looks like we're doing. Although, once again, Wead completely misunderstands the Nevada caucus system. Someone needs to make sure the campaign knows that our delegates to the national convention will be bound by percentage of the preference poll. Ron will have 3-4 delegates, but there is no way on earth that we won the NV caucuses. Romney will have half the delegates no matter what.

I am not sure how many ballots the delegates are bound for, but even if they leave Romney, they are not coming to Ron. The R party is run by some pretty evil bastards. Look how far they went last time so they could make McCain unanimous at the convention. They shut off the lights, turned off the electricity and ran out of the room. They never counted our ballots for national delegates until years after the state convention was over. And even though we got four national delegates, the party hounded them until they all voted for McCain.

Does anyone think that the Republican party is going to allow Ron, or anyone, to amass delegates to the national convention without winning any primaries? They will rewrite the rules or change the delegates or whatever they have to so they can be sure it's anyone but Ron. And they can do it because they are a private organization and can change any rules they want to. I say force their hand and make them do it. But be aware that they will do it. And Doug Wead going on national TV and telling everyone exactly what the campaign is doing will only make the party more determined to put every delegate under the hot light and give them the third degree.

 

[jamezelle]

We're certainly not winning, but we are doing better than it looks like we're doing. Although, once again, Wead completely misunderstands the Nevada caucus system. Someone needs to make sure the campaign knows that our delegates to the national convention will be bound by percentage of the preference poll. Ron will have 3-4 delegates, but there is no way on earth that we won the NV caucuses. Romney will have half the delegates no matter what.

I am not sure how many ballots the delegates are bound for, but even if they leave Romney, they are not coming to Ron. The R party is run by some pretty evil bastards. Look how far they went last time so they could make McCain unanimous at the convention. They shut off the lights, turned off the electricity and ran out of the room. They never counted our ballots for national delegates until years after the state convention was over. And even though we got four national delegates, the party hounded them until they all voted for McCain.

Does anyone think that the Republican party is going to allow Ron, or anyone, to amass delegates to the national convention without winning any primaries? They will rewrite the rules or change the delegates or whatever they have to so they can be sure it's anyone but Ron. And they can do it because they are a private organization and can change any rules they want to. I say force their hand and make them do it. But be aware that they will do it. And Doug Wead going on national TV and telling everyone exactly what the campaign is doing will only make the party more determined to put every delegate under the hot light and give them the third degree.

we have 5 delegates in Nevada proportionally based on 18.7(% Ron won)/3.57. 3.57%=1 delegate. 28 delegates/100% of votes.

 

[lucent]

The campaign hasn't just revealed it. This was talked about by the campaign just after Iowa. Some media simply caught on when the campaign decided to release a press release.

Plus, this isn't a big secret. The establishment GOP know exactly what the campaign would do and has been doing.

We're certainly not winning, but we are doing better than it looks like we're doing. Although, once again, Wead completely misunderstands the Nevada caucus system. Someone needs to make sure the campaign knows that our delegates to the national convention will be bound by percentage of the preference poll. Ron will have 3-4 delegates, but there is no way on earth that we won the NV caucuses. Romney will have half the delegates no matter what.

No, he doesn't. If we have the majority of state delegates, they can unbind themselves and vote for anyone they want first round at the national convention.

It's amazing you think you are more knowledgeable than one of the best political strategists of the GOP.

 

[alucard13mmfmj]

Can the delegate process be subjected to fraud? The GOP must be panicking if Ron is actually getting delegates from the ground up.

 

[jcarcinogen]

Maddow is a terrible person.

 

[flynn]

The way I see is, some optimism can build up momentum for the times to come. To win the nomination, Ron Paul will have to win the straw vote and delegates outright in the coming days.

 

[alucard13mmfmj]

Has a party candidate ever win the GOP without winning a state though? I am not too familiar with the party history.

Yes we need a win to get more/new donations and to get more supporters who can potentially be delegates.

 

[niklarin]

It's not like the Establishment didn't know this was our plan. But they can't do anything about it, except, possibly, fraudulent activities like mystery caucuses, etc.

Yeah, and even those turn out crushed by our people..

 

[flynn]

Has a party candidate ever win the GOP without winning a state though? I am not too familiar with the party history.

Yes we need a win to get more/new donations and to get more supporters who can potentially be delegates.

Warren Harding didn't win a single state and was the blackest of horse in the race. I think... need more fact checking.

 

[Trigonx]

Maybe because they felt they had to. If this forum is any example, the plethora of threads started in the last week or so proclaiming that the sky was falling, sure looked like some people were giving up. It's important that people do NOT give up and go out to vote and become delegates.

exactly, well said.

 

[splanky]

Warren Harding didn't win a single state and was the blackest of horse in the race. I think... need more fact checking.

There were only about 20 GOP state primaries in 1920. Harding was on the ballot in two, his native Ohio, which he won, and Indiana, which he lost. He wasn't exactly the blackest horse but he did come from behind. Roughly comparing then and now, Paul is about where Harding was. However, the 1920 GOP establishment, while favoring others, wasn't at all hostile to Harding. He had his own insiders in the GOP. Ah, the Progressive Era! May President Paul seal its coffin!

 

[AhuwaleKaNaneHuna]

Also, how encouraging is this news! If people hear this and now think Ron Paul has a shot then they may be willing to give him a serious look or even jump on board.

That's the biggest benefit to being so open about it. Through this, they can let the people know that there is a real chance and a vote for Paul is not wasted. The MSM, especially Fox, keep showwing Mitt with the vast majority of delegates. The viewers who are at least aware that RPs strategy is to pick up delegates, see him as loosing there to because of the false reporting of who has what. When Doug does these interviews, it helps get the truth out.

It was a shame to hear that a verbal memo went out telling establishment GOP to change locations of where the delegates would be elected and or to not vote for anyone under 40.

This is politics......................

 

[Stardreamer]

Its not ego or anger keeping them in...

question is, why is the establishment allowing gingrich and santorum to stay in the race... knowing that a brokered convention is in the best favor of ron paul. because the paul camp loved it when santorum won and took away romney's momentum.

I haven't been able to relocate the video but I will reiterate.

David Frum's palpable fear of Ron Paul exposed the CFR's strategy to minimize the impact of Dr. Paul's campaign. Frum was aghast at the thought of Gingrich and Santorum dropping out leaving just Romney to face Dr. Paul which in Frum's words would result in, "Paul picking up 30-40% of the vote in each state" and therefore becoming "credible".

If Dr. Paul dropped out tomorrow Santorum and Gingrich could stop pretending.

The CFR nightmare is that they have 3 frauds to keep propping up while every day the authentic grassroots of Dr. Paul grows...and overwhelming brush fires seem to be everywhere (because they are).

 

[Liberty1789]

Wead could have squeezed in that the current US President lost the primary popular vote to Hilary Clinton, but artfully won the delegates game...

 

[ghengis86]

question is, why is the establishment allowing gingrich and santorum to stay in the race... knowing that a brokered convention is in the best favor of ron paul. because the paul camp loved it when santorum won and took away romney's momentum.

while potentially good for RP, a brokered convention means the establishment could also nominate one of their puppets from the floor.
http://harndenblog.dailymail.co.uk/...rge-as-nominee-at-a-brokered-convention-.html

 

[Mordan]

Doug Wead is AWESOME. He is the BEESSST.

 

[Paul Or Nothing II]

I am, however, just a bit perplexed as to why the campaign seems so willing to broadcast and highlight this strategy, partcularly so early in the process.

lol... im having trouble figuring out why we are explaining this to the enemy. what if santorum, newt, and romney supporters is going to start doing this?...

not sure what the purpose of explaining this so early in the process...why tell the everyone about this?? help me understand given the enemy your strategy...it is not like it is a trap or deception there is no other way to win...

Maybe because they felt they had to. If this forum is any example, the plethora of threads started in the last week or so proclaiming that the sky was falling, sure looked like some people were giving up. It's important that people do NOT give up and go out to vote and become delegates.

I hope all the whining negative-nancies are happy now

Maddow is a terrible person.

True

 

[WilliamC]

I am, however, just a bit perplexed as to why the campaign seems so willing to broadcast and highlight this strategy, partcularly so early in the process.

Because the 'enemy' campaigns already know this, there is no value to hiding a strategy which is known to ones opponents.

This let's the 'outsiders' know what the insiders know, i.e. the process is political and depends not only on what you know but who you know.

This time it seems Ron Paul knows a lot of the right people, and it's making a difference.

 

[Sola_Fide]

There is no way the other campaigns don't know about our delegate strategy. But the thing is, they can't manufacture the enthusiasm like we have to take over the process. They might be able to pay for it, or change the rules...but an irate tireless minority just may be able to overcome it.