1500 People who showed up to caucus TURNED AWAY

[kathy88]

Amazing that the guy in that article could think disenfranchising 1500 people was the right call. Why didn't these people DEMAND to be able to participate?

Because they are sheep. And the ones that aren't probably got tazed. LOL.

 

[NoOneButPaul]

Exactly. This shouldn't have happened, but it did. Why? Because as we have seen time after time after time after time. From literally every state thus far, the GOP is the most inept, idiotic group of individuals that we so tirelessly try to be a part, yet they continually tear us a new one. I don't get why we do this.

I bet most of them were RP people, probably wearing shirts, hoodies, etc. I'm sure the volunteers told the state GOP this...ad played into their answer. I'm hoping these were old, Romney supporters that were showing up the, but who knows.

I will say this, it seems that from the early bird exit polling in the past caucus and primary states. RP people usually get there earlier...so we can hope?

The worst part is... if they were a bunch of old Romney/Santorum voters then the MSM will pick it up and run with it and spin a Paul win into an illegitimate one.

Maine, Iowa, Nevada... nothing to see there.

1500 Romney supporters get denied, watch what happens...

 

[TheGrinch]

LOL. Whatever you say. I'm not defending anybody. But lets personally attack each other. People just don't understand the caucus process. How it isn't an election sanctioned by the state. There is no civil rights violations or the like involved.


If you want people to vote whenever during the day, ask for a primary.

OK good, glad you came to your senses that they were not right to disenfranchise voters for safety reasons, when they had much time to expect this kind of turnout and did nothing...

 

[Philosophy_of_Politics]

They cannot use safety precautions or liability as a legal excuse, because turning away voters and denying them their chance to vote would actually increase the risk of public outrage or political riots.

This ^

 

[Brent H]

I was at a pooled caucus in Olympia. The country chairman suspended the rules (with a voice vote approval from the crowd) and delayed the start time by about 45 minutes to allow more people to get into the hall where the people were meeting. They did not close the doors until everyone was in. Then, it was standing room only.

 

[3kgt]

You cannot have people put in danger. There is a legal liability issue. If you fill in way too much, what else can you do?

They should have planned ahead and had multiple caucus times for areas like that, but once they didn't plan ahead, there is nothing they can do. I would have done the same, as I would want zero legal liability by having that many people in one place at once.

I agree somewhat but there are solutions that I believe should HAVE to be implemented i.e. the caucuses run longer and people can wait for their turn, so to speak.

 

[SCOTUSman]

OK good, glad you came to your senses that they were not right to disenfranchise voters for safety reasons, when they had much time to expect this kind of turnout and did nothing...

I'm not saying it is ethically or morally right. I'm speaking strictly legally speaking. People need to understand how the process works to most effectively take part in the process. Politics is the dirtiest game in the book.

 

[liberty2897]

You were at the caucus they are talking about?

Yes I was.

 

[SCOTUSman]

I was at a pooled caucus in Olympia. The country chairman suspended the rules (with a voice vote approval from the crowd) and delayed the start time by about 45 minutes to allow more people to get into the hall where the people were meeting. They did not close the doors until everyone was in. Then, it was standing room only.

Too bad people didn't use voice vote at this one and asked for multiple sessions of voting.

 

[SCOTUSman]

I agree somewhat but there are solutions that I believe should HAVE to be implemented i.e. the caucuses run longer and people can wait for their turn, so to speak.

Exactly. There should have been a request for multiple sessions of voting. There really should have been increased preparedness by the state if they were expecting such a turnout.

 

[SCOTUSman]

The worst part is... if they were a bunch of old Romney/Santorum voters then the MSM will pick it up and run with it and spin a Paul win into an illegitimate one.

Maine, Iowa, Nevada... nothing to see there.

1500 Romney supporters get denied, watch what happens...

Sadly true. There was little to no buzz on all those states stories. Especially where we got screwed in NV and ME. In the MSM, Maddow was the only one that mentioned it in ME. NOBODY in NV.

 

[sailingaway]

Because they are sheep. And the ones that aren't probably got tazed. LOL.

I don't think people should have to be up on political games and infighting to prevent their being disenfranchised. People are given no real choice but the two parties and the pretence is you can fully participate in and impact the outcome of who those parties elect. Wherever that model breaks down WE should be objecting, not blaming it on those caught completely unprepared, imho.

 

[andrew1229649]

Take the good with the bad....keep the caucus, it's far more transparent.

 

[Philosophy_of_Politics]

Who can we contact? Seriously? Do not let this one go until there is a resolution.

 

[sailingaway]

Take the good with the bad....keep the caucus, it's far more transparent.

Keep the caucus but require it to BE transparent

 

[Esoteric]

Romney won the Benton County caucuses in 2008.

 

[Ronulus]

Couldn't they have had the people inside finish up then let the rest in to the rooms as the others left and had them vote as well, like a part b.

 

[sailingaway]

Couldn't they have had the people inside finish up then let the rest in to the rooms as the others left and had them vote as well, like a part b.

many things COULD have happened.... and that sounds like a good way to deal with it, then just let back in those who want to stay to elect delegates etc

 

[tbone717]

Couldn't they have had the people inside finish up then let the rest in to the rooms as the others left and had them vote as well, like a part b.

Not without a change in the rules, which would have needed to be done via a voice or roll call vote.

Rules are here: http://youra.net/images/gop/2012caucusmanual.pdf - It is helpful that we read them and understand them before we make any claims or accusations.

 

[Aratus]

Hopefully the Ron Paul people were more motivated and got there early. Maybe this helps us?

hopefully, yes. but it looks like washington could have issues the way iowa and maine did. lets hope the officials are basically honest.