12 states on path to guns with no permits

[hillbilly123069]

Sorry if this has been posted. Didnt find it anywhere.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation...-gun-permits/53391932/1#.T1f4gKrVDQE.facebook

 

[eduardo89]

Question about Alaska, Arizona, Vermont and Wyoming...

Does no permit mean both open and concealed carry without a permit? Does it also mean no permit necessary to buy?


/ignorant foreigner

 

[Keith and stuff]

Question about Alaska, Arizona, Vermont and Wyoming...
Does no permit mean both open and concealed carry without a permit? Does it also mean no permit necessary to buy?
/ignorant foreigner

There are a whole bunch of states that don't require a permit to carry openly. These are states that don't require one to conceal carry. They also don't require a permit to buy, which is also true for most of the US.

VT doesn't have a permit process, so even though it doesn't require a permit to carry concealed, VT residents have a problem. They cannot carry in most other states concealed. Usually, VT residents may carry concealed in AK, AZ and WY because they don't require a permit and in NH without problem.

 

[eduardo89]

There are a whole bunch of states that don't require a permit to carry openly. These are states that don't require one to conceal carry. They also don't require a permit to buy, which is also true for most of the US.

VT doesn't have a permit process, so even though it doesn't require a permit to carry concealed, VT residents have a problem. They cannot carry in most other states concealed. Usually, VT residents may carry concealed in AK, AZ and WY because they don't require a permit and in NH without problem.

Thanks for the answer.

I knew about Vermont's problem with not issuing any sort of permit.

 

[youngbuck]

My state senator told me via email yesterday that they are outnumbered by democrats opposed to the bill. So, unfortunately for now, it looks like we'll continue to need a CCW in CO.

 

[osan]

Sorry if this has been posted. Didnt find it anywhere.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation...-gun-permits/53391932/1#.T1f4gKrVDQE.facebook

South Dakota could be the fifth state to join the ranks of permit-less carry states. Lawmakers last week passed a measure allowing anyone 18 and older with a valid state driver's license to carry a concealed weapon, as long as they don't have a background that would otherwise prohibit them from getting a permit.

Still need permission at the end of the day.

This requirement is utter bullshit and should be amended right out the door. Not to hip about the age requirement either. Neither are morally valid. So much for SD's notions of freedom.

 

[MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2]

VT doesn't have a permit process, so even though it doesn't require a permit to carry concealed, VT residents have a problem. They cannot carry in most other states concealed. Usually, VT residents may carry concealed in AK, AZ and WY because they don't require a permit and in NH without problem.

If it is important enough to someone, they can get a non-resident FL permit that is accepted by a bunch of states.

 

[ClydeCoulter]

Anyone know what the deal is with 7.62x39 ammo being "out of stock"? Large purchases going on the last few days or imports being delayed? I went to purchase 640 rnd tulammo, out of stock online (where I hang out) and my local dealer can't get 'em from his source that he has a contract for them with.

 

[fisharmor]

Still need permission at the end of the day.

This requirement is utter bullshit and should be amended right out the door. Not to hip about the age requirement either. Neither are morally valid. So much for SD's notions of freedom.

Holy crap I missed that first go around...
Note that it says "state driver's license", meaning "South Dakota driver's license".
Meaning, if you're from out of state, go screw.
Also, I like the bit about how you can't have a background that would prohibit getting one - how the hell are you supposed to know?
If you haven't heard horror stories about not being able to pass a NIC because of a paperwork snafu which is clearly an error that takes months or years to clear up, then you're not paying attention.

 

[osan]

Holy crap I missed that first go around...
Note that it says "state driver's license", meaning "South Dakota driver's license".

Does it mean that? Do you have the precise language of the bill? If it is unclear, then people may be at grave risk if they travel there, carry, and meet up with the fuzz.

 

[tmg19103]

I knew about Vermont's problem with not issuing any sort of permit.

What problem? VT has it right...

 

[Keith and stuff]

Holy crap I missed that first go around...
Note that it says "state driver's license", meaning "South Dakota driver's license".
Meaning, if you're from out of state, go screw.
Also, I like the bit about how you can't have a background that would prohibit getting one - how the hell are you supposed to know?
If you haven't heard horror stories about not being able to pass a NIC because of a paperwork snafu which is clearly an error that takes months or years to clear up, then you're not paying attention.

Perhaps if someone sees part of your weapon and calls the cops on you, the cops look you up by your driver's licensee and run a check on you? It could also be used to charge you with an additional charge if you commit another crime.

 

[AFPVet]

Still need permission at the end of the day.

This requirement is utter bullshit and should be amended right out the door. Not to hip about the age requirement either. Neither are morally valid. So much for SD's notions of freedom.

Well, the age for being a part of the unorganized or organized militia is usually 17-18, so being of age is technically constitutional. Now the "private" driver's license... not so much lol.

 

[Keith and stuff]

Well, the age for being a part of the unorganized or organized militia is usually 17-18, so being of age is technically constitutional. Now the "private" driver's license... not so much lol.

Perhaps. In NH, there is no age for carrying openly or receiving a concealed carry permit. Sure there are other states where children may carry openly. I mean, this has been a common part of US culture for 100s of years.

 

[Sun Tzu]

What problem? VT has it right...

I read his reply the same way you did. I like Vermont's laws better than the other states, at least.

 

[Sun Tzu]

Perhaps. In NH, there is no age for carrying openly or receiving a concealed carry permit. Sure there are other states where children may carry openly. I mean, this has been a common part of US culture for 100s of years.

Not to mention the right to defend yourself is something you are born with.

 

[eduardo89]

What problem? VT has it right...

Because Vermont residents can't carry in any other state that requires a permit. They should issue permits for anyone that asks for one so if they travel they can carry, but not require one to carry in Vermont.

 

[forliberty52]

"Wyoming's law went into effect in July. The state continues to issue permits for people who want to travel out of state" Why doesn't Vermont do the same thing and offer permits? If people need to leave the state and feel they need a fire arm when travelling in unknown areas why not give the option to do so. Gun control can go either way but it has to do with the morality of those carrying the weapons.

 

[eduardo89]

"Wyoming's law went into effect in July. The state continues to issue permits for people who want to travel out of state" Why doesn't Vermont do the same thing and offer permits? If people need to leave the state and feel they need a fire arm when travelling in unknown areas why not give the option to do so. Gun control can go either way but it has to do with the morality of those carrying the weapons.

Yup. That's what I was saying.

 

[Sun Tzu]

Yup. That's what I was saying.

Ah, I see what you are saying. I would rather the reverse was true, however, and you didn't need to be supplied with an infringement in order to travel. I also wish I had a million dollars.