101 Reasons to move to New Hampshire

[Keith and stuff]

I would overlook the cold and move there if NH would eliminate property taxes. Otherwise for me it is just another state to live as a slave to the state and the man.

Done. There are places in NH without property taxes. However, as they don't have property taxes, they tend to be in cold, isolated, undesirable places. In NH, most of the property taxes are set by the people in town meetings. These places get around that by being in unincorporated areas which are highly undesirable to live in. That way, there is no town where people are allowed to vote to create government services. The flip side of that, as is proven in NH, almost no one lives in these places because pretty much no one wants to live in a place without government services. However, if you are willing, there is land for sale right now.

I'll likely write a blog post about it soon. Until them, learn the skills to build a road, build a house, put up solar panels, build a truck that can transport natural gas and so on, or save up the money to hire someone else to do it for you

 

[aloneinthewilderness]

Done. There are places in NH without property taxes. However, as they don't have property taxes, they tend to be in cold, isolated, undesirable places. In NH, most of the property taxes are set by the people in town meetings. These places get around that by being in unincorporated areas which are highly undesirable to live in. That way, there is no town where people are allowed to vote to create government services. The flip side of that, as is proven in NH, almost no one lives in these places because pretty much no one wants to live in a place without government services. However, if you are willing, there is land for sale right now.

I'll likely write a blog post about it soon. Until them, learn the skills to build a road, build a house, put up solar panels, build a truck that can transport natural gas and so on, or save up the money to hire someone else to do it for you

That's not so undesirable to me. I've been tossing around the idea of coming over, but I'm not there yet. I'm waiting for you guys to pass constitutional carry and decriminalize marijuana. That will prove to me that NH is serious about liberty. If I do, I definitely want to stay in the northern half of the state, away from the crowd. I just have to figure out a way to support my family up there. Most of my skills are in carpentry, etc. so there is a little flexibility. Pittsburg would be a dream come true, but reality suggests that probably won't happen. Maybe a little south of there, we'll see. We're talking about moving back to northeast VT where we came from a few months ago, because the Champain Valley isn't as great as my wife thought it would be. Maybe soon we'll be ready to cross the river.

 

[TCE]

Here you go Keith and Stuff, New Hampshire ranked best state to live in for 2012 by CNBC:

http://www.cnbc.com/id/48058146/?slide=11

 

[Bastiat's The Law]

LOL @ New Hampshire being cold. You don't know cold.

 

[Keith and stuff]

New Hampshire has the 2nd lowest percentage of total population comprised of children in kinship care.

Kinship care is when children are taken care of by family other than their birth parents because their birth parents cannot or will not take care of them.

Percentage of total population comprised of children in kinship care
1. Wisconsin 0.35%
2. New Hampshire 0.38%
3. Minnesota 0.39%
4. Idaho 0.44%
5. Massachusetts 0.47%
...
47. Louisiana 1.42%
48. Kentucky 1.44%
49. Oklahoma 1.48%
50. Mississippi 1.78%

http://datacenter.kidscount.org/dat...loct=2&by=a&order=a&ind=7172&dtm=14207&tf=995

 

[CaptainAmerica]

because I LOVE TOLLBOOTHS.

 

[Anti Federalist]

That's not so undesirable to me. I've been tossing around the idea of coming over, but I'm not there yet. I'm waiting for you guys to pass constitutional carry and decriminalize marijuana. That will prove to me that NH is serious about liberty. If I do, I definitely want to stay in the northern half of the state, away from the crowd. I just have to figure out a way to support my family up there. Most of my skills are in carpentry, etc. so there is a little flexibility. Pittsburg would be a dream come true, but reality suggests that probably won't happen. Maybe a little south of there, we'll see. We're talking about moving back to northeast VT where we came from a few months ago, because the Champain Valley isn't as great as my wife thought it would be. Maybe soon we'll be ready to cross the river.

Colebrook.

 

[Keith and stuff]

because I LOVE TOLLBOOTHS.

I am not sure what you meant by your comment. According to what I read on Wikipedia, around 29 states have tolls and another 4-5 states are looking at creating tolls. Several of the states with tolls are looking at building new tolls, according to Wikipedia. According to Wikipedia, NH, GA, LA and SC are the states the the lowest tolls.

Another work around was just built for the 2nd most used toll in NH (the one between Manchester and Nashua). There is an airport near the highway between Manchester and Nashua. Federal funds were used to help build an airport access road. Now, people traveling that highway from the north and south are able to avoid the toll by taking an exit ramp to the airport access road and then turning around. It adds 1-2 minutes to the trip but avoids the $1 toll.

Most locals who live near Nashua, Manchester and Concord know about it. The ability to avoid the toll was covered by the major papers and the TV news. My guess is that a lot of tourist from NY don't know about it, though. Still, the NH government estimates that the state will take in $4,500,000 to $6,000,000 less per year because of people not traveling through the toll booth.

All of the toll roads in NH have 1-3 non-toll roads that parallel them. For example, both Route 1 and Route 1A parallel the partial toll Blue Star Turnpike. I-93, Route 3 and Route 3A parallel the toll Frederick E. Everett Turnpike. It is usually very easy to avoid tolls in NH.

That said, I understand why some people don't like tolls. I try to avoid tolls both in NH and when traveling outside of the state. Usually, I manage too do it I recommend the same to others If I was able to, I would reduce the amount of tolls in NH and outside of NH.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_toll_roads_in_the_United_States

 

[Austrian Econ Disciple]

I am not sure what you meant by your comment. According to what I read on Wikipedia, around 29 states have tolls and another 4-5 states are looking at creating tolls. Several of the states with tolls are looking at building new tolls, according to Wikipedia. According to Wikipedia, NH, GA, LA and SC are the states the the lowest tolls.

Another work around was just built for the 2nd most used toll in NH (the one between Manchester and Nashua). There is an airport near the highway between Manchester and Nashua. Federal funds were used to help build an airport access road. Now, people traveling that highway from the north and south are able to avoid the toll by taking an exit ramp to the airport access road and then turning around. It adds 1-2 minutes to the trip but avoids the $1 toll.

Most locals who live near Nashua, Manchester and Concord know about it. The ability to avoid the toll was covered by the major papers and the TV news. My guess is that a lot of tourist from NY don't know about it, though. Still, the NH government estimates that the state will take in $4,500,000 to $6,000,000 less per year because of people not traveling through the toll booth.

All of the toll roads in NH have 1-3 non-toll roads that parallel them. For example, both Route 1 and Route 1A parallel the partial toll Blue Star Turnpike. I-93, Route 3 and Route 3A parallel the toll Frederick E. Everett Turnpike. It is usually very easy to avoid tolls in NH.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_toll_roads_in_the_United_States

The problem I have with State-tolls, is that you are all ready taxed for using the roads in the first place via Gasoline. There ought to be restrictions for the amount of times the Government can tax you for the same damn thing they force down your throat. In any event, we have bigger fish to fry.

 

[helmuth_hubener]

Don't worry about the tolls. Tolls and user fees are the right way to do things, and taxes are the wrong way. Focus on getting rid of the taxes.

 

[Keith and stuff]

Since breast feeding is a very recent topic of discussion here, I figured I'd mention an article and a report about breast feeding.

Lots of breast feeding is happening in New Hampshire

Breast feeding. The government recommends it. Most women recommend it. Babies tend to like it.

Why breast feed?

Breastfeeding is linked to a wide range of benefits for both mother and baby. Babies who have been breastfed have lower rates of middle ear infections, colds and gastroenteritis and are at lower risk of dying of Sudden Infant Death Syndrome, developing type 2 diabetes or becoming obese. Mothers who breastfeed drive down their risk of breast and ovarian cancer, heart disease and Type 2 diabetes.

In a state-by-state breakdown of breastfeeding practices, the CDC showed Utah, Oregon, Vermont and New Hampshire to be among the nation's breastfeeding champions, with rates of breastfeeding at 6 and 12 months well above the national average. Among the states with the lowest rates of breastfeeding were those which, not coincidentally, have the highest rates of diabetes and obesity, including Alabama, Louisiana, Mississippi, Kentucky and West Virginia.

Article
Breastfeeding gets a boost
By Melissa Healy, Los Angeles Times For the Booster Shots Blog
August 1, 2012, 5:16 p.m.
http://www.latimes.com/news/science/la-heb-breastfeeding-boost-20120801,0,4407100.story

Report
Breastfeeding Report Card 2012, United States: Outcome Indicators
http://www.cdc.gov/breastfeeding/data/reportcard2.htm

 

[TomtheTinker]

The Free state project is a failure, if New Hampshire is no better than the rest of the united states. Idaho and Montana see like the best candidates for a real free state project.

its the best state in thr northeast...doesnt mean its a fsilure bevause its not firing on all cylinders.

 

[Anti Federalist]

We've talked about this before, and the problem that I have with taking the feds funding on projects like this, is, in this particular case, the string attached that surveillance cameras be installed along the road.

On Rt. 16, from Portsmouth to Dover, whole swaths of trees were cut down, just so the everfucking spy cameras, run by and tied into some creepy "private" surveillance company down in Maryland, could have a clear field of view.

I wish I could generate some outrage over these things so they could be removed, regardless of the protections in place at the state level as to how the data gets used.

Once this data gets into "private" hands, there's no telling who they are selling it to.

Frankly, I'd gladly pay higher fuel taxes and/or tolls, if it was used to eject the feds totally from any road projects or rulemaking within the state.

I am not sure what you meant by your comment. According to what I read on Wikipedia, around 29 states have tolls and another 4-5 states are looking at creating tolls. Several of the states with tolls are looking at building new tolls, according to Wikipedia. According to Wikipedia, NH, GA, LA and SC are the states the the lowest tolls.

Another work around was just built for the 2nd most used toll in NH (the one between Manchester and Nashua). There is an airport near the highway between Manchester and Nashua. Federal funds were used to help build an airport access road. Now, people traveling that highway from the north and south are able to avoid the toll by taking an exit ramp to the airport access road and then turning around. It adds 1-2 minutes to the trip but avoids the $1 toll.

Most locals who live near Nashua, Manchester and Concord know about it. The ability to avoid the toll was covered by the major papers and the TV news. My guess is that a lot of tourist from NY don't know about it, though. Still, the NH government estimates that the state will take in $4,500,000 to $6,000,000 less per year because of people not traveling through the toll booth.

All of the toll roads in NH have 1-3 non-toll roads that parallel them. For example, both Route 1 and Route 1A parallel the partial toll Blue Star Turnpike. I-93, Route 3 and Route 3A parallel the toll Frederick E. Everett Turnpike. It is usually very easy to avoid tolls in NH.

That said, I understand why some people don't like tolls. I try to avoid tolls both in NH and when traveling outside of the state. Usually, I manage too do it I recommend the same to others If I was able to, I would reduce the amount of tolls in NH and outside of NH.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_toll_roads_in_the_United_States

 

[Austrian Econ Disciple]

Don't worry about the tolls. Tolls and user fees are the right way to do things, and taxes are the wrong way. Focus on getting rid of the taxes.

There's no difference between a toll/fee and a tax. You don't have a choice either way -- remember, roads are a State-monopoly.

 

[showpan]

I used to ride to NH a lot. i haven't read this whole thread but I know most of the roads are in a lot better shape than Vermont.

102 reasons = Laconia

 

[TCE]

There's no difference between a toll/fee and a tax. You don't have a choice either way -- remember, roads are a State-monopoly.

In a free society, businessmen charging a user-fee to drive on their roads is not the same as a tax.

 

[Austrian Econ Disciple]

In a free society, businessmen charging a user-fee to drive on their roads is not the same as a tax.

Duh, but do we have a free society? No. Did the post I quote say anything about non-State roads? No. I rest my case.

 

[helmuth_hubener]

There's no difference between a toll/fee and a tax. You don't have a choice either way -- remember, roads are a State-monopoly.

There is a difference. In the case of a toll, the users of the things are charged for using it, when they use it, kind of like the normal situation for a normal good. In the case of a tax, people who may or may not use the thing at all just have their property stolen willy-nilly.

The toll situation is thus objectively closer to a market situation, even though the road system is still a compulsory monopoly, enforced with the threat of violence. Similarly, it would be a positive step, in my opinion, to reduce or end all property tax funding of the gov't indoctrination camps and instead increase or make total the funding of them by user fees on those who send their children there, even if they have no choice but to do so (truancy laws require it, home-schooling and private schooling is outlawed, etc.). If all roads were paid for by their users, it would be an improved situation from a libertarian point of view, and an easier transition to simply privatize them all.

 

[jbauer]

If you were a good shot couldn't you "pluck" the cammeras off 1 by 1? Not sure what the view radius is for the cammeras though? Always was a good way to take care of annoying flood lights.

We've talked about this before, and the problem that I have with taking the feds funding on projects like this, is, in this particular case, the string attached that surveillance cameras be installed along the road.

On Rt. 16, from Portsmouth to Dover, whole swaths of trees were cut down, just so the everfucking spy cameras, run by and tied into some creepy "private" surveillance company down in Maryland, could have a clear field of view.

I wish I could generate some outrage over these things so they could be removed, regardless of the protections in place at the state level as to how the data gets used.

Once this data gets into "private" hands, there's no telling who they are selling it to.

Frankly, I'd gladly pay higher fuel taxes and/or tolls, if it was used to eject the feds totally from any road projects or rulemaking within the state.

 

[Anti Federalist]

If you were a good shot couldn't you "pluck" the cammeras off 1 by 1? Not sure what the view radius is for the cammeras though? Always was a good way to take care of annoying flood lights.

That would be highly illegal, and would open myself to multiple felony charges.

I would never consider such a thing.