(10/26/11) Ron Paul on Fox News - Official Thread

[SharedSacrifice]

GOP primary voters aren't big Rockwell readers.

I resemble that remark (for pretty much my entire life save a vote cast for Perot) and am an on the fence supporter of RP who evidently doesn't read 'Rockwell' (my sole libertarian exposure being the recent groundbreaking shows on the Fox Business Channel).

As others have mentioned, the man needs to slow down...stick to the question that is asked (us GOP kool-aiders are used to evasive answers so rambling responses, no matter the content, have the same effect)...and be ready with a pretty much stock answer for those instances where you may have been misunderstood in the past (whether quoted by the panel or simply responding to a film clip he somehow refuses to stay focused on even an answer that most would suspect is coming 'somewhere' in the reponse).

Most importantly of all (and ironically this is where he outshines all other GOP contenders) a fast talker/thinker such as himself needs to be spot on with the details concerning spending cuts.

If somebody is hammering you with questions concerning $200 billion cuts concerning the defense and security of our country...and you aren't countering quick enough to tick off $150 billion or so like a machine gun with accuracy and specificity...you're losing just as many voters who remember what the cold war was all about (fiscally) as you might be gaining through any promise to get rid of known waste/fraud or present can't-afford-it-anymore missions.

I don't applaud Fox for much anymore but this type of candidate forum has been the single most revealing and informative that I have ever witnessed. Every single candidate has turned noticeably more uncomfortable as time has progressed smack dab in the middle of four questioners...and I like it.

 

[Meiun]

The Krauthammer exchange on the Suez/Panama Canal question was awesome: "Study it, talk to the Congress, identify the enemy, declare war, go in, win and be done with it."

BOOM. You could literally see Krautie's nuts shrink up to his throat.

Eewww! Gawd... come on man. That's just a bad mental image. Who and why would you even think about saurkraut's nuts? yuck.

 

[bluesc]

I resemble that remark (for pretty much my entire life save a vote cast for Perot) and am an on the fence supporter of RP who evidently doesn't read 'Rockwell' (my sole libertarian exposure being the recent groundbreaking shows on the Fox Business Channel).

As others have mentioned, the man needs to slow down...stick to the question that is asked (us GOP kool-aiders are used to evasive answers so rambling responses, no matter the content, have the same effect)...and be ready with a pretty much stock answer for those instances where you may have been misunderstood in the past (whether quoted by the panel or simply responding to a film clip he somehow refuses to stay focused on even an answer that most would suspect is coming 'somewhere' in the reponse).

Most importantly of all (and ironically this is where he outshines all other GOP contenders) a fast talker/thinker such as himself needs to be spot on with the details concerning spending cuts.

If somebody is hammering you with questions concerning $200 billion cuts concerning the defense and security of our country...and you aren't countering quick enough to tick off $150 billion or so like a machine gun with accuracy and specificity...you're losing just as many voters who remember what the cold war was all about (fiscally) as you might be gaining through any promise to get rid of known waste/fraud or present can't-afford-it-anymore missions.

I don't applaud Fox for much anymore but this type of candidate forum has been the single most revealing and informative that I have ever witnessed. Every single candidate has turned noticeably more uncomfortable as time progressed smack dab in the middle of four questioners...and I like it.

Welcome!

I don't feel comfortable with you being on the fence. Start a thread, ask questions, and become a strong supporter !

 

[Brett85]

I resemble that remark (for pretty much my entire life save a vote cast for Perot) and am an on the fence supporter of RP who evidently doesn't read 'Rockwell' (my sole libertarian exposure being the recent groundbreaking shows on the Fox Business Channel).

As others have mentioned, the man needs to slow down...stick to the question that is asked (us GOP kool-aiders are used to evasive answers so rambling responses, no matter the content, have the same effect)...and be ready with a pretty much stock answer for those instances where you may have been misunderstood in the past (whether quoted by the panel or simply responding to a film clip he somehow refuses to stay focused on even an answer that most would suspect is coming 'somewhere' in the reponse).

Most importantly of all (and ironically this is where he outshines all other GOP contenders) a fast talker/thinker such as himself needs to be spot on with the details concerning spending cuts.

If somebody is hammering you with questions concerning $200 billion cuts concerning the defense and security of our country...and you aren't countering quick enough to tick off $150 billion or so like a machine gun with accuracy and specificity...you're losing just as many voters who remember what the cold war was all about (fiscally) as you might be gaining through any promise to get rid of known waste/fraud or present can't-afford-it-anymore missions.

I don't applaud Fox for much anymore but this type of candidate forum has been the single most revealing and informative that I have ever witnessed. Every single candidate has turned noticeably more uncomfortable as time progressed smack dab in the middle of four questioners...and I like it.

Exactly. You nailed that.

 

[Dary]

Ya know, I just got home and have just now finished reading every post in this thread. But I haven't yet watched the video. I'm almost afraid to. Many of the comments - and especially those from some posters whose opinions I generally respect - make me very reluctant to watch. I sometimes get so discouraged with the way things so often go for Ron, that I can barely stand to see any more of it. What to do, what to do?

Watch the segments.

They were awesome.

I've gotten so sick of the naysayers that I've done what I thought I'd never do on this board, but oh well... I'm using the ignore feature.

 

[sailingaway]

I agree. It just seems like Ron has done a 180 on the immigration issue since 2007. He's become influenced by the Libertarian Party on this issue. I remember he had some hardcore anti illegal immigration ads back in 2007.

He really hasn't. He just never went into the detail. Bachmann has evaded what she'd do. Ron's record of VOTES speaks for itself. The TONE of the ads was unnecessary, but I don't think his positions have changed at all.

 

[Brett85]

Ron's record of VOTES speaks for itself.

That's the thing. If I didn't know all about Ron's voting record, I probably wouldn't support him. He really has an unbelievable voting record overall, and really even a very conservative one. But I just wouldn't get that if I simply listened to him in interviews like this and the debates. It's just frustrating to me that he goes on a show on Fox News and acts like he's giving an interview on MSNBC.

 

[sailingaway]

That's the thing. If I didn't know all about Ron's voting record, I probably wouldn't support him. He really has an unbelievable voting record overall, and really even a very conservative one. But I just wouldn't get that if I simply listened to him in interviews like this and the debates. It's just frustrating to me that he goes on a show on Fox News and acts like he's giving an interview on MSNBC.

I agree it is frustrating and I think it is because many of staff nearest to him are movement libertarians and have an exaggerated opinion of Johnson's potential influence. I think they are simply wrong, if that is the case. Paul people are Paul people.

 

[CMoore]

I just watched the toob of the live portion. He was GREAT!!! He sounded like a professor schooling a bunch of "slow" learners. I am looking forward to watching the online segment. Take heart, folks. Many people are going to see this and be won over.

 

[Dary]

I just watched the toob of the live portion. He was GREAT!!! He sounded like a professor schooling a bunch of "slow" learners. I am looking forward to watching the online segment. Take heart, folks. Many people are going to see this and be won over.

That's the spirit. +rep

 

[isrow]

I just watched the toob of the live portion. He was GREAT!!! He sounded like a professor schooling a bunch of "slow" learners. I am looking forward to watching the online segment. Take heart, folks. Many people are going to see this and be won over.

I watched it with my friend who likes Ron Paul and will vote for him but isn't into politics, he said it sounded like a grandpa trying to explain to a bunch of children why they can't have entitlements, an empire, and a good economy.

 

[parocks]

I watched a bunch of video clips online and maybe I missed the bad part. He was given a grilling. They didn't talk about 20 year old newsletters. He answered the questions pretty much like he always does, maybe a little better. I missed the "oh, there's big trouble now" moment. Fine job. Not a Grand Slam. But a fine job.

 

[beardedlinen]

Krauthammer is macabre. Ron should have manned up. I'm very disillusioned.

 

[bolidew]

WHY OH WHY!!! Couldn't this be on live TV... So much better than the oh so short hit they put on him before they went online.

Because the hosts eased down their games when most people were not watching, somewhat like the garbage time in basketball games.
Do expect more tough vetting when Ron's poll number rises.

 

[yeshuaisiam]

I've been a voter for Ron Paul for over a decade. I have my photo with him and have met his wife. I don't post a lot here, but I promote him like crazy.

My opinion on both of the videos was that he did great on the grill on air, and greater on the online.

I thought he articulated the questions very well that were ambushing him. I like how he told the guy humbly "let me finish".

I don't share the opinion with others that it was not good. I thought it was very good. The questions were easier on the online no doubt. This venue was about grilling which he pulled off nicely.

 

[raiha]

I thought he did fantastically!!!

Must have been unnerving sitting next to Krauthammer...I would have half expected a jab from a lethal injection had i been Ron. 10 out of 10.

 

[bb_dg]

You guys were making me all depress because you guys kept saying he did terribly. I just saw it and I think he did really well.

 

[lucent]

You guys were making me all depress because you guys kept saying he did terribly. I just saw it and I think he did really well.

That's because certain people on here exaggerate everything.

 

[ONUV]

ron paul doesn't use talking points. so when he's faced with a tough question it takes some time to come up with an answer. he admits that conveying his message is a weakness but being sincere is better than coming off as a slick politician like romney.

 

[nayjevin]