In my industry, we work 8 hours shifts with weekend overtime. I would gladly accept 3 12-hour shifts a week, so another person can work the same (and relieve me of overtime).
If we recall the quote "many shall seek, and few shall find.." and also "Not everyone who keeps saying to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will get into the kingdom...", then I suspect the chart may not accurately reflect who is truly converted, and who is not. Just a thought.....
Also, on the other end of...
Thank you for the reply.
For me, I see that in some regards both sides of the "God did it, or you did it" (freewill or lack thereof) debate have merit. God responded to my actions, in response to my actions towards Him. It becomes a chicken or the egg idea at some point, but I do feel that yes...
I will attest to this.
God presented Himself to me several times and I turned away and I hardened up again. Thank God He came again and this time I obeyed. His Grace gives me the means, I just "follow The Leader". It's all severely simple!
I think what AB is saying (that I happen to agree with), is that God's door is always open, but you must choose to walk through it. God's ways are not our ways, if He hardens someone He probably has an all-knowing reason. I don't think you can "blame" AB for saying "it's all on God" no more than...
So far as I've been told from a somewhat learned friend, the letter of 1st John also touched on a Gnostic element when John addressed "those who think they are without sin" (paraphrased). I'd have to dig up a bunch of stuff to go much into that specific however. The gist of it as I understood it...
Interesting thread. What comes to my mind is that the bulk of us are debating written texts and external data basically. Our "Gnostic Christian" friend (quote tags not used in a negative light) rightly pointed out that the Kingdom of the Most High God is in you.. and I would add that *if* you...
A definition of religion is "a body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices" or "a practice of religious beliefs; ritual observance of faith."
One conclusion of this is that by trying to adhere to "the rules", we somehow appease a god for our shortcomings and bad actions...
Oddly, I thought the thinking I wrote about was getting away from Hellenistic thinking (Greek "this or that" mentality), to promote some extra ideas.
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