You're not going to believe this audio - Nueces County Texas Republican Convention

[LiveToWin]

Look at my sig. We are on box 3 of 4 now.

 

[sratiug]

We just finished an ugly mess here in Mecklenburg County, NC. The Democrats used crony-mastered precincts to select a sherrif's nominee in a special election. This dominated the news for a month or more, and resulted in a Democratic hearing by the state party that threw out the election. The hearing itself produced jaw-dropping admissions of negligence and vote rigging.

I actually think this ugly spectacle may have played a role in the fairly clean GOP caucuses we've had in 9th District, since the Repubs have an incentive to demonstrate that they can hold fair party elections.

Anyway, this has the potential to be a big scandal and bring a lot of disgrace to party leaders, if the media picks it up.

Wouldn't it be nice if CSPAN had been covering this? Maybe someone calling in and playing a section of this could part of it on the air, and maybe some discussion?

This could be a "Howard Dean" type of event for the GOP leaders. Howard Dean could be a good person to see this truth and play it up to embarrass McCain and the GOP.

 

[steph3n]

wow I just got a moment to listen to this today after seeing the topic yesterday. UnREAL!

This audio can result in throwing out this entire CO 'convention' it was totally bogus.

 

[constituent]

I am in Corpus Christi right now on vacation, that video was not a good thing for my blood pressure.

i take it you're in downtown? perhaps on shoreline dr.? the caller times in only blocks away if so (unless you went to spid for island proximity)!!!! go go go get down there!


all this is par for the course. i lived in corpus for two years. satan lives in corpus christi, i give you my personal assurances.

great job cc revolutionaries!

 

[constituent]

re: post


i think violence is counter-productive. public humiliation is far more effective.

take for example, the nueces county convention.

the chairman's name??? what was it? what about the "new" delegates, what were
their names? where do they work? certainly they have phone numbers, and it's very
likely that they've got pics online somewhere.

how about a central site where all this data is collected for public scrutiny. no one should
act on their pictures being there, or even bother contacting these chumps or harassing them,
but i assure you just knowing it's out there would drive these people crazy !!!!!!!! and certainly
act as a deterrent to any other party hacks taking similar actions.


simple solutions for simple problems. we still win.

anyone wanna help?

 

[therealjjj77]

Just a thought, the point is to try and make this kind of stuff NOT happen. We already know how they are programmed. Why insert the same code and get the same results? They all watch the same news channels and listen to the same radio. There is nothing about this to get emotional over. If you understand THEIR language, you can get in no problem and help change it from the inside out. The debate is not to be a forceful one but one more of friendly questions and a purely Constitutional and Declaration of Independence approach. That means you had to have read those. With that approach you can reprogram them with ease.

Yesterday at the district convention, I stood up against a platform plank that was being amended. The three people who spoke for it included one of our state senators, the chair of the convention, and an elderly lady. They all gave very well prepared speeches in favor of it. It was essentially a support for funding research and development in aging and chronic disease.

First, I maintained my credibility as a Republican up until that point(they do not need me overly zealous for Ron Paul to know that I support the Constitution and Declaration of Independence).

Second, I addressed the issue in their language:
"First, I want to commend the intent of this plank. Aging and chronic disease are a serious problem in our state and society. However, I disagree with the approach. There are always two ways in which a problem can be addressed. One way is the socialist way which involves more taxation and regulations. Well we know that hasn't worked and will continue to fail. The other way is the Republican approach, the conservative approach, and that is to remove the legislation and taxation barriers that prevent the free market from solving these problems. I do commend the intent of this plank, and commend those who have stood up in favor of it, but I cannot support it because of the approach it takes in dealing with this problem is a downward approach and will not achieve the results we desire."

By using their words and making this a clear affront to republicanism/conservatism I was able to sway the majority to vote it down(this was with about 20 Ron Paul people and 300 non-Ron Paul supporters). Conversely, I made the chair and our senator look like socialists. =D

Also, this is the same approach I took while on the district platform committee that morning in helping them to decide with me against that plank.

Moral of the story, if you go in there unaware of the words and actions that will turn them off to you, you will more then likely blunder and create an awkward situation.

But if you understand the language and approach that they are programmed to that they are accustomed to, then you'll have no problem making your way up the ranks and having an enormous influence.

To learn the way they think, first start with the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. Then listen to Rush, Hannity, Fox News, Bill O'Reilly. You don't have to like them or everything they say, but just listen to the words they use. Observe how they never approach things with an emotional viewpoint but instead use a logical(or somewhat seemingly logical) approach. Go to some retirement homes and just listen to people. Also, stay level headed and always be the person to bring clarity to a subject. Always be very friendly with people and meet as many as you can. Shake hands with many of them and introduce yourself. Chit chat with them and talk about the price of gas and politics. But do more listening and agreeing with and you will learn a whole lot about how they stand. Talk about issues instead of candidates.

 

[rancher89]

Just a thought, the point is to try and make this kind of stuff NOT happen. We already know how they are programmed. Why insert the same code and get the same results? They all watch the same news channels and listen to the same radio. There is nothing about this to get emotional over. If you understand THEIR language, you can get in no problem and help change it from the inside out. The debate is not to be a forceful one but one more of friendly questions and a purely Constitutional and Declaration of Independence approach. That means you had to have read those. With that approach you can reprogram them with ease.

Yesterday at the district convention, I stood up against a platform plank that was being amended. The three people who spoke for it included one of our state senators, the chair of the convention, and an elderly lady. They all gave very well prepared speeches in favor of it. It was essentially a support for funding research and development in aging and chronic disease.

First, I maintained my credibility as a Republican up until that point(they do not need me overly zealous for Ron Paul to know that I support the Constitution and Declaration of Independence).

Second, I addressed the issue in their language:
"First, I want to commend the intent of this plank. Aging and chronic disease are a serious problem in our state and society. However, I disagree with the approach. There are always two ways in which a problem can be addressed. One way is the socialist way which involves more taxation and regulations. Well we know that hasn't worked and will continue to fail. The other way is the Republican approach, the conservative approach, and that is to remove the legislation and taxation barriers that prevent the free market from solving these problems. I do commend the intent of this plank, and commend those who have stood up in favor of it, but I cannot support it because of the approach it takes in dealing with this problem is a downward approach and will not achieve the results we desire."

By using their words and making this a clear affront to republicanism/conservatism I was able to sway the majority to vote it down(this was with about 20 Ron Paul people and 300 non-Ron Paul supporters). Conversely, I made the chair and our senator look like socialists. =D

Also, this is the same approach I took while on the district platform committee that morning in helping them to decide with me against that plank.

Moral of the story, if you go in there unaware of the words and actions that will turn them off to you, you will more then likely blunder and create an awkward situation.

But if you understand the language and approach that they are programmed to that they are accustomed to, then you'll have no problem making your way up the ranks and having an enormous influence.

To learn the way they think, first start with the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. Then listen to Rush, Hannity, Fox News, Bill O'Reilly. You don't have to like them or everything they say, but just listen to the words they use. Observe how they never approach things with an emotional viewpoint but instead use a logical(or somewhat seemingly logical) approach. Go to some retirement homes and just listen to people. Also, stay level headed and always be the person to bring clarity to a subject. Always be very friendly with people and meet as many as you can. Shake hands with many of them and introduce yourself. Chit chat with them and talk about the price of gas and politics. But do more listening and agreeing with and you will learn a whole lot about how they stand. Talk about issues instead of candidates.

EXCELLENT point, and well said---how did the vote go? This is definetly the way to approach the situation.

 

[The One]

I'm speechless. I am without speech.

 

[therealjjj77]

EXCELLENT point, and well said---how did the vote go? This is definetly the way to approach the situation.

It was about 80% that voted down the plank. Also, I had the most votes for moving on to the state platform committee. There were 4 seats. I even ended up with more votes then the platform district chair(not to be confused with the convention chair).

 

[Conza88]

Just a thought, the point is to try and make this kind of stuff NOT happen. We already know how they are programmed. Why insert the same code and get the same results? They all watch the same news channels and listen to the same radio. There is nothing about this to get emotional over. If you understand THEIR language, you can get in no problem and help change it from the inside out. The debate is not to be a forceful one but one more of friendly questions and a purely Constitutional and Declaration of Independence approach. That means you had to have read those. With that approach you can reprogram them with ease.

Yesterday at the district convention, I stood up against a platform plank that was being amended. The three people who spoke for it included one of our state senators, the chair of the convention, and an elderly lady. They all gave very well prepared speeches in favor of it. It was essentially a support for funding research and development in aging and chronic disease.

First, I maintained my credibility as a Republican up until that point(they do not need me overly zealous for Ron Paul to know that I support the Constitution and Declaration of Independence).

Second, I addressed the issue in their language:
"First, I want to commend the intent of this plank. Aging and chronic disease are a serious problem in our state and society. However, I disagree with the approach. There are always two ways in which a problem can be addressed. One way is the socialist way which involves more taxation and regulations. Well we know that hasn't worked and will continue to fail. The other way is the Republican approach, the conservative approach, and that is to remove the legislation and taxation barriers that prevent the free market from solving these problems. I do commend the intent of this plank, and commend those who have stood up in favor of it, but I cannot support it because of the approach it takes in dealing with this problem is a downward approach and will not achieve the results we desire."

By using their words and making this a clear affront to republicanism/conservatism I was able to sway the majority to vote it down(this was with about 20 Ron Paul people and 300 non-Ron Paul supporters). Conversely, I made the chair and our senator look like socialists. =D

Also, this is the same approach I took while on the district platform committee that morning in helping them to decide with me against that plank.

Moral of the story, if you go in there unaware of the words and actions that will turn them off to you, you will more then likely blunder and create an awkward situation.

But if you understand the language and approach that they are programmed to that they are accustomed to, then you'll have no problem making your way up the ranks and having an enormous influence.

To learn the way they think, first start with the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. Then listen to Rush, Hannity, Fox News, Bill O'Reilly. You don't have to like them or everything they say, but just listen to the words they use. Observe how they never approach things with an emotional viewpoint but instead use a logical(or somewhat seemingly logical) approach. Go to some retirement homes and just listen to people. Also, stay level headed and always be the person to bring clarity to a subject. Always be very friendly with people and meet as many as you can. Shake hands with many of them and introduce yourself. Chit chat with them and talk about the price of gas and politics. But do more listening and agreeing with and you will learn a whole lot about how they stand. Talk about issues instead of candidates.

ok. Make this a thread on its own, now - or I will. ->
Thats definitely a seemingly awesome way of working them over!

 

[sratiug]

ok. Make this a thread on its own, now - or I will. ->
Thats definitely a seemingly awesome way of working them over!

I second your motion.

 

[therealjjj77]

ok. Make this a thread on its own, now - or I will. ->
Thats definitely a seemingly awesome way of working them over!

Go ahead if you wish.

 

[ItsTime]

Contact Ron Paul HQ!

 

[Conza88]

Go ahead if you wish.

It was a bluff. -> haha.
Think its better coming from you, teh OP

 

[ItsTime]

Good Points calls for this guy:

re: post


i think violence is counter-productive. public humiliation is far more effective.

take for example, the nueces county convention.

the chairman's name??? what was it? what about the "new" delegates, what were
their names? where do they work? certainly they have phone numbers, and it's very
likely that they've got pics online somewhere.

how about a central site where all this data is collected for public scrutiny. no one should
act on their pictures being there, or even bother contacting these chumps or harassing them,
but i assure you just knowing it's out there would drive these people crazy !!!!!!!! and certainly
act as a deterrent to any other party hacks taking similar actions.


simple solutions for simple problems. we still win.

anyone wanna help?

 

[rockandrollsouls]

how about we take LEGAL ACTION FOR ONCE

 

[Join The Paul Side]

This is sickening. They write the rules, we follow them, we're more intelligent than them, they get mad, they break the law, and then try and fuck us over.

That's pretty much how it goes. Welcome to America. I'm sorry for your rude awakening.

EDIT: I actually had to turn on "One Love" by Bob Marley to get me to chill out after hearing this.

In times like this, rather than listen to "One Love" , I prefer to listen to Marley's song.........

"Get up, stand up: stand up for your rights!
Get up, stand up: dont give up the fight!"

 

[hawks4ronpaul]

First, I maintained my credibility as a Republican up until that point(they do not need me overly zealous for Ron Paul to know that I support the Constitution and Declaration of Independence).

Second, I addressed the issue in their language:
"First, I want to commend the intent of this plank. Aging and chronic disease are a serious problem in our state and society. However, I disagree with the approach. There are always two ways in which a problem can be addressed. One way is the socialist way which involves more taxation and regulations. Well we know that hasn't worked and will continue to fail. The other way is the Republican approach, the conservative approach, and that is to remove the legislation and taxation barriers that prevent the free market from solving these problems. I do commend the intent of this plank, and commend those who have stood up in favor of it, but I cannot support it because of the approach it takes in dealing with this problem is a downward approach and will not achieve the results we desire."

By using their words and making this a clear affront to republicanism/conservatism I was able to sway the majority to vote it down(this was with about 20 Ron Paul people and 300 non-Ron Paul supporters). Conversely, I made the chair and our senator look like socialists. =D

1. Well done, yes, your reply is a good model for how we should demonstrate GOP rules, language, and values (real conservative values).

2. However, I think the OP involves the chair not following GOP rules and not allowing GOP language (not allowing people to speak as you did).

3. Regarding how to deal with #2, victory is when the neocons storm out, not when we storm out (they want us to leave).


http://hawks4ronpaul.blogspot.com/

 

[Nate SY]

That's pretty much how it goes. Welcome to America. I'm sorry for your rude awakening.




In times like this, rather than listen to "One Love" , I prefer to listen to Marley's song.........

"Get up, stand up: stand up for your rights!
Get up, stand up: dont give up the fight!"

Ahhhh... Good point. Get Up, Stand Up fits much better. Matter o' fact, I'm gonna turn it on now.

I wasn't really surprised by the action, more so how blatant it was.

 

[Join The Paul Side]

Just a thought, the point is to try and make this kind of stuff NOT happen. We already know how they are programmed. Why insert the same code and get the same results? They all watch the same news channels and listen to the same radio. There is nothing about this to get emotional over. If you understand THEIR language, you can get in no problem and help change it from the inside out. The debate is not to be a forceful one but one more of friendly questions and a purely Constitutional and Declaration of Independence approach. That means you had to have read those. With that approach you can reprogram them with ease.

Yesterday at the district convention, I stood up against a platform plank that was being amended. The three people who spoke for it included one of our state senators, the chair of the convention, and an elderly lady. They all gave very well prepared speeches in favor of it. It was essentially a support for funding research and development in aging and chronic disease.

First, I maintained my credibility as a Republican up until that point(they do not need me overly zealous for Ron Paul to know that I support the Constitution and Declaration of Independence).

Second, I addressed the issue in their language:
"First, I want to commend the intent of this plank. Aging and chronic disease are a serious problem in our state and society. However, I disagree with the approach. There are always two ways in which a problem can be addressed. One way is the socialist way which involves more taxation and regulations. Well we know that hasn't worked and will continue to fail. The other way is the Republican approach, the conservative approach, and that is to remove the legislation and taxation barriers that prevent the free market from solving these problems. I do commend the intent of this plank, and commend those who have stood up in favor of it, but I cannot support it because of the approach it takes in dealing with this problem is a downward approach and will not achieve the results we desire."

By using their words and making this a clear affront to republicanism/conservatism I was able to sway the majority to vote it down(this was with about 20 Ron Paul people and 300 non-Ron Paul supporters). Conversely, I made the chair and our senator look like socialists. =D

Also, this is the same approach I took while on the district platform committee that morning in helping them to decide with me against that plank.

Moral of the story, if you go in there unaware of the words and actions that will turn them off to you, you will more then likely blunder and create an awkward situation.

But if you understand the language and approach that they are programmed to that they are accustomed to, then you'll have no problem making your way up the ranks and having an enormous influence.

To learn the way they think, first start with the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. Then listen to Rush, Hannity, Fox News, Bill O'Reilly. You don't have to like them or everything they say, but just listen to the words they use. Observe how they never approach things with an emotional viewpoint but instead use a logical(or somewhat seemingly logical) approach. Go to some retirement homes and just listen to people. Also, stay level headed and always be the person to bring clarity to a subject. Always be very friendly with people and meet as many as you can. Shake hands with many of them and introduce yourself. Chit chat with them and talk about the price of gas and politics. But do more listening and agreeing with and you will learn a whole lot about how they stand. Talk about issues instead of candidates.

Work smarter, not harder.

You are on point with this. I bet you didn't even have to mention Ron Paul's name either.

If only all our people thought this way, we could change things unopposed! This post must definately be made into it's own thread and stickied! Nice work.